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Guess what, everyone?

flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
edited May 2015 in Champions Online Discussion
We're moving!
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/champions-online/news/detail/9196863-announcement%3A-game-wide-forum-migration
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,811 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Oy, this always goes well...
    'Dec out

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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I think I'm gonna vomit. Why are they changing our end game?
  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 2,291 Perfect World Employee
    edited April 2015
    crypticbuxom wrote: »
    I think I'm gonna vomit. Why are they changing our end game?

    A large part of it is that it gives us new shineys that we can set up for you guys, but another part of it is that it's going to majorly help long-term stability. The current vBulletin forums are extreme spaghetti code, and migrating to a clean forum setup is going to be much easier to work with.
  • maleb666maleb666 Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    TT, I has a question:

    What's gonna happen with our custom Forum titles?? Are they gonna follow us, or we're going to lose that?
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  • baelogventurebaelogventure Posts: 520 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Welp, this should be interesting.
  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 2,291 Perfect World Employee
    edited April 2015
    maleb666 wrote: »
    TT, I has a question:

    What's gonna happen with our custom Forum titles?? Are they gonna follow us, or we're going to lose that?

    My understanding is that they won't follow, unfortunately. I'm not certain whether we'll be able to manually set titles on the new framework -- I haven't gotten to poke around in Vanilla's innards just yet.
  • dr490nbr347hidr490nbr347hi Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    ..Remember the last time we changed forums?

    I'm not going to enjoy this.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,746 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    trailturtle wrote: »
    A large part of it is that it gives us new shineys that we can set up for you guys, but another part of it is that it's going to majorly help long-term stability. The current vBulletin forums are extreme spaghetti code, and migrating to a clean forum setup is going to be much easier to work with.

    as long as we can still post pictures, STO can't post pictures on theirs.

    we need pictures here.
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  • maleb666maleb666 Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    trailturtle wrote: »
    My understanding is that they won't follow, unfortunately. I'm not certain whether we'll be able to manually set titles on the new framework -- I haven't gotten to poke around in Vanilla's innards just yet.

    Poke, man... POKE!! For crying out loud!! Go poke that!! We want our titles!! :tongue:
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    trailturtle wrote: »
    A large part of it is that it gives us new shineys that we can set up for you guys, but another part of it is that it's going to majorly help long-term stability. The current vBulletin forums are extreme spaghetti code, and migrating to a clean forum setup is going to be much easier to work with.

    Forums is ironically end game for some players. I was joking about the forum relocation.
  • deadman20deadman20 Posts: 1,533 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    trailturtle wrote: »
    A large part of it is that it gives us new shineys that we can set up for you guys, but another part of it is that it's going to majorly help long-term stability. The current vBulletin forums are extreme spaghetti code, and migrating to a clean forum setup is going to be much easier to work with.

    What kind of new shiny stuffs?

    Will all of the posts floating about currently end up being unable to be edited due to archiving?

    Will we get new titles?

    I'd like to know all the changes that will be happening as a result of the move. :tongue:
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,334 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    All hands, brace for impact! Damage-control teams on standby!

    On the plus side, according to the blog post we'll be able to have .gifs for avatars...
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  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I want to say a lot.....

    My forum title was pretty much bought. This is a little frustrating since this is pretty much all I got from donating to the Extra-Life. Don't have anything to show for it... Even though I was promised signed art, action-figure, and a forum title.
    trailturtle wrote: »
    My understanding is that they won't follow, unfortunately. I'm not certain whether we'll be able to manually set titles on the new framework -- I haven't gotten to poke around in Vanilla's innards just yet.
  • serpinecohserpinecoh Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    ealford1985 wrote: »
    This is a little frustrating since this is pretty much all I got from donating to the Extra-Life. Don't have anything to show for it... Even though I was promised signed art, action-figure, and a forum title.

    Same situation and viewpoint. The lack of the signed art has been increasingly annoying as that doesn't require game development resources, just somebody to do the job that was promised. I really don't understand how difficult it is to generate a few prints and sign them considering the relatively small number of people likely slated to get one.

    If the forum title is indeed lost, I would like to request consideration be made to provide it as an available in game title to those that loose it.
  • kaiserin#0958 kaiserin
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    edited April 2015
    Are posts going to be moved over? Guess I should back up stuff to be safe...
  • ashensnowashensnow Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Looks like improvements. Thank you for that.

    Not too worried about it myself as I don't use the Vanguard title, but wasn't it advertised as included with of the purchase of an LTS ?
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  • serpinecohserpinecoh Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    ashensnow wrote: »
    Not too worried about it myself as I don't use the Vanguard title, but wasn't it advertised as included with of the purchase of an LTS ?

    Forum titles are also one of the advertised perks of the various larger Neverwinter bundles. I suspect people who dropped as much as $200 on those packs will express some level of displeasure if they are lost.
  • beleaua78beleaua78 Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hey,hey what the fudge man? This isn't just a matter of conveniance or something....these forums are like the place of birth of what is today's Champions Online's current community.This is our home,you can't just come and kick us out.The people on these forums share some really nice relations and I'm pretty sure 90% don't give a donger about your other games.Back off PWI,stop messing up everything you touch for once!!
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  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,002 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    The previous forum migration was met with valid backlash due to shutting down of the old Cryptic accounts and being forced to create and use PWE ones. The problem for a good number of forumers was that if someone with an existing PWE account used the same forum name as theirs, they couldn't use it.

    This time around I don't really see anything to warrant doom and gloom. Overall the new forums look to be an improvement. I guess the different color scheme and layout taking time to get used to would be the one minor annoyance. I mean people were flipping out when the current forum's color scheme was changed to grey and black but people got over it in a matter of days.
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  • championshewolfchampionshewolf Posts: 4,376 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Oh goodie, vanilla forums. Those things that we see over at Marvel and ESO being used.

    Well guess I will say it since I have experience with them, at the very least do not turn on the disagree, awesome, agree, informative and LOL buttons. I don't think we need to give the trolls anymore reason to troll on the forums.
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  • themightyzeniththemightyzenith Posts: 4,612 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    championshewolf wrote: »
    ... at the very least do not turn on the disagree, awesome, agree, informative and LOL buttons. I don't think we need to give the trolls anymore reason to troll on the forums.

    I strongly agree with this. We don't need this kind of feedback. It means nothing and only causes problems.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,746 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jonsills wrote: »
    All hands, brace for impact! Damage-control teams on standby!

    On the plus side, according to the blog post we'll be able to have .gifs for avatars...

    now there's a horrible thought, considering some of the things in Ban the previous poster thread.
    we also lost
    our link to ingame mail from the forums. I still have 150 mail RP messages to type from (out of the 500 messages available)screenshots.

    we lost the link to our character lists.
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  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,556 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Are you going to give us the ability to turn off animated GIFs for avatars at our end? Those are extremely annoying and unnecessary.
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    Are you going to give us the ability to turn off animated GIFs for avatars at our end? Those are extremely annoying and unnecessary.

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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,811 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    championshewolf is right there:

    Oh goodie, vanilla forums. Those things that we see over at Marvel and ESO being used.

    Well guess I will say it since I have experience with them, at the very least do not turn on the disagree, awesome, agree, informative and LOL buttons. I don't think we need to give the trolls anymore reason to troll on the forums.

    I'll also agree, as well as any kind of rankings, rep or post count. Just say no to "Added Drama" buttons.
    'Dec out

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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,898 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    New forums will Allows AV's and siggys with same log in. Dont see any issues with this change.
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    edited April 2015
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  • sistersiliconsistersilicon Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    A website is playing 52-Pickup with it's structure and layout, so it's time for a friendly reminder:

    Holding Shift as you refresh the page (either the toolbar button or the Ctrl/Cmd-R keyboard shortcut) ignores your local cache and re-gets everything from the server. That should flush out any old javascripts and stylesheets that might be corrupting the page.
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  • revanantmoriturirevanantmorituri Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    So, individual identity per forum gets flushed down the toilet, then. The avatar and .sig I have here on the CO forum has absolutely no bearing with regards to my identity over on the STO forums. My characters are different, my playstyle is different, I may as well be a different person as far as anyone reading is concerned.

    At this point, I really wonder if it would be that hard to resurrect the code used by 2002 era gaming forums, like Squaresoft used before the Square-Enix merger. It seemed to work so much better, and had to have been run on less capable hardware.
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  • stergasterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    sistersilicon wrote: »
    A website is playing 52-Pickup with it's structure and layout, so it's time for a friendly reminder:

    Holding Shift as you refresh the page (either the toolbar button or the Ctrl/Cmd-R keyboard shortcut) ignores your local cache and re-gets everything from the server. That should flush out any old javascripts and stylesheets that might be corrupting the page.

    Maybe I'm too picky, but I expect basic stuff, like clicking links, to work right the first time. Just refreshing magically logs me in. Even though I am logged in and the site knows I'm logged in. Dumping my cache doesn't matter. Refreshing every page all the time is irritating.
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  • draogndraogn Posts: 1,269 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I've seen websites where every game is clustered onto the same board. They are absolutely terrible, not only do you have trolls from other games but they are dysfunctional and generally have a horrible layout.

    Will these new forums at least use code from this century?
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,334 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    draogn wrote: »
    Will these new forums at least use code from this century?
    What, thirty-year-old code from the days of BBSes and 300-baud acoustic modems isn't good enough for you, Mister Fancy-Pants? :biggrin:
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,811 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    This that we're using was obsolete BEFORE they installed it. :tongue:
    'Dec out

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  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,366 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    bigger question is, will old posts be migrated?
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    They probably end up as 'Archieved Posts', since the all the forums merge under one place....
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    UPDATE!

    http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/champions-online/news/detail/9222813-announcement%3A-portal-wide-migration-changes

    They found problems.
    We're safe, for a while.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,746 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    at the high bar of quality we hold ourselves to

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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Well they do overestimate themselves.
  • valoreahvaloreah Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    trailturtle wrote: »
    My understanding is that they won't follow, unfortunately. I'm not certain whether we'll be able to manually set titles on the new framework -- I haven't gotten to poke around in Vanilla's innards just yet.

    So you're moving to a new system before you've had a chance to really see what's under the hood? Something isn't right there....
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  • decorumfriendsdecorumfriends Posts: 2,811 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I'm pretty sure Perfect World didn't consult him on this decision. Fait accompli.
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  • klittyklitty Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Did I just hear new shinies??

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  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,522 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    valoreah wrote: »
    So you're moving to a new system before you've had a chance to really see what's under the hood? Something isn't right there....

    I highly doubt the move is something that TT actually had a say in, but I could be wrong.
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    edited May 2015
    *Reads Title, Replies* Chicken Butt. o.3.o
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  • tditstdits Posts: 561 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    chaelk wrote: »
    as long as we can still post pictures, STO can't post pictures on theirs.

    we need pictures here.

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  • trailturtletrailturtle Posts: 2,291 Perfect World Employee
    edited May 2015
    bwdares wrote: »
    I highly doubt the move is something that TT actually had a say in, but I could be wrong.

    I wasn't involved in the decision-making process, but that doesn't mean I couldn't influence it if I really wanted to/felt the need to. As it stands, other people are taking point on it, so I'm not terribly hands-on with this.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,746 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    as long as we can post pictures
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