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Dragonflight armor, Costs is to much protector seals
doublea2015
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yes I must say 600 protector seals is costly after having to donate a ton of stuff to reach guild hall rank 8 then market place tier 4, I must protest this
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The whole set requires 1800 protector seals, 36000 guild marks, 108 dragon fangs.
1800 protector seals, as mentioned earlier, can be easily farmed in 36 days.
108 dragon fangs is either 108 days, if you do the daily quest only, or 36 days if you open the lockboxes too, which requires 36 lockbox keys, which is 4050 zen, or faster if you're willing to buy even more zen.
And the biggest problem is the guild marks. If you have a guild with 150 characters and everyone wants the new set, that's 5.4m marks, or 5.4m items donated, which is probably more than a maxed out stronghold requires. And what happens when you max out your stronghold and you coffer fills up? You have no way to spend resources, since you've already maxed out everything, so nobody will be able to donate resources, so no more guild marks for anyone.
The requirements needs to be lowered, and someone needs to do the math and set the new requirements to a level where people in large guilds will not run into the problem described above.
So atm, we have 2 much bigger problems than the amount of protector seals required:
1. People in large guilds won't be able to meet the guild marks requirements;
2. People in small guilds and those who don't want to buy zen, will be farming dragons even in mod 10, by which time the current sets won't even be BiS anymore. Best case scenario is they'll get enough dragon fangs by the time mod 8 launches.
Compared to the other two requirements it's easy. SH dragons are a lot harder than WoD dragons and getting enough guild marks will be pretty much impossible for most people.
Just to give you an idea what those 36k guild marks means. 36k guild marks = 36m AD, or 36k Influence/Research/etc (you get at most 15/HE, so that's at least 2400 HEs), or 36k Gold, or ~364 stacks of rank 4s, or ~182 stacks of rank 5s, or 36k rank 1 profession persons, or 1285 rank 3 green profession persons, i think you get the idea.
Afaik, the PvP armor requires donations too, probably the same amount and you need currencies from both domination and stronghold pvp. So i don't think that's going to be easier to get.
In STO, where they seem to be copying from on this, they implemented repeatable tasks at the end so that maxed guilds could still donate. I think it took them a while to come to the conclusion that this was needed, and I'm hoping NW doesn't take as long. Prior to the repeatable tasks, people just started sub-guilds to run the tasks and gain marks, and shifted players around. They probably still did that afterwards a but to, but it was less needed.
Nutshell: Make sure there is always a way to get marks, even if the SH is maxed.
Killing more than 2 dragons is being rewarded with the fangs.
But there is still the problem with the guild marks as mentioned be4, that some guilds will at some points run into a "you cant donate any further because its all full " problem.
Maybe you guys can make an option so salvage already donated materials (sthm like using the glory or whatever is being donated most) to bring a guild wide bonus exp buff.
if it will be like in sto there will be new buildings with each new update so it should be easy to get marks ,marks price is so high to motivate ppl to donate stuff to stronghold if price would be lower we would have huge lack of ppl willing to donate