Gravitar drop became...Broken!!

monaahiru · February 2014

WTF 1Q!

So who got tokens so far?

amii85 · February 2014

Drops? There are drops in Gravitar?

chaelk · February 2014

The q drop including no death bonus- 51Q
next run 2 deaths.. 2Q

has anyone got any tokens or aura or new costume drops form her?

wimpazoid · February 2014

I brought a DPS in completed without deaths, got 3Q and Aura and completion Perk.

I brought a Healer in completed without deaths, got 18Q and NO Perk for completing the first time. Maybe I did not do enough DPS?

Out of 6 runs I got very little Q and 1 Aura.

scorpagor · February 2014

Just completed a Gravitar rampage on a healer. Spent most of the time healing/rezzing and did next to no damage.

I got no reward whatsoever, not even a single Q.

I did get the perk, though.

riverocean · February 2014

scorpagor wrote: »

Just completed a Gravitar rampage on a healer. Spent most of the time healing/rezzing and did next to no damage.

I got no reward whatsoever, not even a single Q.

I did get the perk, though.

This is something I've complained about..even before the revamp. If you don't do enough dmg on Gravi to make it to the scoreboard, you get nothing! Even if you were healing like crazy, if you don't do enough damage to place on the scoreboard, you get nothing. :mad:

That being said, yes currently Gravitar is giving out tiny amounts of Q as a complete reward.

mrhinkypunk · February 2014

I did my first run of the day AND I GO....

488 Q.

Seems broken to me. ;D The people on vent are saying how they have done like 60-75 runs so far and have got nothing yet... Mhm yeah.

edit:

second run for some reason I got two separate drops of 55Q then 288Q... Lol wut.

cyrone · February 2014

wimpazoid wrote: »

I brought a DPS in completed without deaths, got 3Q and Aura and completion Perk.

I brought a Healer in completed without deaths, got 18Q and NO Perk for completing the first time. Maybe I did not do enough DPS?

Out of 6 runs I got very little Q and 1 Aura.

What aura?

flyingfinn · February 2014

All the Q is now in Sky Carrier. It's not like they would give tons of Q just from couple of missions.

theravenforce · February 2014

I'm also seconding the question that Cyrone posed as to what Aura does Gravitar drop?

aiqa · February 2014

theravenforce wrote: »

I'm also seconding the question that Cyrone posed as to what Aura does Gravitar drop?

The telepathy one I believe.

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trailturtle · February 2014

Thanks for the heads-up, folks, passed it on to LordGar.

ariesmajor · February 2014

trailturtle wrote: »

Thanks for the heads-up, folks, passed it on to LordGar.

*crosses fingers for hotfix*

chaelk · February 2014

ok, that run. I was on the table and got NOTHING.
no Q no costume, no token nothing

theravenforce · February 2014

aiqa wrote: »

The telepathy one I believe.

Ooh. Thanks very much! I'll need at least four copies of it then lol.

Psionic Aura. Well I'm glad it got that name...however personally I would have paired it with a mentalist boss...but it can be definitely applied to different situations for usage, even though it is reminiscent of Psionic Reflective Shield power from NPC's.

Glad to see it is in game though

wimpazoid · February 2014

I have spent 2 hours on playing gravitar now and have a total of 1 Aura, 1 Diamond and 1 Gloves, plus very little Q.

Seems fair enough except for the very little Q part.

monaahiru · February 2014

wimpazoid wrote: »

I have spent 2 hours on playing gravitar now and have a total of 1 Aura, 1 Diamond and 1 Gloves, plus very little Q.

Seems fair enough except for the very little Q part.

6h 40 run only few Q here. You are lucky.

aiqa · February 2014

monaahiru wrote: »

6h 40 run only few Q here. You are lucky.

5 hours, 3 tokens for me. But then I got really unlucky with F&I, I only have one token from that.
There is a fix on PTS now, and another one for healers coming up, so all will be good.

kallethen · February 2014

gradii wrote: »

the so called "Psionic Shield"

the fact is, it drops in gravitar, and doesnt look one bit psionic. it should have a different name.

Flux field or Gravity bubble perhaps. I don't really care if "Psionic" enemies have it, if it still doesn't LOOK psionic...

Seriously. What. The. Hell.

It was first called something like Force Shield Aura on the PTS. Many a player posted that it was more of a psionic aura than Force because of the wobble. Devs changed the name and there was rejoicing.

And now we complain that Psionic isn't a good name.

I swear. We'd complain if they gave each and every one of us $10,000...

flyingfinn · February 2014

We'd complain if they gave each and every one of us $10,000...

I'd get preeeetty drunk 1st.

decorumfriends · February 2014

kallethen sees humanity in action:

Seriously. What. The. Hell.

It was first called something like Force Shield Aura on the PTS. Many a player posted that it was more of a psionic aura than Force because of the wobble. Devs changed the name and there was rejoicing.

And now we complain that Psionic isn't a good name.

I swear. We'd complain if they gave each and every one of us $10,000...

Hee! It's a message board. Expecting anything resembling a consensus is borderline delusional. :biggrin:

baroness1980 · February 2014

decorumfriends wrote: »

Hee! It's a message board. Expecting anything resembling a consensus is borderline delusional. :biggrin:

However...

I think we can reach a consensus about that quote, right?

On topic, I would love to see others that do not focus on DPS also get credit for the missions. It is not good if 1 or 2 players have to "take one for the team" and get no rewards.

spinnytop · February 2014

kallethen wrote: »

Seriously. What. The. Hell.

It was first called something like Force Shield Aura on the PTS. Many a player posted that it was more of a psionic aura than Force because of the wobble. Devs changed the name and there was rejoicing.

And now Gradii complains that Psionic isn't a good name.

I swear. Gradii'd complain if they gave each and every one of us $10,000...

Fix'd in the name of accuracy... unless "we" can now be used to denote one person .-.

gavinruneblade · February 2014

spinnytop wrote: »

Fix'd in the name of accuracy... unless "we" can now be used to denote one person .-.

There's always the royal we: "we are/not amused."

rianfrost · February 2014

gavinruneblade wrote: »

There's always the royal we: "we are/not amused."

I playd the royal wii once, prince Charles plays a cheap bowser in smash bros.

aiqa · February 2014

Well I am not really seeing any increase in (token) drops.

chaelk · February 2014

the Q increased but I havent got anything else. Mind you, I've only done about 4 runs after the patch.

Hey , I have work to do.... to get the pay... to get the PWE cards..
that reminds, gotta check this weeks contest

chaelk · February 2014

still nothing but Q, so what exactly is the chance of a drop?
is anyone getting the tokens or new costumes?

monaahiru · February 2014

chaelk wrote: »

still nothing but Q, so what exactly is the chance of a drop?
is anyone getting the tokens or new costumes?

People are gettin meh not. o3o

jaazaniah1 · February 2014

I did 7 runs last night and only got Zen and Gravitar's pumps. The token drop rate is either abysmally low or broken. It doesn't have to be at the rate of SC, but half a dozen plus runs should net at least 1 token.

blasphemouswords · February 2014

jaazaniah1 wrote: »

I did 7 runs last night and only got Zen and Gravitar's pumps. The token drop rate is either abysmally low or broken. It doesn't have to be at the rate of SC, but half a dozen plus runs should net at least 1 token.

It's just low. SC spoiled everyone in that you got eight loot circles rather than just one.
You've also barely scratched the surface in playing the RNG. 7 runs is at the very least 18 to 20 minutes. Groups can clear Grav within two minutes and change.

I grinded Grav about two hundred times yesterday (from 1 est to 10 est with a few brief breaks along the way) and didn't get a single token drop until I decided to alt after eighty or so runs.

So yes, the drop rate is low and the RNG can be mean. But half a dozen runs should take at most from twenty to twenty five minutes. I would hazard a guess and say that's shorter than dailies( but I haven't touched those since they first came out). I'll support guaranteed token drops after your fourtieth run or so

. Maybe thirty.

Happy grinding, y'all.

jaazaniah1 · February 2014

Nah. Most people don't have the time to do 200 runs a day. I've never been in a group that did Gravitar in 2+ minutes. It took over an hour to do the 7 I did. I picked up 7 tokens in under a dozen runs for SC. The degree of difficulty and time needed seems about the same for Gravitar and SC (from my experience) so I'd support comparable drop rates. There'll be mighty unhappy players if it's childishly easy to pick up all the tokens you need in a dozen runs in one Rampage but needing hundreds of runs for the same number of tokens for a different rampage of the same difficulty.

blasphemouswords wrote: »

It's just low. SC spoiled everyone in that you got eight loot circles rather than just one.
You've also barely scratched the surface in playing the RNG. 7 runs is at the very least 18 to 20 minutes. Groups can clear Grav within two minutes and change.

I grinded Grav about two hundred times yesterday (from 1 est to 10 est with a few brief breaks along the way) and didn't get a single token drop until I decided to alt after eighty or so runs.

So yes, the drop rate is low and the RNG can be mean. But half a dozen runs should take at most from twenty to twenty five minutes. I would hazard a guess and say that's shorter than dailies( but I haven't touched those since they first came out). I'll support guaranteed token drops after your fourtieth run or so . Maybe thirty.

Happy grinding, y'all.

spinnytop · February 2014

My question is still: Why does anyone care how soon they get this gear?

I look forward to someone who will answer that question directly, rather than evasively

falchoin · February 2014

Why do I care how quickly I get the new gear? Because it's new and shiny. Plus it does make a noticeable difference on my support character's damage.

Unfortunately because I'm not "hardcore" enough to go through 200+ runs for a single freaking token, my desire to play CO has dwindled to near nil yet once again. So yes, happy grinding/bashing your face against a brick wall to those still actively going for tokens.

sistersilicon · February 2014

spinnytop wrote: »

My question is still: Why does anyone care how soon they get this gear?

I look forward to someone who will answer that question directly, rather than evasively

blasphemouswords wrote: »

I grinded Grav about two hundred times yesterday (from 1 est to 10 est with a few brief breaks along the way) and didn't get a single token drop until I decided to alt after eighty or so runs.

So yes, the drop rate is low and the RNG can be mean. But half a dozen runs should take at most from twenty to twenty five minutes. I would hazard a guess and say that's shorter than dailies( but I haven't touched those since they first came out). I'll support guaranteed token drops after your fourtieth run or so . Maybe thirty.

I have one hour a night, at most, to play. Some nights, I don't even sit down at that PC. Do the math. I might accumulate enough tokens to buy one piece of gear by the 4th of July if drop rates don't improve. And that's if I manage to devote one hour per night, every night, to grinding CO rampages to the exclusion of all other games.

quasimojo1 · February 2014

Here's my data, for your comparison:

I got 6 tokens from Gravitar in 65 runs. The average run time was 5 minutes, 48 seconds.

I got 5 tokens in 49 Fire & Ice runs. The average run time was 8 minutes, 27 seconds.

I didn't run stats during Sky Command, but I got 7 tokens in about 20-30 runs. Sky Command runs are about 15 minutes.

So yeah, it's definitely something of a grind. Hopefully the drop rate will be relatively high for Lemurian Invasion considering how long it takes.

spinnytop · February 2014

quasimojo1 wrote: »

I got 6 tokens from Gravitar in 65 runs. The average run time was 5 minutes, 48 seconds.

I got 5 tokens in 49 Fire & Ice runs. The average run time was 8 minutes, 27 seconds.

That looks like about a 10% drop rate. And I am now going to write it in the Big Book Of Proven Statistics before anyone can say otherwise O3O *scribblescribblescribble*

blasphemouswords · February 2014

Within that hour of playing time, you could farm Mega
Destroids in Resistance. Within that hour, maybe more, with smash and currency buffs, you could acquire enough G's to purchase Legion gear.

The advocacy and arguments for a higher drop rate seemingly revolves around the desire to get the new "shinies" faster, like spinnytop asked. If you guys really wanted it that badly, grind it instead of constantly posting about how "unfair" the drop rate is.

The difference between legion and justice isn't that -large-. The set bonuses become almost neglible if you're already min-maxing offense and defense due to DR. And if you're aiming towards dodge or cd reduction, you're already losing out by going for justice gear. The stat bonuses and crit severity aren't that large to warrant that burning desire to get the gear now. I like to think the reasoning between a low drop rate is to maintain a player's desire to continuously log in and play the rampage. If you're a casual player, I can't imagine why you would want a higher end gear when you're barely utilizing it. And when you realize you can't get it within an hour or so of play, you get annoyed ( which is basically what most of these complaints are about, an annoyance with the drop rate because you just can't get it fast enough. Now if you are relatively "hardcore", I can understand the need to min max. Another thing is that I have yet to see anyone who has done a similar amount of farming as I have to make a post about how unfair the drop rate is. Now if more players who have spent countless hours as I have made posts about how unfair the RNG is, I would before willing to agree.

oomnni · February 2014

I ran 40+ Fire & Ice and recieved 2 tokens... (I was always on scoreboard)

I ran 40+ SC and recieved 1 token...20+ eye patches etc...

I have done 15+ Gravitar and have recieved 1 token(first trun after patch)

I am a little baffled by the range of RNG, but it does not bother me because I know i will be playing for the near future so it will come eventually.

RNG in this game is a lot better then most in my experience.

sistersilicon · February 2014

blasphemouswords wrote: »

The advocacy and arguments for a higher drop rate seemingly revolves around the desire to get the new "shinies" faster, like spinnytop asked. If you guys really wanted it that badly, grind it instead of constantly posting about how "unfair" the drop rate is.

You spent nine hours on a weekday grinding for tokens.

I have a full-time job.

That is the classic Hardcore v Casual dichotomy in a nutshell. It's ages older than Champions Online, and it's a problem because it's about quantity of time, not quality of time.

blasphemouswords wrote: »

If you're a casual player, I can't imagine why you would want a higher end gear when you're barely utilizing it.

"Barely utilizing it"? It's not like we're talking about perishable goods here. If I'm playing, I'm utilizing it. If anything, I want to ensure that the limited time I have to play is time well-spent on challenging content, so why wouldn't I want the best gear for that purpose?

As long as the current drop rate results in hours of work with zero* progress, Justice gear falls squarely on the Hardcore side.

* Don't say "globals" are progress, because AH prices are going to be sky high for the foreseeable future.

jonsills · February 2014

sistersilicon wrote: »

* Don't say "globals" are progress, because AH prices are going to be sky high for the foreseeable future.

And the factor often ignored in such discussions - some of us are Silver. Even if we wanted to grind out the globals to purchase the stuff on the AH, we can't, because we can't carry more than 250G at a time. When the minimum price on the AH is in the thousands, well, we're just SOL on that, so if we want the gear, we need the tokens. Which have a pretty flipping pitiful drop rate. (Although I've only run Gravy twice this go-round; the first time, she glitched into the ground and nobody could touch her, the second time we won and I got 1500 Q and nothing else.)

It would sure be nice if I had the time to sit here and grind the game out over and over, but while I am at home now, I also have a family to take care of, each and every one of whom is disabled in one fashion or another. Game time is when I can snatch it, usually during hours when I'm supposed to be asleep.

aiqa · February 2014

sistersilicon wrote: »

* Don't say "globals" are progress, because AH prices are going to be sky high for the foreseeable future.

As far as I know it is all bind on pickup, tokens bind to account, and the gear itself bind to character.

chaelk · March 2014

BOP, bugger. No good as prizes then.

trailturtle · March 2014

blasphemouswords wrote: »

It's just low. SC spoiled everyone in that you got eight loot circles rather than just one.

It's worth noting, just as a heads-up, that that'll be changing in a future update.

aiqa · March 2014

trailturtle wrote: »

It's worth noting, just as a heads-up, that that'll be changing in a future update.

SC (which we know about from the PTS thread), or the others?

flyingfinn · March 2014

The others ofcourse, their getting 10 Reward Circles also.

grazerr · March 2014

sistersilicon wrote: »

You spent nine hours on a weekday grinding for tokens.

I have a full-time job.

That is the classic Hardcore v Casual dichotomy in a nutshell. It's ages older than Champions Online, and it's a problem because it's about quantity of time, not quality of time.

Totally agree with ya.

roughbearmattach · March 2014

flyingfinn wrote: »

The others ofcourse, their getting 10 Reward Circles also.

LOL

Oh, you are TOO much!

amontillado1 · March 2014

I bet they fix the extra loot drops before they fix copying characters into PTS.....

sigh

sistersilicon · March 2014

amontillado1 wrote: »

I bet they fix the extra loot drops before they fix copying characters into PTS.....

sigh

Unfortunately true, because Cryptic only has full control of in-game issues. The PTS Copy page, on the other hand, is being handled by PWE's home office, which seems to be lacking in urgency.

Gravitar drop became...Broken!!

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