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doublea2015doublea2015 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
Yes why is it I am finishing spinward rise before hitting lvl 70, this shows me immediately XP is unbalanced as far as leveling up requirement is concerned....

and on that note I made a recent post about XP and it was removed........... so im asking nicely again please fix this....

iv worked customer service for many many years and have certifications on computer techknowledgy and im saying aloud there is a problem here.........

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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    Im in agreement x 1000, but what can you do, they decided to monetize the most simple thing in the game. Leveling is now a pita. IVE never, NEVER played a MMO that all the quests you did from the new area wouldnt get you the new level end... not one modern western type since eq 1 that is.. and levels in that game worked a little differently. Dont anyone here bring up some obscure Korean game, we just dont care, not one iota.

    Which we argue is superbly shortsighted, considering those who level alts up, usually spend more in games.

    Will they change it? nope, you know they wont. Why? because a hundred or two hundred (or the top 1% of the gaming crowd) will spend money to level.

    There simply was no valid reason to change it, other then for them to make money off leveling, which again.. I point to player-base arguments, if we dont feel like we can level alts, forget about us buying companions, bags, or other specialty items for our alts.

    The best we can do is keep blasting away at this change and putting our opinions on review sites, most of them show this game as a nosedive with scores that started in the 70's range, down to the 30's range on user reviews. A lot of that has to do with just how poor and broken mod 6 was.

    If we can warn 1-2 people to not join, we are at least doing our part for the mmo world.

  • drkbodhidrkbodhi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,378 Arc User
    From what I have gathered... despite having champions for this cause in the company... they will not budge on the XP or the HP increases.​​
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,052 Arc User
    The Devs just expect you to buy
    + XP boosters
    + Inscribed Garments
    + Rank 10+ Azure Enchantments
    to play.
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    with double exp and my 40% boost from azures (I was even carrying a lvl 60 lathandar for my pally so i can slot exp in it!) Ive done 2 boons in dread ring, started sharandar and got my first viligance quest under way.. this has gotten me to lvl 62.. barely. Thats about ten hours of game play give or take. Its just plain boring. (includes doing half of whispering at 60 as well!)


    There is too much gating atm.

    AD gating for gmops and rp.
    RP gating in terms of not getting from playing the game.
    EXP gating in terms of lvl 60-70.. and overflow exp.

    ALL of this sums up our frustrating experience with the game = no alts are playable.





  • sabre10sabre10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    drkbodhi wrote: »
    From what I have gathered... despite having champions for this cause in the company... they will not budge on the XP or the HP increases.​​

    If that's truly the case, then there is no hope for them.
    Being blinkered in their perception is stopping them from seeing the near overwhelming opinion from the player base
    that the XP changes are damaging the games population. Not the population that is leaving, but those who would come in to replace them.
    New players are reaching the low 60's and just saying "no tnx!"

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  • cheyennemountaincheyennemountain Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    drkbodhi wrote: »
    From what I have gathered... despite having champions for this cause in the company... they will not budge on the XP or the HP increases.​​

    No one is asking for level 60 to 70 on a silver plater. Players are just asking to not flagellate their way to the games end content.
    Punishing players that could be spending money later on is not a good business model.
    I'm pretty sure that Stockholm syndrome doesn't translate well to MMOs :smile:

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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,052 Arc User
    edited August 2015
    Perhaps they should take some time to learn from Trion Worlds with Rift and the
    "Planar Attunement"
    system. They should take a look at it, and then come up with something similar enjoyable here...
    I do believe in killing the messenger...
    Want to know why?
    Because it sends a message!
  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    Blame management.
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  • temjiutemjiu Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    Blame management.

    'tis usually the case. in spite of the flame going against Dev's, it's usually mgmnt that makes the decisions. And not immediate mgmnt...usually someone 3-4 tiers above the Dev's that don't even play the game...they sit in shareholders meetings and look at graphs and "metrics" that were put together by mgmnt that got the data from the tier of mgmnt under them...who got the info for the data from the Devs, who heard about it secondhand from the customer service reps.

    Not that all companies do this, but the model is common enough that it's a rare company that doesn't do this. and the changes I've seen here make me think that this company isn't far off that.

    It's funny...in many of the MMO's I play, when people say things feel like a "grind", usually it's a combination of 2 things: 1), it simply takes too long, and 2) it's not interesting enough.

    Like right now...the level curve for pre-60 is too fast (this is outside of the double exp week we currently have....I'm not even leveling my toons atm cause I'm outsripping interesting content too fast). but early on in the game, it was a pretty nice balance actually. if you did all the quests in the region, and a few dailies, you could keep up with the level curve. it wasn't too fast, it wasn't too slow, it never felt like a grind.

    That's due to those 2 things being in place: decent curve, and interesting content. they did neither with Elemental Mistakes. This is why people are leaving in droves. And it's not just the 60-70 curve, it's the post grind. it would be one thing TOTALLY if you simply got a point each time you leveled. or every 2 levels as an example. people would most likely tolerate that. sure its 2 long levels...but you know it's going to happen.

    The RNG kills it...literally. people who have bad luck with rolls in general (I am one of those...I simply get bad rolls, I never go to casinos for this reason), I dread the grind post 70...I would rather get a guaranteed skill point every 2-3 levels then what it is now. ESPECIALLY if they base harder content on players having those 4th points...that goes right back to bad design, and lack of efficient cohesiveness in the game.
  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    Those of us who had a truckload of extra points from before EE launched are in a wildly better position than everyone else, yeah.
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  • theycallmetomutheycallmetomu Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,861 Arc User
    I kind of want to keep the XP to get to level 70 the same-

    -BUT change the Elemental Evil zones up; reduce the number of Vigilance Quests you have to take, make it so water is level 61, earth 62, fire 63, and air 64. Sharandar would be changed to level 65 zone, dread ring level 66, IWD level 67. Tyranny of Dragons level 68+

    It's okay to have things take a decent amount of time, but only if there's content for it. And for a lot of people, IWD and up is just a brutal place that will smash you dead.
  • linaduinlinaduin Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    I kind of want to keep the XP to get to level 70 the same-

    -BUT change the Elemental Evil zones up; reduce the number of Vigilance Quests you have to take, make it so water is level 61, earth 62, fire 63, and air 64. Sharandar would be changed to level 65 zone, dread ring level 66, IWD level 67. Tyranny of Dragons level 68+

    It's okay to have things take a decent amount of time, but only if there's content for it. And for a lot of people, IWD and up is just a brutal place that will smash you dead.

    +1. This would have worked.
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