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nordveignordveig Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 146 Arc User
Hi,

I don't know whats going on but its getting to the point were almost every match I'm in has somebody going afk. It's really annoying because it looks like most of the time we would have won the match. I'm not even sure if anything can be done about it, but it's really irritating.

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  • andikttnandikttn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 52 Arc User
    I'm extremely guilty of doing this. I go AFK if teammates are trash talking, or if they can't stay alive more than a hit or two. xD
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  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    Maybe people who just want the Rhix Daily AD and do not want to fight.

    that is why that quest should be removed or reworked
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  • greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    burkaanc wrote: »
    Maybe people who just want the Rhix Daily AD and do not want to fight.

    that is why that quest should be removed or reworked

    You are just unlucky to have that much of a problem. I only see afk people once the match is over and we all know we cant win (which is fine to me). I dont see this problem in the light you are painting this picture.
  • gromm1tgromm1t Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited July 2015
    Well, Gauntgrym -matches are OK, time is short to queue and match not take ages. Leaving match happens and is tolerated.

    Domination -match, queue + match normally takes hour or you get roflstomped, so there is no meaning to play them any more, "win or lose" -situation... is it worth for 1hour(for me it is not so I do GG for fun)?

    REmoving -quest as DOM, well I think there is better way to kill players interest to dominantion and pvp.

    Reworking queue -system and rewards will make difference also fixing attitude against newcomers helps too, ;) .

    ps. Domination/PvP -problem is that there is not enough players for them...
  • hoofithoofit Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 122 Arc User
    How about a time limit on the platform that when its reached all players are "randomly" teleported to the ground for combat unless they all hit a surrender button that ends the match but all must press it. This would save time and get those pesky afkers to do something :P
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    gromm1t wrote: »
    Well, Gauntgrym -matches are OK, time is short to queue and match not take ages. Leaving match happens and is tolerated.

    Domination -match, queue + match normally takes hour or you get roflstomped, so there is no meaning to play them any more, "win or lose" -situation... is it worth for 1 hour(for me it is not so I do GG for fun)?

    Removing -quest as DOM, well I think there is better way to kill players interest to domination and pvp.

    Reworking queue -system and rewards will make difference also fixing attitude against newcomers helps too, ;) .

    ps. Domination/PvP -problem is that there is not enough players for them...

    Last night I queued for 8 matches in GG. Before each of those matches I waited a minimum of 20 minutes and a maximum of 45. Once I got there I lost each and every match. Each of those matches took 20 to 25 minutes. Each of those contained at least 2 premades. Not one of those matches had people going AFK... though I have experienced a HAMSTER ton of quitters.

    I used GG to get the gear for my TR and my GF.

    It is not the same experience NOW. Now... since people have abandoned Dom due to the incredibly long queue times and extreme matches... over an hour or under 5 minutes in just game time. Now PvP guilds are using it instead of Dom.

    The solution that a few of us have come up with is the OfficialPuGPvP channel... as of now we have 15 members (in only 3 days time). It was created to alleviate the painful process of learning how to PvP, getting gear and balancing matches. Send me a PM if you anyone interested
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  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    Join that new PUG channel and queue as 5man premade.
  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    quspiv wrote: »
    Join that new PUG channel and queue as 5man premade.

    Thanks for the PuG Plug... though I am not sure if you are serious. Any press is good press.
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  • greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    Again? When will it stop?

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  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    It will stop when the BS stops. A large % of the game does not come to the forum... so they do not know that we have been posting this for weeks.
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  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    Again? When will it stop?

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    When folks stop AFKing

    It is rude

    It is not that hard to play

    People win, People lose

    AFK is a statement on the AFKer

    I understand when the score hits 900+ for Domination but before that... go out and try

    Urlord

  • dragoness10dragoness10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 780 Arc User
    nordveig wrote: »
    Hi,

    I don't know whats going on but its getting to the point were almost every match I'm in has somebody going afk. It's really annoying because it looks like most of the time we would have won the match. I'm not even sure if anything can be done about it, but it's really irritating.

    Please keep the pee out of PvE and PvP. Use the bathroom beforehand, not AFK.


    (Really there's not much else to say on this subject. It is a dead horse argument now.)
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  • greenkrickettgreenkrickett Member Posts: 85 Arc User
    urlord283 wrote: »
    Again? When will it stop?

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    When folks stop AFKing

    It is rude

    It is not that hard to play

    People win, People lose

    AFK is a statement on the AFKer

    I understand when the score hits 900+ for Domination but before that... go out and try

    Urlord

    The only way to fix this problem is to remove the AD daily quest for pvp. Many pve players who could CARE LESS about pvping want the easy AD. They don't have ANY desire to pvp but they do want that AD and so they go afk cause it is easier to stomach then being someones bi*tch...

    You see this is a pve vs pvp issue as most people who pvp and like to pvp never go afk unless the other teams just rolls them (which I will even go afk if there is no way to win)..

    However you take that AD out of pvp, pvp ques will go sky high at least now they are tolerable, you make sure the pve fanbase don't pvp and you will be waiting for 30+ minutes to do 1 pvp match.
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    No it is not the only way

    Set a timer

    after 1or 2 min afk auto kick

    Then they get nothing

    Urlord
  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    I never go "afk" in a pvp match, but I WILL stop fighting once it's clear the match is a rotflstomp. I don't see any reason to try and compete when it's 800 - 20. Better off letting the match die quickly and requeue. But I don't quit (not on purpose anyway) and I always give it my best until it's clear my best isn't good enough. I do get very frustrated when the others on my team don't do the same.

    Again, my suggestion is to give awards based on the MEDIAN score, not the best score. Require matches to be competitive or else no one gets anything at all. If your team wins by more than 50%, none of the stats you earned count, for example, because the match wasn't competitive. Only competitive matches earn anyone any rewards (dailies included).
  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    urlord283 wrote: »
    No it is not the only way

    Set a timer

    after 1or 2 min afk auto kick

    Then they get nothing

    Urlord

    This wont do a thing, bc they get kicked after some time AFK, as it is. They are not AFK as in 'away from the keyboard', but just doing something else and not fighting.

    We would need:

    1. Better matchmaking (not happening with the low number of players)
    2. Seperated ques for PuG and premade (not likely).
    3. A reasonable way for low IL players to get a fighting chance against BIS ppl, like 3k+ IL (not likely).
    4. A kick from the base after 1 min or a surrender option (not likely).

    I once had a AFK GWF in my team, spending his time insulting our teammates and me. The omly time I applauded the abuse of the kick bug.

    If the game is lost, I write 'GG' and stop fighting. Most of the times fighting 3k+ IL semi-/premades with 1.xk IL players without PvP gear. I sometimes wonder if they get the irony, when they run with 4 ppl to the home node and tell someone who farmed full PvP gear with their PvE low IL chars 'to put in some effort' or complain with 1k PvE chars about 'overgeared PTW 2k+ players'.

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  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    My point is, there are ways.

    My suggestion may be simplistic but something should be done.

    A agree with your first two points... not sure about the others

    Still I believe the first 2 will make a big diff

    In the end it is about people

    There is no reason to stand around unless all or most agree it is the right thing to do





  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    I would much rather have players stand at the campfire than to have players use exploits to get what they want. I seek to ban every exploiter that I witness.
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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    drkbodhi wrote: »
    I would much rather have players stand at the campfire than to have players use exploits to get what they want. I seek to ban every exploiter that I witness.

    Good luck with that. YOU cant ban a fleck of dust. PW does not like ppl to discuss their moderating decisions, but lets say it that way.

    I have been insulted by players in a way, that they flagged my ticket bc of the quoted language. I have asked bug users to stop it, warned them reported them, reported bots etc. Guess what happened.

    I formed hundreds of dwarf king GREED runs. I searched asking for GREED run. I told ppl at the beginning of the run, that it is a greed run. Once or twice a week we had a joker who needed on bossloot and I kicked him. I was reported dozends of times. They never even asked me to proof, that greed run was aggreed upon.

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  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    if its a greed run, then why not just all roll on need to avoid ppl from being dumb?
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  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    icyphish wrote: »
    if its a greed run, then why not just all roll on need to avoid ppl from being dumb?

    DK was the GG T2 dungeon dropping random T2 gear. There were 2 sets in high demand, selling for up to 1.5 million AD for some pices, avatar of war and high vizir. Add HR royal guard for a few month.

    For some modules you needed a 'runner' for speedruns, TR or GWF. GF and DC, depending on the module CW or GWF stacking. If all roll 'need' TR, DC and GF were screwed with their armor selling for 100k AD, the (compared to other classes) useless HR had a chance for a jackpot and the class 'OP' in the module (GWF or CW) would be screwed compared to the other due to stacking.

    Everyone contributed so everyone should have an equal chance to get the big ticket items.

    BTW this were speedruns with near BIS players. Everybody had full sets, nobody needed their class set, exept to sell it for AD in the AH.

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  • subnoctesubnocte Member Posts: 341 Arc User
    It's a symptom of serious problems with how PvP works in the game. There's no point in blaming the people who do it, as they wouldn't do it if the issues were sorted out.

    Better balance, better matching, etc. and the problem would go away.
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    subnocte wrote: »
    It's a symptom of serious problems with how PvP works in the game. There's no point in blaming the people who do it, as they wouldn't do it if the issues were sorted out.

    Better balance, better matching, etc. and the problem would go away.

    Sure there is

    If you know it is wrong you should not do it.... even if a loop hole allows it

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