Sure, I could see either of them running an agility course.
Fighting on a battlefield? I'd send them home before the fighting starts.
Okay, this discussion is taking a ridiculous route.
Why are we confusing what the two women, as actual human beings, look capable of doing in a real life scenario with what the character is being portrayed as in the comics and the movie itself?
Wonder Woman has inherent superhuman strength and agility. The heck does her physique matter when it isn't really her muscles that determine how powerful she is?
Okay, this discussion is taking a ridiculous route.
Why are we confusing what the two women, as actual human beings, look capable of doing in a real life scenario with what the character is being portrayed as in the comics and the movie itself?
Wonder Woman has inherent superhuman strength and agility. The heck does her physique matter when it isn't really her muscles that determine how powerful she is?
Very good point. Although, how shes portrayed and drawn in comics... i would expect her to have "some kind of muscle" definition.
But yes. Your point is valid. Linda Carter wasn't all that buffed out either. She made it work.
I doubt if physical build was the most important factor in casting.
In the end, an actress with exact physical likeness but acting skills on pair with Arnold Schwarzenegger would not be the best choice.
I don't see very much difference at all in muscle tone and definition between those two women. I think maybe the white backlighting is playing tricks on peoples' eyes. While I personally would have preferred a beefier Wonder Woman (and with a fuller head of hair), these two women are not so different in the category of being too birdy or beefy enough. Also, it's worth noting that the girl on the right, Kacy, is 5 feet tall, compared to Gal's 5'9". They already put Gal in high heels to make her appear taller; I don't think we need to dig out the goth Frankenstein boots to make Kacy tall enough to be Wonder Woman.
You'd have to be cross-eyed and nearsighted to be miss the muscle definition of the woman on the right in comparison to the apparent lack of any on Gal Gadot.
In any case, i hope she can act a bit. She wouldn't be my first choice based on her body... or my 20th. But, if she can act a bit, it might not matter.
Looking at her legs... makes me want to give a sandwich or two or three.
"See... this is why you'll never make it in casting. The question you should be asking is, 'Is she hot?'. The first yes we get, gets the role. Nobody cares if she matches the character or if she can act. She's a woman, remember?"
You'd have to be cross-eyed and nearsighted to be miss the muscle definition of the woman on the right in comparison to the apparent lack of any on Gal Gadot.
I'll take Hyperventilating Overstatements for 300.
The back light is probably making it hard for people to see that, yes, the martial artist on the right has muscle definition and yes, she would probably kick your ****.
I don't think it's the lighting. I think it's the fact that there's very little discernible difference between the two.
I get that several people in this thread have set themselves to Auto-hate for anything related to this movie, but seriously. It's starting to affect your rational judgment on pretty unrelated things.
Auto-hate has nothing to do with it. I like the look of Gadot in the costume and hope sincerely that she and Cavill can compensate for Affleck's bad acting. That still doesn't change that the girl on the right in the comparison image has actual muscle definition and you'd have to have terribly bad eyesight to miss that.
I don't think it's the lighting. I think it's the fact that there's very little discernible difference between the two.
I get that several people in this thread have set themselves to Auto-hate for anything related to this movie, but seriously. It's starting to affect your rational judgment on pretty unrelated things.
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Very little discernible difference? Umm, maybe try looking elsewhere besides the chest
Auto-hate has nothing to do with it. I like the look of Gadot in the costume and hope sincerely that she and Cavill can compensate for Affleck's bad acting. That still doesn't change that the girl on the right in the comparison image has actual muscle definition and you'd have to have terribly bad eyesight to miss that.
Yes, they both look good but when you say toned and muscular... left image she looks soft, she looks like if you were able to touch and hold her she would feel snuggly... girl on the right looks like she could actually crack nuts with her biceps and crush heads between her thighs. She looks more solid, and stronger. :biggrin:
Very little discernible difference? Umm, maybe try looking elsewhere besides the chest
I did that. Eventually.
Really though, I still maintain that they aren't that far off. Or, maybe more accurately, that it's just hard to tell how far off they might be.
Kacy has great forearms (American Ninja is like forearm porn), biceps, shoulders. Gal's forearms are covered, and her delts are either concealed by hair or the pose. Her biceps definitely look softer, but not by a huge margin.
Kacy also has great abs, based on other pictures, but Gal's totally covered there as well.
Ninja girl's legs aren't that great, from a musculature standpoint. Really thin and not super-toned. (I've probably perved out enough in writing the rest of this post to skip stating my opinion on them aside from just muscles.) You can mainly see a nice line of definition at the bottom of her quads, right above the knees. Again, Gal has this area covered by her megaboots.
I've got my own doubts about some of the casting, WW included, but we'll just have to see what the final product looks like.
I don't think it's the lighting. I think it's the fact that there's very little discernible difference between the two.
I get that several people in this thread have set themselves to Auto-hate for anything related to this movie, but seriously. It's starting to affect your rational judgment on pretty unrelated things.
I don't care about wonder woman. I care about how warriors are being represented in the media. It's not just women either, wtf was this nonsense:
Put your armor back on Leonitus... oh wait that's right we need people to be splooshing while watching the movie.
Women warriors just happen to be represented more frequently much worse. They wear ridiculous outfits, and are cast by women who look like they've spent their entire life resting in a hot tub full of moisturizing lotion.
For an example of what I think a real warrior woman looks like, just check out my Skyrim character who I have modded to be the pinacle of what a real warrior woman should look like:
Unless you have proof the picture indeed depicts a military person, because it might be someone posing as well. Internet memes are hardly a credible source.
But seriously, you won't go very far in the infantry without being fit because you will have to run, jump and go through exercises in tactical gear. Which is anything but light and comfortable.
And modern uniforms and boots may be made from "breathing" materials and ergonomic, but they are still thick and heavy compared to sportswear.
Strength and stamina are still requirements for modern soldiers. In mechanised troops as well.
Comic books physiology is entirely fictional for both males and females. Perfectly ripped bodies with all muscles visible and nearly no fat usually do not contribute with enough reserves needed for long term stamina needed for warriors.
Our military uses guns, not swords and shields. Miley Cyrus could be an effective soldier in today's wars.
Sure, and yet soldiers today are still being taught close combat skills.
Things that ancient warriors used to learn, like aggression in combat, to show no mercy for the enemy, still apply to soldiers these days even though swords and shields are long obsolete. Soldiers in modern times are still very much warriors like any from those ancient times.
Miley Cyrus wouldn't last a single day in basic training if she lacks the mentality and drive to be a soldier, much less an effective soldier even. Don't make it sound like any random person can walk into boot camp and ace it like it's nothing.
Sure, and yet soldiers today are still being taught close combat skills.
Things that ancient warriors used to learn, like aggression in combat, to show no mercy for the enemy, still apply to soldiers these days even though swords and shields are long obsolete. Soldiers in modern times are still very much warriors like any from those ancient times.
Miley Cyrus wouldn't last a single day in basic training if she lacks the mentality and drive to be a soldier, much less an effective soldier even. Don't make it sound like any random person can walk into boot camp and ace it like it's nothing.
Miley Cyrus also has the luxury of living in a country where the military is all volunteers. Gal Gadot, as an Israeli, does not. I would hope that the IDF's basic training courses were designed with mandatory military service in mind, so it would be better at discerning who belongs on the front lines, and who'd be better off for everybody pushing papers or schlepping boxes in the quartermaster's office.
Aaaanyway, this all boils down to Hollywood's narrow standard of beauty and lack of body diversity. Amazons don't get cast in rom-coms, thus Zack Snyder has to settle for a wiry Wonder Woman.
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Star power notwithstanding; they could have easily filled it in with MMA/WWE peeples; have of them want to movie stars anyway.
Beth Pheonix anyone?
Though I admit...Beth wasn't the greatest of actresses.....
Miley Cyrus also has the luxury of living in a country where the military is all volunteers. Gal Gadot, as an Israeli, does not. I would hope that the IDF's basic training courses were designed with mandatory military service in mind, so it would be better at discerning who belongs on the front lines, and who'd be better off for everybody pushing papers or schlepping boxes in the quartermaster's office.
Exemptions are allowed. There are a number of them actually. The system is designed to create an actual fighting force so that's not the best excuse either.
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Aaaanyway, this all boils down to Hollywood's narrow standard of beauty and lack of body diversity. Amazons don't get cast in rom-coms, thus Zack Snyder has to settle for a wiry Wonder Woman.
Yeah, this is my major sticking point, Hollywood these days seems to think borderline anorexic is "sexy." Sorry, but, no. Muscular and athletic women can be sexy too, and often are.
Yeah, this is my major sticking point, Hollywood these days seems to think borderline anorexic is "sexy." Sorry, but, no. Muscular and athletic women can be sexy too, and often are.
Don't know where you found this pic, Spinny, but all it shows is that fat people can wear costumes. (If you'd like, we can run down all the ways this "uniform" is wrong, starting with the fact that the pattern hasn't been used for over a decade...)
And if you think it doesn't take physical fitness to be a soldier, I recommend you try wearing full combat dress and trotting for several miles while holding an M-16. Be sure to hydrate well both before and after. (According to this report, that's going to be a load of at least 62 pounds, assuming the lightest combat load). There's a reason why so many soldiers are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan with back injuries...
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Foxi believes that if they find a picture on the internet it must be true. If that guy didn't lose weight in basic, he would have easily been 4-F'd out of the army, no ands, ifs, or buts. And if he picked it up after basic, he would have been discharged. My family has been a military family for generations, I didn't serve but I was head strong when I was younger and of course propaganda and pressure got to me when I was young. But when I got to see all the awards and medals my father had earned in his life and how much he loved it, I really wished I would have taken the chance and joined.
And 62 pounds now, hrmm? Hehe, when my dad was slogging through the jungles of Vietnam I believe he had to carry 80+ pounds of gear. The military is always trying to find ways for things to be lighter, but no way in hell would they let a physically unfit person in the military. Why I get a laugh out of many of the fan Star Trek movies when one of the characters could be two people combined. I doubt even Starfleet would be that lax.
I'm not saying it doesn't take physical fitness to be a soldier; hell, it can take physical fitness to be an accountant if you work in a building without an elevator and your office is on the third floor while the meeting room is on the twelth. Sure, you have to walk around a lot and climb hills and stairs, so some cardio is helpful. But holding and pointing a gun doesn't take anywhere near as much effort as fighting with a sword. If people still had to use swords to kill each other, you wouldn't see all these examples of civilian violence that plaster the news (you know the ones I'm talking about).
The fat solider picture was a joke, but honestly, take two fat guys, give one a sub-machine gun, and give the other a sword and shield. Give them five minutes on a battle field where physically fit people are wielding similar weapons. Now do the same thing with some whimpy kid with stick arms. Yeah, their first few shots might be a bit off when the recoil surprises them, but the ones with the guns might actually get some kills... the ones with swords? Cut down before they can even get through their first swing.
It's nice that the lady was in the army, but all that means today is having a nice butt. I've known plenty of guys who were in the army... and their appearance makes me think whatever physical fitness she got, she got somewhere other than the military.
Foxi believes that if they find a picture on the internet it must be true.
championshewolf bases most of her arguments on things she imagined. Don't worry puppy, I already know you can't take a joke when someone's disagreeing with you ~.^
Don't know where you found this pic, Spinny, but all it shows is that fat people can wear costumes.
And flimsy looking girls can also wear costumes... that's what this whole thread appears to be about after all, right Jon? Oh wait... did you think the topic had changed and we were arguing about something else now?
championshewolf bases most of her arguments on things she imagined. Don't worry puppy, I already know you can't take a joke when someone's disagreeing with you ~.^
When you make an actual joke then I might consider it funny. But hey, if you think insulting a career people have been injured and lose their lives over is funny, then so be it. Just don't expect people who are or know people in the armed services to take you as being funny ha ha, because you are the furthest from it, especially since you rarely are making a joke.
I'm not saying it doesn't take physical fitness to be a soldier; hell, it can take physical fitness to be an accountant if you work in a building without an elevator and your office is on the third floor while the meeting room is on the twelth. Sure, you have to walk around a lot and climb hills and stairs, so some cardio is helpful. But holding and pointing a gun doesn't take anywhere near as much effort as fighting with a sword. If people still had to use swords to kill each other, you wouldn't see all these examples of civilian violence that plaster the news (you know the ones I'm talking about).
Boy, your ignorance is just...baffling.
True, holding a gun isn't considered as strenuous as handling a sword in terms of the weight factor. Holding a blade made almost entirely of steel is more exhausting than holding a much lighter rifle, especially since the newer ones are made of polycarbonate material. That much is true, but that's really it. You fail to realize that operating a gun, if we're just sticking to assault rifles, has its own stress factors especially during a firefight, both physical and pyschological stresses. It's one thing to go to the range and practice firing at dummy targets, but it's quite another to be firing at someone who's firing back and is as trained as you are. It's quite another to brave incoming fire while rushing from one cover to another, all the while trying to fire back and actually hit someone.
And all this being done while carrying a full battle order that is akin to a suit of armor from ancient times. Nevermind that sometimes a soldier can be designated to carry the additional weight of ammunition for a specific type of weapon that another is using, like a heavy machine gun or mortar, or did you think that other than holding a gun, soldiers these days just fight wearing nothing but fatigues?
The fat solider picture was a joke, but honestly, take two fat guys, give one a sub-machine gun, and give the other a sword and shield. Give them five minutes on a battle field where physically fit people are wielding similar weapons. Now do the same thing with some whimpy kid with stick arms. Yeah, their first few shots might be a bit off when the recoil surprises them, but the ones with the guns might actually get some kills... the ones with swords? Cut down before they can even get through their first swing.
No it wasn't a joke. No one's laughing. All you did was insinuate that any random Tom **** and Harry is able to hack it in the military, where physical and psychological state are not important factors, only because a gun is sooooooo easy to use compared to a sword. You used an extreme example to try to support that notion. It's not funny. All you're doing is trivializing the people and the hardship they have endured when they went through military training, be it from a career choice or conscription, or the soldiers who have actually had first-hand combat experience, especially the ones who have lost their lives doing so.
Once again, with your gun vs. sword comparison and suggesting that all it takes is aiming a gun and pulling the trigger that anyone can do, look above for the proper context as to the war environments and conditions the guns are being used in.
It's nice that the lady was in the army, but all that means today is having a nice butt. I've known plenty of guys who were in the army... and their appearance makes me think whatever physical fitness she got, she got somewhere other than the military.
On the subject of trivializing people who have gone through military training...
When you make an actual joke then I might consider it funny. But hey, if you think insulting a career people have been injured and lose their lives over is funny, then so be it. Just don't expect people who are or know people in the armed services to take you as being funny ha ha, because you are the furthest from it, especially since you rarely are making a joke.
Oh there you go, putting words in peoples' mouths again
No it wasn't a joke. No one's laughing. All you did was insinuate that any random Tom **** and Harry is able to hack it in the military
Hey look, Jenny's doing it too How am I supposed to respond when your entire post is about things you interpreted rather than things I actually said? o3o
On the subject of trivializing people who have gone through military training...
xD wow, if you only knew the guys I was talking about, you would realize you're defending people who totally don't deserve it. Just.... just wow, if only you knew. They're not all heroes, trust me on that.
This up there. This is you in summary, nothing but an assortment of emoticons you always use as a defense when you're being called out for saying ignorant and stupid crap.
When mee stated correctly that a level of fitness is required to be a soldier, you responded by showing an obese person in battle order and replied in way to suggest that it's not true. You have to be deliberately obtuse not to expect that people are going to interpret that as insulting since you made no prior indication that it was meant to come off as a joke. You're at fault for inviting misinterpretation.
In fact this all started because hilariously, you got schooled implying about Gal Gadot not looking like she would last in a battlefield when someone pointed out factually that she's been trained in the IDF. If you knew anything about the IDF, when it comes to judging the calibre of any fighting force out there in the world, the IDF would rank pretty high. What's more asinine is your suggestion that Miley Cyrus is able to pull off the exact same thing with ease. Yeah, okay. Excuse me while I go laugh like a crazed hyena from Lion King again.
I'm not going into that political and moral territory about the people I'm "defending" and I don't care to argue about whether they deserve it or not. I'm not defending them for certain current events going on, I was being general when I was addressing your ignorance about modern day soldiering and wasn't talking about a specific military.
Oh there you go, putting words in peoples' mouths again
Ah yes, the Foxi attempt to twist the topic around when he's losing. It always fascinates me to, watching you pretend to think you are cleverly trolling. Or better yet to try and get in on arguments you don't even read because you infamously always put words in mouths and twist them around. And then tries to blame others for it.
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Okay, this discussion is taking a ridiculous route.
Why are we confusing what the two women, as actual human beings, look capable of doing in a real life scenario with what the character is being portrayed as in the comics and the movie itself?
Wonder Woman has inherent superhuman strength and agility. The heck does her physique matter when it isn't really her muscles that determine how powerful she is?
But yes. Your point is valid. Linda Carter wasn't all that buffed out either. She made it work.
In the end, an actress with exact physical likeness but acting skills on pair with Arnold Schwarzenegger would not be the best choice.
Looking at her legs... makes me want to give a sandwich or two or three.
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Funny because she used to be in the military.
I'll take Hyperventilating Overstatements for 300.
Considering that Gal Gadot's arms look like my skinny arms and the girl on the right looks like she could break my arms, I'd think not.
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I get that several people in this thread have set themselves to Auto-hate for anything related to this movie, but seriously. It's starting to affect your rational judgment on pretty unrelated things.
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Very little discernible difference? Umm, maybe try looking elsewhere besides the chest
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Well, they both do have wonderful... tracts of land.
Yes, they both look good but when you say toned and muscular... left image she looks soft, she looks like if you were able to touch and hold her she would feel snuggly... girl on the right looks like she could actually crack nuts with her biceps and crush heads between her thighs. She looks more solid, and stronger. :biggrin:
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I did that. Eventually.
Really though, I still maintain that they aren't that far off. Or, maybe more accurately, that it's just hard to tell how far off they might be.
Kacy has great forearms (American Ninja is like forearm porn), biceps, shoulders. Gal's forearms are covered, and her delts are either concealed by hair or the pose. Her biceps definitely look softer, but not by a huge margin.
Kacy also has great abs, based on other pictures, but Gal's totally covered there as well.
Ninja girl's legs aren't that great, from a musculature standpoint. Really thin and not super-toned. (I've probably perved out enough in writing the rest of this post to skip stating my opinion on them aside from just muscles.) You can mainly see a nice line of definition at the bottom of her quads, right above the knees. Again, Gal has this area covered by her megaboots.
I've got my own doubts about some of the casting, WW included, but we'll just have to see what the final product looks like.
Our military uses guns, not swords and shields. Miley Cyrus could be an effective soldier in today's wars.
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I don't care about wonder woman. I care about how warriors are being represented in the media. It's not just women either, wtf was this nonsense:
Put your armor back on Leonitus... oh wait that's right we need people to be splooshing while watching the movie.
Women warriors just happen to be represented more frequently much worse. They wear ridiculous outfits, and are cast by women who look like they've spent their entire life resting in a hot tub full of moisturizing lotion.
For an example of what I think a real warrior woman looks like, just check out my Skyrim character who I have modded to be the pinacle of what a real warrior woman should look like:
....okay bad example ^_^;
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But male fitness models with ripped bodies and nearly no fat over muscles aren't realistic warriors as well.
It sure does.
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But seriously, you won't go very far in the infantry without being fit because you will have to run, jump and go through exercises in tactical gear. Which is anything but light and comfortable.
And modern uniforms and boots may be made from "breathing" materials and ergonomic, but they are still thick and heavy compared to sportswear.
Strength and stamina are still requirements for modern soldiers. In mechanised troops as well.
Comic books physiology is entirely fictional for both males and females. Perfectly ripped bodies with all muscles visible and nearly no fat usually do not contribute with enough reserves needed for long term stamina needed for warriors.
Sure, and yet soldiers today are still being taught close combat skills.
Things that ancient warriors used to learn, like aggression in combat, to show no mercy for the enemy, still apply to soldiers these days even though swords and shields are long obsolete. Soldiers in modern times are still very much warriors like any from those ancient times.
Miley Cyrus wouldn't last a single day in basic training if she lacks the mentality and drive to be a soldier, much less an effective soldier even. Don't make it sound like any random person can walk into boot camp and ace it like it's nothing.
(They're waiting as well.)
Miley Cyrus also has the luxury of living in a country where the military is all volunteers. Gal Gadot, as an Israeli, does not. I would hope that the IDF's basic training courses were designed with mandatory military service in mind, so it would be better at discerning who belongs on the front lines, and who'd be better off for everybody pushing papers or schlepping boxes in the quartermaster's office.
Aaaanyway, this all boils down to Hollywood's narrow standard of beauty and lack of body diversity. Amazons don't get cast in rom-coms, thus Zack Snyder has to settle for a wiry Wonder Woman.
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Beth Pheonix anyone?
Though I admit...Beth wasn't the greatest of actresses.....
It's not Jackie Chan...
Exemptions are allowed. There are a number of them actually. The system is designed to create an actual fighting force so that's not the best excuse either.
Yeah, this is my major sticking point, Hollywood these days seems to think borderline anorexic is "sexy." Sorry, but, no. Muscular and athletic women can be sexy too, and often are.
I concur.
And if you think it doesn't take physical fitness to be a soldier, I recommend you try wearing full combat dress and trotting for several miles while holding an M-16. Be sure to hydrate well both before and after. (According to this report, that's going to be a load of at least 62 pounds, assuming the lightest combat load). There's a reason why so many soldiers are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan with back injuries...
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And 62 pounds now, hrmm? Hehe, when my dad was slogging through the jungles of Vietnam I believe he had to carry 80+ pounds of gear. The military is always trying to find ways for things to be lighter, but no way in hell would they let a physically unfit person in the military. Why I get a laugh out of many of the fan Star Trek movies when one of the characters could be two people combined. I doubt even Starfleet would be that lax.
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The fat solider picture was a joke, but honestly, take two fat guys, give one a sub-machine gun, and give the other a sword and shield. Give them five minutes on a battle field where physically fit people are wielding similar weapons. Now do the same thing with some whimpy kid with stick arms. Yeah, their first few shots might be a bit off when the recoil surprises them, but the ones with the guns might actually get some kills... the ones with swords? Cut down before they can even get through their first swing.
It's nice that the lady was in the army, but all that means today is having a nice butt. I've known plenty of guys who were in the army... and their appearance makes me think whatever physical fitness she got, she got somewhere other than the military.
championshewolf bases most of her arguments on things she imagined. Don't worry puppy, I already know you can't take a joke when someone's disagreeing with you ~.^
And flimsy looking girls can also wear costumes... that's what this whole thread appears to be about after all, right Jon? Oh wait... did you think the topic had changed and we were arguing about something else now?
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When you make an actual joke then I might consider it funny. But hey, if you think insulting a career people have been injured and lose their lives over is funny, then so be it. Just don't expect people who are or know people in the armed services to take you as being funny ha ha, because you are the furthest from it, especially since you rarely are making a joke.
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Boy, your ignorance is just...baffling.
True, holding a gun isn't considered as strenuous as handling a sword in terms of the weight factor. Holding a blade made almost entirely of steel is more exhausting than holding a much lighter rifle, especially since the newer ones are made of polycarbonate material. That much is true, but that's really it. You fail to realize that operating a gun, if we're just sticking to assault rifles, has its own stress factors especially during a firefight, both physical and pyschological stresses. It's one thing to go to the range and practice firing at dummy targets, but it's quite another to be firing at someone who's firing back and is as trained as you are. It's quite another to brave incoming fire while rushing from one cover to another, all the while trying to fire back and actually hit someone.
And all this being done while carrying a full battle order that is akin to a suit of armor from ancient times. Nevermind that sometimes a soldier can be designated to carry the additional weight of ammunition for a specific type of weapon that another is using, like a heavy machine gun or mortar, or did you think that other than holding a gun, soldiers these days just fight wearing nothing but fatigues?
No it wasn't a joke. No one's laughing. All you did was insinuate that any random Tom **** and Harry is able to hack it in the military, where physical and psychological state are not important factors, only because a gun is sooooooo easy to use compared to a sword. You used an extreme example to try to support that notion. It's not funny. All you're doing is trivializing the people and the hardship they have endured when they went through military training, be it from a career choice or conscription, or the soldiers who have actually had first-hand combat experience, especially the ones who have lost their lives doing so.
Once again, with your gun vs. sword comparison and suggesting that all it takes is aiming a gun and pulling the trigger that anyone can do, look above for the proper context as to the war environments and conditions the guns are being used in.
On the subject of trivializing people who have gone through military training...
Oh there you go, putting words in peoples' mouths again
Hey look, Jenny's doing it too
xD wow, if you only knew the guys I was talking about, you would realize you're defending people who totally don't deserve it. Just.... just wow, if only you knew. They're not all heroes, trust me on that.
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This up there. This is you in summary, nothing but an assortment of emoticons you always use as a defense when you're being called out for saying ignorant and stupid crap.
When mee stated correctly that a level of fitness is required to be a soldier, you responded by showing an obese person in battle order and replied in way to suggest that it's not true. You have to be deliberately obtuse not to expect that people are going to interpret that as insulting since you made no prior indication that it was meant to come off as a joke. You're at fault for inviting misinterpretation.
In fact this all started because hilariously, you got schooled implying about Gal Gadot not looking like she would last in a battlefield when someone pointed out factually that she's been trained in the IDF. If you knew anything about the IDF, when it comes to judging the calibre of any fighting force out there in the world, the IDF would rank pretty high. What's more asinine is your suggestion that Miley Cyrus is able to pull off the exact same thing with ease. Yeah, okay. Excuse me while I go laugh like a crazed hyena from Lion King again.
I'm not going into that political and moral territory about the people I'm "defending" and I don't care to argue about whether they deserve it or not. I'm not defending them for certain current events going on, I was being general when I was addressing your ignorance about modern day soldiering and wasn't talking about a specific military.
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Ah yes, the Foxi attempt to twist the topic around when he's losing. It always fascinates me to, watching you pretend to think you are cleverly trolling. Or better yet to try and get in on arguments you don't even read because you infamously always put words in mouths and twist them around. And then tries to blame others for it.
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