This UI weirdness will be cleared up in the next patch.
Thanks for clearing that up, Lordgar!
I'm sure you guys are aware of the bug where some auras when placed in the combat slots will blink out immediately after combat instead of fading away?
And thanks for popping in on Thanksgiving! You too Radioscience :P
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its the new Crate of Questionite supposed to drop Ore? rather than the actual refine questionite. Cause this will affect the exchange rates dramatically if its not ore.
its the new Crate of Questionite supposed to drop Ore? rather than the actual refine questionite. Cause this will affect the exchange rates dramatically if its not ore.
I think it -may- be intended just to help along the aura sales.
(I have the feeling I am dreadfully wrong when I post this :P)
For those interested, distribution of the new Winter lockbox:
n=240
*new* 16 crates of questionite (25-50k, not ore)
Thats... interesting. Assuming that we have a reasonable sample size... 16 crates in 240 boxes is 2 crates per 30 boxes. Assuming LOW values, thats 50,000Q per 30 boxes, or 1,666 Q per box.
Probably wont upset the Q market much, but it is interesting, inasmuch as the Q income would offset about 10% of the Z cost per-box.
I'm sure you guys are aware of the bug where some auras when placed in the combat slots will blink out immediately after combat instead of fading away?
All Auras placed in Combat Only slots poof roughly a second after you've left combat. I think the Aura system is only checking for the combat flag while the Passives waited for 3-4 seconds after the flag went away to have the aura shut down.
Not really sure if that's a bug or by design or not.
Legion gloves of offense only has +68 to offense making it only as good as the scr gloves of offense after slotting in an r9 impact prism. Hope the devs could fix this.
All Auras placed in Combat Only slots poof roughly a second after you've left combat. I think the Aura system is only checking for the combat flag while the Passives waited for 3-4 seconds after the flag went away to have the aura shut down.
Not really sure if that's a bug or by design or not.
This is not true. Snow cloud, rune hands and runes head faded after combat instead of a blink (there and just gone in less than a second). IMO fading makes the auras much more awesome and increases the immersion factor. It may be that only certain auras fade and others blink, or those that blink are missing some effect as their fading animation.
If the blink is intended, it's so sudden that you don't get to bask in the glory of your character after they've ripped out the entrails... I mean... defeated and sent to jail... an enemy... Basically, the blink isn't the greatest of aesthetics and its a little disappointing considering everything the auras offer visually.
I hope it is a bug of some sort.
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Bug: Santa's jacket and gloves cannot be worn at the same time, if the Jacket is properly selected under coats and jackets (wearing it under the other chest options creates minor clipping issues.) Santa gloves should be moved to short gloves and hands.
I really love the new Santa outfit. It has a lot of bits I've been wanting for a while, from a more awesome Santa hat, to a full beard, to the nifty jacket and pants. It just has some minor issues I'd like to see addressed. I also like that this costume comes in one piece from the lock boxes, instead of having to piecemeal it out. That really helps us players out a lot.
One thing:
Have you guys considered doing a new questionite store or maybe a drifter's salvage costume set? I'm about vehicled out at the moment (none of the new content uses them) and I'd love to spend some alternate currencies on a new costume set or two.
Oh, and one way or another, you guys should really address the aura pricing issue, or this is going to turn into a debacle that will unnecessarily sour the communities mood on these new, and quite awesome toys.
Bug: Santa's jacket and gloves cannot be worn at the same time, if the Jacket is properly selected under coats and jackets (wearing it under the other chest options creates minor clipping issues.) Santa gloves should be moved to short gloves and hands.
I got the jacket and gloves to work just fine, though I went to the treasure chest and put them on there. Maybe that makes a difference.
This could be an issue for in combat auras especially, by lagging out players with extra VFX or something.
I already brought that up. I wonder with enough people running 8 auras on a Clarence fight if you can crash the entire zone or at least a few people's computers. Can't wait to try it on live.
We give our feedback on other things, why is giving feedback on ridiculous aura pricing wrong? Honestly, I can't imagine people are going to choose the legacy auras over the new ones all that often anyway and an $8-$9 price tag isn't going to help.
I already brought that up. I wonder with enough people running 8 auras on a Clarence fight if you can crash the entire zone or at least a few people's computers. Can't wait to try it on live.
We give our feedback on other things, why is giving feedback on ridiculous aura pricing wrong? Honestly, I can't imagine people are going to choose the legacy auras over the new ones all that often anyway and an $8-$9 price tag isn't going to help.
I thought as much, I remember seeing this brought up by yourself and others, the more worrisome thing, is that we cannot actually test it on PTS since, to my knowledge, Clarence is not active.
I thought as much, I remember seeing this brought up by yourself and others, the more worrisome thing, is that we cannot actually test it on PTS since, to my knowledge, Clarence is not active.
Could always get a group of people to attack the dummies in the PH while all having as many auras as possible. If then everyone could give their system specs and the fps impact I bet the devs would be interested in hearing about that, they even literally asked for performance information in the blog post.
A couple of friends and I went through the finkle alert and most of us bad multiple auras. Off than one lag attack early on it was perfectly fine. Granted it was an alert and not an open mission, but since 90% of this game is alerts now...well at least alerts are not impacted too much.
I got the jacket and gloves to work just fine, though I went to the treasure chest and put them on there. Maybe that makes a difference.
By default, the jacket loads via the base model. The problem with that, is that it isn't fitted properly to that model, and creates clipping issues. If the jacket is worn on the jacket chest type there is no clipping, but you can't wear the gloves.
As I said, this would be fixed either by fixing the clipping issue (harder) or changing the glove to the short glove slot (easier.) I advocate for the latter.
Considering the game has a hard cap on how many particle FX can be rendered at once, i doubt there will be an issue with auras causing lag.
There will however, be an issue with anyone using multiple of them having either their auras or powers becoming invisible because they're hitting that hard coded particle FX limit (especially with more complex, layered auras).
The UI is the most massive source of FPS drop in the game anyhow, player names or anything else above people's heads will often cut frame rates in half or more if enabled with enough players clumped in one place.
Considering the game has a hard cap on how many particle FX can be rendered at once, i doubt there will be an issue with auras causing lag.
There will however, be an issue with anyone using multiple of them having either their auras or powers becoming invisible because they're hitting that hard coded particle FX limit (especially with more complex, layered auras).
The UI is the most massive source of FPS drop in the game anyhow, player names or anything else above people's heads will often cut frame rates in half or more if enabled with enough players clumped in one place.
This right here 1000%. Auras won't be a problem (unless you already have the more broken UI systems of player names and damage floaters turned off) on players' PCs.
I've also seen it when the particle cap has been met on games like STO (where I swear it's smaller than CO is) - it looks just horrid when things like everyone's energy weapons just fail to render. I for one wish I could increase it past 200%.
One thing I've noticed (and I say this being a new Gold, so I don't know if this is a problem specific to this build, or a common PTR thing)...
BUG:
Characters that are copied from Live, as well as characters created directly on the PTS, do not have access to the costumes that their Live versions do - any unlocked-by-in-game-item or C-Store-purchased parts/sets are inaccessible, making usage of the Tailor or Nemesis Editor essentially impossible for players whose characters use non-Silver/unlocked parts.
There must be some way to set things so that those who use the PTS don't lose usage of the parts obtained via Live - some sort of flag that gets kicked-in upon copy, for example, that tells the PTS server "Okay, this person has access to A, B, and C unlocks, and they've bought X, Y, and Z sets" and then the PTS and Live servers can synchronize their parts lists.
Did you mean to say on or off? I ask because I'm sure I'm already using those settings turned on on live and just wanted to be sure if I was hearing they should be on or off.
This right here 1000%. Auras won't be a problem (unless you already have the more broken UI systems of player names and damage floaters turned off) on players' PCs.
I've also seen it when the particle cap has been met on games like STO (where I swear it's smaller than CO is) - it looks just horrid when things like everyone's energy weapons just fail to render. I for one wish I could increase it past 200%.
Yeah, that's how it's always been. Huge oversight if you ask me. Prevents one from really testing a lot of extra stuff, including the LTS vet unlocks, since it can't even see if a player is a LTS or not. So, unfortunately, you can't test or use C-Store costumes there and if you wanna test out item costume unlocks, you'll have to copy with an unused unlock item first and look at it there, the PTS acts completely seperate in all the right ways and wrong ways.
One thing I've noticed (and I say this being a new Gold, so I don't know if this is a problem specific to this build, or a common PTR thing)...
BUG:
Characters that are copied from Live, as well as characters created directly on the PTS, do not have access to the costumes that their Live versions do - any unlocked-by-in-game-item or C-Store-purchased parts/sets are inaccessible, making usage of the Tailor or Nemesis Editor essentially impossible for players whose characters use non-Silver/unlocked parts.
There must be some way to set things so that those who use the PTS don't lose usage of the parts obtained via Live - some sort of flag that gets kicked-in upon copy, for example, that tells the PTS server "Okay, this person has access to A, B, and C unlocks, and they've bought X, Y, and Z sets" and then the PTS and Live servers can synchronize their parts lists.
Yeah, that's how it's always been. Huge oversight if you ask me. Prevents one from really testing a lot of extra stuff, including the LTS vet unlocks, since it can't even see if a player is a LTS or not. So, unfortunately, you can't test or use C-Store costumes there and if you wanna test out item costume unlocks, you'll have to copy with an unused unlock item first and look at it there, the PTS acts completely seperate in all the right ways and wrong ways.
That is an almost-painfully-stupid "oversight" that is WAY overdue for a fix.
Yeah, that's how it's always been. Huge oversight if you ask me. Prevents one from really testing a lot of extra stuff, including the LTS vet unlocks, since it can't even see if a player is a LTS or not. So, unfortunately, you can't test or use C-Store costumes there and if you wanna test out item costume unlocks, you'll have to copy with an unused unlock item first and look at it there, the PTS acts completely seperate in all the right ways and wrong ways.
The PTS is no longer connected to a Z Store server which is why they don't work. Having a server dedicated for a PTS version of that store is not something PWE wants to invest in, which is the very reason they got rid of it in the first place.
That maybe so, but they've shown that Debugger can hand Z-store and Drifter items out, they could do something like that more regularly, or just release those items as normal to the test server rather than treating them as store items. Since the PTS is so separate from live, it won't have a negative finatical effect on them at all and won't require a seperate Z-store server, beside since it's just a test server anyway, it should be free for testing, so they might as well be treated like everyday costume pieces there. There are work arounds, they just have to decide if offering good customer service to paying customers is worth it. Also it's not just about the z-store stuff, no account unlock items on live are reflected on test, it's just a big shame.
The PTS is no longer connected to a Z Store server which is why they don't work. Having a server dedicated for a PTS version of that store is not something PWE wants to invest in, which is the very reason they got rid of it in the first place.
Character select screen never displayed anything that is not a model attached to character skeleton.
Nothing really changed in this matter. Technically new auras aren't costume parts, but effects from devices. Which is also why some of them doesn't scale with character models.
1. Gentlemen, this is The Undiscovered Country...past precedents can be a marker but they can also be a barrier to be shattered. ;:cool:
2. Since Cursed/Scourge/Tako, and various other costume bits with effects CAN and since Auras are to be cosmetic...yeah, I'm calling for "always on" to show up in the character select screen.
P.S. Still also calling for that universal light switch On/Off toggle for all auras on the aura page too.
2. Since Cursed/Scourge/Tako, and various other costume bits with effects CAN and since Auras are to be cosmetic...yeah, I'm calling for "always on" to show up in the character select screen.
Difference is, those auras on bracers and eyes are part of costume item models. They are attached to the same bone as rest of these costume parts.
Suggestion is nice - IF it is easy to made. For now I suspect that what can be seen on character select screen aren't even our characters for real, but only their costumes. Which is why any other state save for actual costume parts aren't carried to this screen.
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Did you try using the right mouse button?
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You have to hold down the right mouse button to drag them. Otherwise it might be buggy.
Confirmed. That did work. ...I'm left wondering why though xD
Thanks guys
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This UI weirdness will be cleared up in the next patch.
Thanks for clearing that up, Lordgar!
I'm sure you guys are aware of the bug where some auras when placed in the combat slots will blink out immediately after combat instead of fading away?
And thanks for popping in on Thanksgiving!
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I think it -may- be intended just to help along the aura sales.
(I have the feeling I am dreadfully wrong when I post this :P)
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Thats... interesting. Assuming that we have a reasonable sample size... 16 crates in 240 boxes is 2 crates per 30 boxes. Assuming LOW values, thats 50,000Q per 30 boxes, or 1,666 Q per box.
Probably wont upset the Q market much, but it is interesting, inasmuch as the Q income would offset about 10% of the Z cost per-box.
Problem with the auto-level-scaling on it, I think.
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All Auras placed in Combat Only slots poof roughly a second after you've left combat. I think the Aura system is only checking for the combat flag while the Passives waited for 3-4 seconds after the flag went away to have the aura shut down.
Not really sure if that's a bug or by design or not.
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THis is a travistry!!!!
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Legion gloves of offense only has +68 to offense making it only as good as the scr gloves of offense after slotting in an r9 impact prism. Hope the devs could fix this.
This is not true. Snow cloud, rune hands and runes head faded after combat instead of a blink (there and just gone in less than a second). IMO fading makes the auras much more awesome and increases the immersion factor. It may be that only certain auras fade and others blink, or those that blink are missing some effect as their fading animation.
If the blink is intended, it's so sudden that you don't get to bask in the glory of your character after they've ripped out the entrails... I mean... defeated and sent to jail... an enemy... Basically, the blink isn't the greatest of aesthetics and its a little disappointing considering everything the auras offer visually.
I hope it is a bug of some sort.
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I really love the new Santa outfit. It has a lot of bits I've been wanting for a while, from a more awesome Santa hat, to a full beard, to the nifty jacket and pants. It just has some minor issues I'd like to see addressed. I also like that this costume comes in one piece from the lock boxes, instead of having to piecemeal it out. That really helps us players out a lot.
One thing:
Have you guys considered doing a new questionite store or maybe a drifter's salvage costume set? I'm about vehicled out at the moment (none of the new content uses them) and I'd love to spend some alternate currencies on a new costume set or two.
Oh, and one way or another, you guys should really address the aura pricing issue, or this is going to turn into a debacle that will unnecessarily sour the communities mood on these new, and quite awesome toys.
But I like this piece. I have a toon that is an evil doll/toy and I put up a suggestion 2 1/2 or 3 years ago.
P.S. It used to be if a toon was transferred in to the PTS wearing a costume piece, it was unlocked on the PTS. Please return this feature.
I got the jacket and gloves to work just fine, though I went to the treasure chest and put them on there. Maybe that makes a difference.
I already brought that up. I wonder with enough people running 8 auras on a Clarence fight if you can crash the entire zone or at least a few people's computers. Can't wait to try it on live.
We give our feedback on other things, why is giving feedback on ridiculous aura pricing wrong? Honestly, I can't imagine people are going to choose the legacy auras over the new ones all that often anyway and an $8-$9 price tag isn't going to help.
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I thought as much, I remember seeing this brought up by yourself and others, the more worrisome thing, is that we cannot actually test it on PTS since, to my knowledge, Clarence is not active.
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Could always get a group of people to attack the dummies in the PH while all having as many auras as possible. If then everyone could give their system specs and the fps impact I bet the devs would be interested in hearing about that, they even literally asked for performance information in the blog post.
By default, the jacket loads via the base model. The problem with that, is that it isn't fitted properly to that model, and creates clipping issues. If the jacket is worn on the jacket chest type there is no clipping, but you can't wear the gloves.
As I said, this would be fixed either by fixing the clipping issue (harder) or changing the glove to the short glove slot (easier.) I advocate for the latter.
There will however, be an issue with anyone using multiple of them having either their auras or powers becoming invisible because they're hitting that hard coded particle FX limit (especially with more complex, layered auras).
The UI is the most massive source of FPS drop in the game anyhow, player names or anything else above people's heads will often cut frame rates in half or more if enabled with enough players clumped in one place.
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This right here 1000%. Auras won't be a problem (unless you already have the more broken UI systems of player names and damage floaters turned off) on players' PCs.
I've also seen it when the particle cap has been met on games like STO (where I swear it's smaller than CO is) - it looks just horrid when things like everyone's energy weapons just fail to render. I for one wish I could increase it past 200%.
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BUG:
Characters that are copied from Live, as well as characters created directly on the PTS, do not have access to the costumes that their Live versions do - any unlocked-by-in-game-item or C-Store-purchased parts/sets are inaccessible, making usage of the Tailor or Nemesis Editor essentially impossible for players whose characters use non-Silver/unlocked parts.
There must be some way to set things so that those who use the PTS don't lose usage of the parts obtained via Live - some sort of flag that gets kicked-in upon copy, for example, that tells the PTS server "Okay, this person has access to A, B, and C unlocks, and they've bought X, Y, and Z sets" and then the PTS and Live servers can synchronize their parts lists.
That is an almost-painfully-stupid "oversight" that is WAY overdue for a fix.
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The PTS is no longer connected to a Z Store server which is why they don't work. Having a server dedicated for a PTS version of that store is not something PWE wants to invest in, which is the very reason they got rid of it in the first place.
Auras have never been displayed on the character select screen in the past. So its not a bug.
We've had always-on auras in the past? :O
Nothing really changed in this matter. Technically new auras aren't costume parts, but effects from devices. Which is also why some of them doesn't scale with character models.
2. Since Cursed/Scourge/Tako, and various other costume bits with effects CAN and since Auras are to be cosmetic...yeah, I'm calling for "always on" to show up in the character select screen.
P.S. Still also calling for that universal light switch On/Off toggle for all auras on the aura page too.
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Suggestion is nice - IF it is easy to made. For now I suspect that what can be seen on character select screen aren't even our characters for real, but only their costumes. Which is why any other state save for actual costume parts aren't carried to this screen.
Yes. Add auras on/off switch to video options.