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knedd
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Okay, so here's what I'd like to see for new content:
Lair type 5-Man's using the existing structures of the game. Take the 'Citizen' missions that already exist (you know, the 'I just saw a bunch of robots enter a warehouse!' missions); add in a supervillain at the end and then make the missions drop as random clues from mobs around the city. Fighting the Purple Gang? Well you just found a clue that Kevin Poe is rummaging through a warehouse with his gang to find... something. Get a team together and go fight him. Different mobs drop different mission clues based on their affiliation. Psi drops stuff for fighting Psimon and Medusa; Viper agents drop clues for fighting Viperia or Viper X. The clues could lead you to almost any zone and should be level appropriate. The missions should be differentiated from Alerts by their rewards and difficulty level as well as the locales and variety of opponents. There are a lot of unused supervillains out there who only show up in a single location in the game. Let's get them back out there and in circulation! Leech is a good example, and so is Talisman....
There has to be a relatively easy way to get more variety of things to do in the game. I can't think of a better way than to use what you already have. Just my two cents.
Lair type 5-Man's using the existing structures of the game. Take the 'Citizen' missions that already exist (you know, the 'I just saw a bunch of robots enter a warehouse!' missions); add in a supervillain at the end and then make the missions drop as random clues from mobs around the city. Fighting the Purple Gang? Well you just found a clue that Kevin Poe is rummaging through a warehouse with his gang to find... something. Get a team together and go fight him. Different mobs drop different mission clues based on their affiliation. Psi drops stuff for fighting Psimon and Medusa; Viper agents drop clues for fighting Viperia or Viper X. The clues could lead you to almost any zone and should be level appropriate. The missions should be differentiated from Alerts by their rewards and difficulty level as well as the locales and variety of opponents. There are a lot of unused supervillains out there who only show up in a single location in the game. Let's get them back out there and in circulation! Leech is a good example, and so is Talisman....
There has to be a relatively easy way to get more variety of things to do in the game. I can't think of a better way than to use what you already have. Just my two cents.
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Same as the 'It Can't Be That Hard' and 'Other Games Did It Before' ways.
And we allready had the 'Get The Clues and Run To The Warehouse' mission chains. Then they moved to the new stuff. But it appears that making new stuff in a computer video game is "easier" than digging up old stuff and try to fiddle with it.
I think i spend whole dollar on that.
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So yes the OP is right in that those old citizens missions could easily be turned into something else. But as we know all of that requires money and man hours, something PWE seems to be carefully rationing at this time.
That doesn't mean the community doesn't provide some good ideas. Here's hoping one of those good suggestions makes it into reality.
Did you know in the lore Kevin Poe is kinda powerful as far as villains in Westside go? He's the son of Sebastian Poe, founder of Mind Inc. and PSI, not to mention he should be difficult for early level heroes.
He is a super powered villain and his thugs have access to high tech weaponry.
Anyway...regardless of villain in the example I think this is a pretty good idea...
If they made more Help a Citizen missions along these lines I would be quite pleased.
In comic books, villains always get more powerful or find a way to get the upper hand on the heroes that have defeated them before. And you might be thinking of this in too simple of terms. It doesn't have to be five heroes standing and punching one guy who's also standing and punching. I can think of a dozen scenarios where you'd need five heroes to defeat Kevin Poe. Especially after making a deal with the Devil...
Which is probably what you'd need to do to see any actual new content that wasn't just stuff already in-game opened to the players or one-off/repeatable alerts that take less than fifteen minutes to complete actually added to this game.
during the opening cutscene in the meseum during the mission you get just after you create your first nemesis.
Exactly. :biggrin:
It's the whole reason he has Darkness powers now, isn't it?
Don't say that! The Sentinels will get you :x! Then you'd need to travel through time to do a convoluted retcon
But the point is, it's still Poe. You're reusing assets that are already there.
And who's to say that Poe can't unlock new powers in his mind that would allow him to defeat you in two seconds flat, unless you had the help of some of your friends? It all depends on the writing of the scenario. You could come up with any scenario to reuse any villain at all, no matter how weak or powerful they were before, regardless of what level you fought them as, or how weak or powerful they were before, canonically.
Like what's next? Edmund Cully gets exposed to cosmic radiation and becomes a Rampage villain?
That's all fine and good, within the context of any RP sessions you might partake in. For the rest of the game, you succumb to anything the writers/developers throw at you, because your character is not part of the canon. He could become the most powerful telepath in the universe, and within canon, that may not be as powerful as your character, but it doesn't matter. He'll still mind control you or whatever, because that's what he can just do.
Exactly my point, and I'll go back to what I said earlier, in comics, villains are always finding new ways to become more powerful or gain the upper hand.
Also, I'm curious as to how you deal with alerts. It's a bunch of villains who you normally fight alone (Poe included) but strong enough to require five people to complete. Hell, in the case of Black Fang, he's gotten weaker. How would this be any different? Or does this fall in your category of "doesn't make sense, so it's stupid?"
The original post is simply about reusing assets that are already created. The guy's not just talking about making new content all based around how great and powerful Poe is. It's just an example.
For instance, what about new content that revolves around Qwyjibo? He's already a cosmic and doesn't need to be beefed up. Viper X could get new experimental armor or some junk, fits perfectly within scope.
Good god! I never made the correlation before!
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This. Every time I do an alert I keep thinking how cool it would be to use that setting for something else. The same with many other alerts and things like the comic series and so forth. I feel like an extension of already existing concepts would do the game well.
Now, players going Mary Sue isn't an excuse for avoiding Poe or any other villains on his power level.
Superstrong characters also have no place in the Westside checking warehouses, you know?
Also, if developers were taking all player concepts seriously, we'd have Albert Zerstoiten as a henchman leve mob. Or something like that. :biggrin:
Sorry, but you just have to allow the NPCs to do what they want. If there were a mind control power, your character would be vulnerable to it. And no matter how powerful you say your characters are, Cryptic can deem their characters even more powerful, and mind-control you til the cows come home. I mean, how exactly would you deny an NPC their ability to do so?
You just declaring that you can't be controlled psionically is metagaming at best. There is no game mechanic for it. And this goes triple for CO.
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You are silly.
If you have problems fighting Spider-Man level villains, then don't queue for them.
You don't see the Silver Surfer hunting Doc Octopus, right?
Plenty of other players would queue anyway.
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theres another one , which also makes it hard to actually target the person because they don't have a clear pattern.
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But until there's a game mechanic for "has the Secrets of the Universe embedded in her brain", it doesn't count for game purposes.
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No but you do see Spiderman punching Galactus the &%$£ out :P
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I suddenly think back to the RPG rules discussion in an old issue of Dragon about wether Aunt May could (using her pool of karma earned by shopping and keeping appointments) take out Galactus... Back then I would have probably allowed it.
Forget Aunt May, just think of how OPed Squirrel Girl's stats would be and go weep softly in a corner.
Shes kicked the crap out of some Hydra agents, verbally humliated Wolverine and always knew Parker was Spiderman. Would not bet against her <_<
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Not sure how those two things are linked. I suppose if teaming was required to earn bases or base upgrades...
I'd accept forced teaming for that.
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Many people just create them for a cool title. However, I do believe they are still working on the SG HQ ideas, along with newer content. I can hope that it's more team oriented. They seem to be test bedding the idea after all, but not quite there yet.
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Spar, I wish I could agree with you, but our environment person is totally with STO now. I don't see em happening. Shame, since if they implemented em like STO has fleet bases, but with more reasonable stuff to get the extras? They'd move.
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