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The Questionite Exchange needs balance!
jazitheweird
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I'm about done with this whole Questionite Exchange supposed to be helpful to people that don't have money to buy Zen and whatnot but the rates just keep going up and there is completely no sign of it going down. At this point, everyone should just sell their Zen for 500 questionite each because that's what seems is going to happen anyway.
I was around when the system first came out, and I think it was a good idea. But now it's not even worth trying to save up the Questionite, thinking that you'll get a deal or tell yourself that it will go down. If anything, they should raise the cap of you refining Questionite Ore because not everyone has 4+ characters to be able to rotate with.
And yea, you really are getting 16k a day if you do the times right but that still isn't going to help once the prices max out.
Starting to think this was a bad idea now...
I was around when the system first came out, and I think it was a good idea. But now it's not even worth trying to save up the Questionite, thinking that you'll get a deal or tell yourself that it will go down. If anything, they should raise the cap of you refining Questionite Ore because not everyone has 4+ characters to be able to rotate with.
And yea, you really are getting 16k a day if you do the times right but that still isn't going to help once the prices max out.
Starting to think this was a bad idea now...
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I agree it sucks, but unless they want to put a cap on it or limit it, this will continue.
Also, I don't see PW or the dev's putting a cap/limit on the exchange.
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I would also say that prices have inched upward lately because there isn't much new to spend your Q on. Just vehicles and vehicle weapons. What would really help is if we had something new and interesting in the Q-store. Or better yet, a sale. Q-store travel power sales usually do very well.
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but
till the 5th aniversary thats it for events? so weve afew months for the price to drop before it goes insane again
theres 3 choices join in buying reselling q, hoard or just say to hell with it..its only 325q / 1 zen
however
The storage cap of 5000 zen needs to be raised after 20k's worth they vanish off the lists view in the questite exchanges panal which scares the hell outta me which then means i need a mule to hold all the q
im silver i bought n sold then hoarded then said to hell with it
it depends on you patience level
I suspect that Cryptic is trying to keep prices up to at least 300q per zen, so I'm not expecting prices to go back down again. If we see another lockbox event in may/june then expect q prices to never go back below that point.
If you want to, you can pre-set your q or zen to sell at whatever price you want and leave it there. Or set a few batches at different prices to see how things change. It automagically sells once the price point is reached.
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put it in your available balance area, the bit just under your offers, not the bit down the bottom. all your characters can access it there and you can stash a lot there.
to the OP,
all Zen is provided by PLAYERS, NOT by PWE/Cryptic.
They get it by paying directly(purchases) or indirectly(subs).
Just as you are interested in paying as little for it as possible, they are interested in getting as much for their zen as possible. The company does not regulate, though it is in their benefit to have a higher exchange rate for zen, as it means more people are likely to buy zen.
also if there is nothing in the Q store that they want to buy, they are unlikely to be selling
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http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=264901
Since around Christmas I had wondered if anyone was keeping track and using the info to know where Q had been, in relation to Zen, and where it was heading.
I honestly do not think a Q/Z exchange would ever need to be tracked by the hour, but a daily report of such numbers might be useful to track it's broadly moving ups and downs.
Now I have been keeping a pretty close eye on the trend for my own knowledge since - March 01, 2014 - and while I will not post every number here, I will report that the lowest exchange on - March 16th - was 285, and the highest rate of exchange listed, so far, on - March 27th - 349.
I cannot say if the 349 Q for 1 Z was actually exchanged since two days later, the Exchanged listed 320 and two days after that 307. After that it rose again, so some trading probably occurred.
1) Increased supply of Q through Rampage farming. Q inflation.
2) More additions that cost zen/drifter, and almost nothing that cost Q. Therefore, the relation zen demand/Q demand increases favoring Q selling and making Q/Zen rate hgher.
If Q isn't worth converting to Z on the exchange, might as well buy something from the Q store and sell it for G instead.
You think the rate is too high? Get out your wallet.
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You know why CO is on the verge of death? It's people like yourself, driving away potential new gamers with their inappropriate behaviour. You should just cut it out once and for all, it does not make you anymore special than the other people, neither does it make you seem cool or intelligent. What you are achieveing is getting people to really dislike you/your attitude and opinions. It is the tone that makes the music after all. You think you know it all, where in reality you are nothing but a very delusional person living in their own "CO-world". Open your eyes, see the facts and stop acting as if you were something better than the rest of us.
Thank you very much..
It's a business that they're running, not a charity. If you don't want to go through lots of questionite farming over a prolonged period of time just to get enough ZEN to buy whatever it is you want from the Z-store, then pony up the cash.
tactless as she is, Spinny does have a point. You are getting the zen for FREE by playing the game.
You are not having to pay any real money for it. The person who has the zen has already done that.
Why are people, complaining about other people who are paying for it, ALSO wanting to get the most for their half of the bargain .
Are only the people buying zen of the exchange allowed to get a good deal?
You want the exchange rate to go down, tell Cryptic to stop making lockboxes, putting items/having sales in the zen store and drifter store. less reason to get zen.
tell people to stop farming - purple reign, subzero hero and all the rampages. Less Q to go on the market.
After a few months it will go down.
The last time it got to 200 was I think just before christmas event, because we had a long break between lockboxes and events.
exactly what facts are you referring to? since you didn't mention it.
game dying- lets see- minimal updates,
oh yes and then we have;
people in zone going on for hours, literally;
about how bad the game is
how badly treated the players are,
how Gold players are elitist jerks,
how gimped the AT's are...
(and you think this doesn't put people off)
Me, I just listen, put a point in occasionally and write down their @handles .
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I have to agree to this.
If anything, the higher the Q rate is for Zen the more people will be willing to spend money on the game. The better the game does.
If this attests to anything, there should be more high priced, non-vehicle items in the Q store for people to spend on. And those items need to be exceptional.
To keep Q's value in check, there must be some kind of perpetual Q sink. Be it limited charge items, triumphant recoverys, maybe expensive becomes with limited uses. Otherwise everything in the Q store is buy once and last forever, there's no reason to spend Q after the initial hurdle.
The same could be said for G really. Millions of G being farmed since Vehicles 2.0 and no G sink, and look at key prices now.
In the long run, CO's economy is unsustainable. Z is going to keep rising in value because people are going to keep generating ingame currencies and there's nothing to take that out of the economy.
You actually do want ingame currencies to hold some value for a healthy game too. Remember that free players pay with time. If their time buys nothing of value, it hurts retention rate.
This is a good post.
Questionite in game has little value so people just dump it. People say the rule of thumb is 300 questionite or under per zen but I would argue 350 questonite or under per zen is a better guideline given the proliferation of lockboxes.
There also has to be something to spend G on as well as Unity and Until recognition.
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The Hearstring Lockbox, the Vehicle 2.0 Update and the Foxbat Lockbox didn't helped since it Inflated the prices without leaving it free space to get back!
Save your Questionite and don't buy Zen with it! the prices will eventually go back... except if we get ANOTHER lockbox which means ANOTHER inflation
I actually do! I found out my Country has PaySafe cards which Cryptic and PWE Support in Micropayment
Well the game needs money to live after all (money which goes to STO and NEW HOORAY)
I agree with the stereotype of "OH YOU DON'T PAY MONEY ON THIS GAME! YOU ARE LEECHER AGHASDBFHSDGFHB" or the "You are not Subscriber? You are useless to the game" some people and ****ed up Individuals have <_< (Believe me I have come across those Individuals, THOSE makes the game unfriendly)
Spinnytop just makes a point, he is NOT like that! :U
You can always farm Q for other reasons :U (a few Costume pieces, Vigilante Gear, Pathetic Vehicle Mark weapons)
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Selphea,
good point. Can you put that in the suggestions and the PTS areas.
with the rampages, the Triumphant recovery packs should sell well from the q store as opposed to the overpriced ones from the zen store.
so;
triumphant recovery packs,
energy recharge
health packs
what else could we get in?
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I beg your Pardon?
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This is a myth based on zero factual information. It's really boring hearing this argument that's been pulled out of people's rumps all the time. It's HIGHLY unlikely that anyone's message board behavior here is having ANY affect on sales one way or another. What kind of a moron bases their gameplay on "there was some negative talk on their boards"? There's ALWAYS negative talk on message boards. It's what humans do best, complain.
The same morons who think an MMO can stay supported with no cash influx. The same morons who hear one bad review of a new MMO and then say it sucks. The same moron who bases how fun a game is/will be by who developed it.
I'd say it's that kind of moron who would follow what they hear on a message board.
Done: http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=4091531
Please support this if you feel strongly about it, and remember that this actually affects pricing in the Q-store too. In the beginning, 150k to 200k was considered an exorbitant price. Now, vehicle weapons are priced at 295k and R2 weapons were bumped in price. That's a sign of inflation.
I believe prices at the top end will always be pegged to Zen to make sure they don't get too cheap for us, so the main effect of Q inflation is that Q items will get harder to farm by ingame means.
So, your basic, garden variety moron, then. Got it. :biggrin:
hmm, sounds like my younger brother except I know he's more interested in his race car, full size not scale model
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It gets easier once you've got a higher level toon but, you've still got the fact that you can only refine a max of 10k Q per day per toon limiting how much you can exchange at a time. I just looked at the current exchange rate which is between 300 and 400 questionite per zen which means that you'll be able to earn between 33 and 25 zen per day per toon so, someone that only has two character slots would be able to earn enough zen to get a costume set about once every other week if they max their Q every day.
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Speculation is fundimentally about price correction. Basically, there is a natural rate that prices naturally settle over time, and you make profit by pushing prices towards that natural rate. The problem in this game is that there are so many people with schemes trying to manipulate the whole market...they lose each time, but it usually takes a day for the market to recover.