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I can't open the CO Wiki

guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,396 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Champions Online Discussion
I wonder if it's down for everyone or just me? It's a nice resource to have even if it's only bare bones in places, I hope it's going to be back soon.
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yup. Its down. Been since yesterday. About.
    Hope it's nothing to do with the ARC and it's coming Awesome Game Guides and Wikis....
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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,396 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I noticed it was down yesterday as well, but I was getting spotty internet at the time so I thought the problem might have been on my end. Anyways I thought I'd better bring it up here on the off chance that whoever was running it wasn't aware that it was down. It is the holiday season after all.
  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yep, 504 Gateway Timeout.
  • joybuzzerxjoybuzzerx Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Yeah, been down for me sense yesterday as well.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    me too. hoepfuly its not ARC causign problmes.. again
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  • dr490nbr347hidr490nbr347hi Posts: 260 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Here too. It just doesn't want to load.
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  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    For as long as its not fixed:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20131120001804/http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/
  • gtw891gtw891 Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Any reasons given for why it's been shut down yet?
  • kenpojujitsu3kenpojujitsu3 Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It being down wouldn't have anything to do with Cryptic or ARC since Lohr is the one who has been paying for it out of her own pocket. It's her website, not theirs. The company just links to it...while giving her no help with it...
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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,396 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well that's a shame, a company should fund their own online presence, and a wiki is a huge help to players like myself that aren't entirely familiar with the champions universe. I would like to thank Lohr for her work then, and I hope the site comes back at some point, but if not she's clearly already gone above and beyond the call of duty for a CO fan.
  • wrathsoul1wrathsoul1 Posts: 680 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Should we assume Lohr ran out of funds?
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,620 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The only thing we should assume is that there is an issue with the host and that Lohr isn't back from the holidays yet to notice.
  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    kenpojujitsu3 wrote: »
    It being down wouldn't have anything to do with Cryptic or ARC since Lohr is the one who has been paying for it out of her own pocket. It's her website, not theirs. The company just links to it...while giving her no help with it...

    Thanks for that, I was getting confused about the ARC comments, as I was pretty damn sure Cryptic/PWE had nothing to do with the wiki. ("Is there another ARC I'm not aware of that's an ISP?") It seems everyone wants to blame ARC for everything.
  • stellariodragonstellariodragon Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    It seems everyone wants to blame ARC for everything.

    You could say it was...

    Another ARC Tangent.


    -A CO tangent cosigned by Beast
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    aiqa wrote: »
    For as long as its not fixed:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20131120001804/http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/

    It's useful. Slow load from page to page, but still useful.

    Also, the search function doesn't search.
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  • sistersiliconsistersilicon Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    stellariodragon wrote: »
    You could say it was...

    Another ARC Tangent.


    -A CO tangent cosigned by Beast

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  • xmyuikixxmyuikix Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    stellariodragon wrote: »
    You could say it was...

    Another ARC Tangent.


    -A CO tangent cosigned by Beast

    ARC is now active. *ahem* I mean Skynet. :biggrin:
  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    zedbrightlander1 wrote: »
    It's useful. Slow load from page to page, but still useful.

    Also, the search function doesn't search.

    Unfortunately only static content can be archived.
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    Yup. Its down. Been since yesterday. About.
    Hope it's nothing to do with the ARC and it's coming Awesome Game Guides and Wikis....
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    If PWE has screwed with all Lohrs work it will mean they are really a bunch of massive tools who are out of touch with their player base. No one wants ARC U_U
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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Sadly, it's still down (504 Gateway Time-out).

    :frown:

    Any updates to the Wiki's status?
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  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,739 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hey guys, I got in touch with Lohr. The situation is that she's no longer hosting the wiki. She has made a backup of it, and will be giving it to the developers, so hopefully it'll be back up in the near future.
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  • zahinderzahinder Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Oh, I'm sure the developers will get right on that.
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  • gtw891gtw891 Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Oh crap.

    Maybe it's time for that plan b (i.e. someone else on this list wanting to start up a site like it) happens now. Still I hope it's soon.
  • mrinfinitummrinfinitum Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    awwww....sadness...:confused::eek::frown:
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    Hey guys, I got in touch with Lohr. The situation is that she's no longer hosting the wiki. She has made a backup of it, and will be giving it to the developers, so hopefully it'll be back up in the near future.

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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  • williamkonywilliamkony Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    biffsmackwell wrote: »
    Hey guys, I got in touch with Lohr. The situation is that she's no longer hosting the wiki. She has made a backup of it, and will be giving it to the developers, so hopefully it'll be back up in the near future.

    ...Right.

    You know what? This is the moment of truth. The developers' actions here will show whether they do or do not care anymore.

    Here's hoping they surprise us all.
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Maybe CO Wiki finally gets the same dedication that STO and NW Wikis get.
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,851 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    kenpojujitsu3 wrote: »
    It being down wouldn't have anything to do with Cryptic or ARC since Lohr is the one who has been paying for it out of her own pocket. It's her website, not theirs. The company just links to it...while giving her no help with it...

    :/

    Well, if that's the case- I would like to give Lohr a massive thank you (and a hug) for all the help that wiki has provided me. Hope it actually has a future now..
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  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I honestly don't blame Lohr for giving up hosting the wiki. It seemed like a thankless job at the end of the day, especially when Cryptic had no hand in maintaining it and had the audacity to slap the link of it on their main site like it was theirs.

    So now that it's "theirs", let's see what they're going to do with it.
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  • gtw891gtw891 Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Same here. Respect is a two-way street and I'm surprise she kept it up as long as she did (Or that she still has any interest in CO now).
  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,538 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It would truly be a pity if PWE/Cryptic let that wonderful resource disappear. I hope they have the wherewithal to take it on.
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  • zahinderzahinder Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    It would truly be a pity if PWE/Cryptic let that wonderful resource disappear. I hope they have the wherewithal to take it on.

    It would, however, be in-character (see: legacy items/costumes/etc)
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  • warcanchwarcanch Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Now I must play this game .... based on my MEMORY? That recently most ephemeral part of my .... um .... uh ............ I like cake better than pie cuz pie has too many chewy things .... I think.:confused:


    I've always appreciated our wiki goddess and the multitudes who try to keep it relevant and current. Often thankless and sometimes the actual point of heated discussion. But, still a resource that many of us rely on.

    Thank you, Lohr, for keeping it going as long as you did.
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  • vizzonevizzone Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I posted this in the wiki memorial thread, figured I'd share it here too: archive to the wiki. Somewhat slow to load, but it should do until the devs get the backup.
  • williamkonywilliamkony Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    vizzone wrote: »
    I posted this in the wiki memorial thread, figured I'd share it here too: archive to the wiki. Somewhat slow to load, but it should do until the devs get the backup.

    Watch as they change the Wiki link on the Champions page to this archive version. :P
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I am pretty sure that Lohr created the CO WIKI for the players.

    There are a lot of things I never would have accomplished, in game, with out the Wiki.

    Thank you, Lohr. Hope you are enjoying what ever you are doing now.
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  • raakshiraakshi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yeah, thanks Lohr. For the couple of years I've been with the game, your site has made it possible for me to really enjoy myself. It will be missed, but hopefully you're up to some good!

    In the meantime, while we wait for the devs to decided on what to do with the resources they've been given, should we just flesh out a wikia? :I I doubt it'd be too difficult so long as a tiny bit of effort is put in. That way, if this ever happens again- where we lost one resource- we'll have our own back up. I could just make a new wikia to start from scratch, then advertise it a little to those of us that care.
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    zedbrightlander1 wrote: »
    I am pretty sure that Lohr created the CO WIKI for the players.

    There are a lot of things I never would have accomplished, in game, with out the Wiki.

    Thank you, Lohr. Hope you are enjoying what ever you are doing now.

    I pretty sure Lohr will go down the greatest Super Hero CO has ever seen. Even though I think shes a bit of a meany pants :/

    All the power to ya peacock butt I salute you o7

    *also thanks for all the help =^.^=
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    raakshi wrote: »
    Yeah, thanks Lohr. For the couple of years I've been with the game, your site has made it possible for me to really enjoy myself. It will be missed, but hopefully you're up to some good!

    In the meantime, while we wait for the devs to decided on what to do with the resources they've been given, should we just flesh out a wikia? :I I doubt it'd be too difficult so long as a tiny bit of effort is put in. That way, if this ever happens again- where we lost one resource- we'll have our own back up. I could just make a new wikia to start from scratch, then advertise it a little to those of us that care.

    STO's wiki is on Gamepedia. If Cryptic doesn't do anything with Lohr's files (which is extremely likely) we could always make the new one there.
  • gtw891gtw891 Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Anyway someone can contact Lohr to get those files and set up a new one on Gamepedia or start a new one now there-just in case.

    Just saying.
  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,396 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Before we go talking about putting up IP on other site we have to know if this is acceptable. Champions Online and the Champions RPG by Hero games are owned by two different companies and perhaps one of the reasons there is a stall is that someone needs permission to put up the information. I'm well aware that Star Trek is owned by other company as well but this is likely the work of a fan collective rather Cryptic. If a company were to build something like the wiki they might need permission to do so.

    Just a thought.
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Cryptic owns Champions IP. And is leasing it to Hero Games.
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  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,739 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    guyhumual wrote: »
    Before we go talking about putting up IP on other site we have to know if this is acceptable. Champions Online and the Champions RPG by Hero games are owned by two different companies and perhaps one of the reasons there is a stall is that someone needs permission to put up the information. I'm well aware that Star Trek is owned by other company as well but this is likely the work of a fan collective rather Cryptic. If a company were to build something like the wiki they might need permission to do so.

    Just a thought.

    No, Cryptic owns the Champions IP. However, yes, the wiki was a private venture made and hosted by a player who has moved on to other games.
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  • strykor1977strykor1977 Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    There's always this site, but it's been out of date since 2011.

    http://championsonline.wikia.com/wiki/Champions_Online_Wiki
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    strykor1977 wrote: »
    There's always this site, but it's been out of date since 2011.

    http://championsonline.wikia.com/wiki/Champions_Online_Wiki

    ACK!

    http://championsonline.wikia.com/wiki/Rogues_Gallery_Perks

    MY EYES! MY EYES!

    But seriously, it looks like it need a serious overhaul.
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  • wrathsoul1wrathsoul1 Posts: 680 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    zedbrightlander1 wrote: »
    ACK!

    http://championsonline.wikia.com/wiki/Rogues_Gallery_Perks

    MY EYES! MY EYES!

    But seriously, it looks like it need a serious overhaul.

    So, who will start working on making it up to date?
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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Feel free to start, since its available for all.
    Shouldn't be hard to find all the people that were so eager to start and help the last 2 Champions Wiki attempts that didn't quite get much wind under their wings.
    Or sit down and wait for whats happening with the CO Wiki.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    zedbrightlander1 wrote: »
    ACK!

    http://championsonline.wikia.com/wiki/Rogues_Gallery_Perks

    MY EYES! MY EYES!

    But seriously, it looks like it need a serious overhaul.

    Yeah, I wouldn't wish Wikia on my worst enemy. The site uses that damn virused ad-service.
  • masterzenshoumasterzenshou Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    I just came back to the game and without the wiki, I have no idea where I left off with my character or where to begin with new ones.

    I have no idea how to go about gearing my 40's now. >_<

    So saaaaaaaaaad!
  • gammabreakergammabreaker Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    If we can get the site's data, I might be able to swing the hosting costs if someone else can do the administration of it. Or I suppose I could learn how to do that, if need be...

    And yes, I'm aware of how much it cost Lohr to keep it up since F2P hit. Though a service of that potency probably won't be necessary with our current diminished population.
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