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  • tilartatilarta Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Another one of those things that works in theory, not in practice.

    When I'm hopping across 10 different maps looking for the one boss who is NOT on cooldown by the time I return the leecher has also returned and reset the boss again.

    Also, memorizing 13 different cooldown schedules and what maps they are on is a bit impossible.


    And really, I hate spending time online/ingame just to be logged in and watch a timer tick over.

    I do it so much in Star Trek Online, I really don't want to do it in other mmos.

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  • fudgemonstafudgemonsta Posts: 1,591 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    Another one of those things that works in theory, not in practice.

    When I'm hopping across 10 different maps looking for the one boss who is NOT on cooldown by the time I return the leecher has also returned and reset the boss again.

    Also, memorizing 13 different cooldown schedules and what maps they are on is a bit impossible.


    And really, I hate spending time online/ingame just to be logged in and watch a timer tick over.

    I do it so much in Star Trek Online, I really don't want to do it in other mmos.

    http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=190761

    This is a delicious little device that was made exactly for Bloodmoon.

    And I'm rather sure that Leecher is the incorrect term for what you are trying to say. The word is 'Player'. I rarely ever see any Undead Hero stay up longer then two or three minutes, unless its Crusher or something.
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  • tilartatilarta Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Not sure at what I am seeing there.

    It looks like a timer for the main event mission.

    Not sure how that helps me with the bosses.


    And when I switch maps, I'm inevitably too far from the bosses anyway.
    I usually run or fly there just in time to discover the Farmer (is that a better term?) has just killed the boss in the time it took me to bookmark the location and run to it.


    And really, I don't believe they deserve the dignity of being identified as Player.

    What they are doing is loot farming, impure and simple.
    They're collecting all the special items, taking them straight to exchange and selling them.


    My tolerance for that kindof behavior ran out long ago when an organized farming group kept removing a certain boss from the state of play.

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  • fudgemonstafudgemonsta Posts: 1,591 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    Not sure at what I am seeing there.

    It looks like a timer for the main event mission.

    Not sure how that helps me with the bosses.

    You could, you know, put the bosses respawn timers in there...

    It's...Not that hard to figure out.
    tilarta wrote: »
    And when I switch maps, I'm inevitably too far from the bosses anyway.
    I usually run or fly there just in time to discover the Farmer (is that a better term?) has just killed the boss in the time it took me to bookmark the location and run to it.
    Farmer also works, I guess.
    tilarta wrote: »
    And really, I don't believe they deserve the dignity of being identified as Player.

    What they are doing is loot farming, impure and simple.
    Isn't that what 90% of the game is? Beating guys up to grab the teeth they drop? There reaaally isn't anything wrong with farming at all. Look at the 5k kill perk rewards.
    tilarta wrote: »
    They're collecting all the special items, taking them straight to exchange and selling them.
    And if people don't want to try a few rounds to get them, they can buy them instead. Its all about time vs money. Lots of money but no time? Buy the device. Lotsa time but no money? You can easily get a couple devices in an hour or two.

    The saturation caused by the few people doing the above lowers the price by quite a chunk.
    tilarta wrote: »
    My tolerance for that kindof behavior ran out long ago when an organized farming group kept removing a certain boss from the state of play.

    Difference is one is a single instance(Zone) and a couple hour long spawn timer, the other is a 25 minute wait with a high chance of dropping the device for anyone who participated in the open mission on multiple zones. During Bloodmoon, you can usually see six or seven.

    Hell, they even have channels set up for the spawn orders of guys. Go take a look at them, easy way to get in the chain.
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  • flamingbunnymanflamingbunnyman Posts: 2,035 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    And really, I don't believe they deserve the dignity of being identified as Player.

    What they are doing is loot farming, impure and simple.

    Gee thanks. Nice to know I rank so low in your esteem.
    They're collecting all the special items, taking them straight to exchange and selling them.

    No, not all of us farmers are dirty capitalists trying to gouge the honest players. I've been farming the heck out of Goblin in the hopes of scoring a few Supernatural Possession devices so that my girlfriend - who is Silver, and thus restricted to ATs - can have heals on her characters who can't get one. Because I don't have a ton of Resources, and even if I did, there aren't that many available at the moment.

    Don't assume malice when a better explanation exists - like hundreds or maybe even thousands of players trying to do the same thing as you, often for similar reasons to yourself.
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  • stoopidmestoopidme Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Tilarta, I don't get what is so unique about you or your situation that you are incapable of doing what others manage quite happily.
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  • wesleytansgwesleytansg Posts: 863 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Tilarta, there is absolutely nothing wrong with farmers and they are every bit legit. They work for their share of the rewards. Farmers are common to almost all mmos and they are a large segment of players whom I will say drive the economy in-game.

    Your issue is with missing the respawn time but the sequence of respawn is usually blasted in main because more players attacking the bosses means a faster farm and as long as you get a hit in then you have a chance for the drop. Why are you bookmarking the location anyway? If there is a particular device you are after then you should be familar enough with the location of that particular boss. I hope you have at least an R3 travel power.

    Cosmics are very different due to the long spawn time, lack of instance and the low drop rates.
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,163 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Oh Goody-Goody, the game became intolerable Laggy since the Event started again!
    I chose the wrong time to come back
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  • tilartatilarta Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    To clarify, there are two kinds of people playing Bloodmoon.

    The players who are genuinely after items for their own personal need (or someone else's) and the ones who are the Farmers, who are just flooding the market with items for their own selfish goals.

    Or to acquire a rare Bind on Pickup item for their own ego.
    I won't mention what item it is that they keep blocking me on, since I know CO players well enough to know they'll bombard me with unwanted build advice etc.
    It's enough to know that item is not available in Bloodmoon, but elsewhere.

    But as far as Bloodmoon goes, the items I know I was most blocked on was Amazing Grace and Nimbus of Force.

    For the life of me, I could only get like 1 out of maybe 20 engagements up because the exact same group of farmers was running around resetting the spawns all the time!
    I know it was the same group because they were following the leader and always at the same location I was heading towards.


    That's why I'm sour of the whole Bloodmoon experience now, even with the best planning, I'm just running around chasing inactive timers.
    Like I said, I have better things to do to dedicate days to chasing rewards.


    By the way, it is force of habit for me to disable Zone chat whenever I pass through that map, because I'm just so sick and tired of the inane and idiotic babble I see whenever I'm there.
    So if someone is blasting out a broadcast about whatever boss it is, I just don't see it.


    Also, I was vaguely considering obtaining a Slicemaster Chainsaw, but I couldn't find any data on what that is.
    The only information I could find was it was a pvp item, so why they're talking about it in the Bloodmoon Blog is confusing me.

    Also, I suspect it's a not a power item, but a bind-on-pickup charge based item.

    Which would explain why I can't find one on exchange.


    And yes, I did try for the Zombie perk in pvp that grants a similar item, but I'm so far away from 10k zombies, I doubt I'll ever get there.

    Not that it's any more practical, the last time I queued for that it didn't pop and I had to logoff without getting my zombie kills.
    avianos wrote: »
    Oh Goody-Goody, the game became intolerable Laggy since the Event started again!
    I chose the wrong time to come back

    Here's a tip I found useful.
    It worked for me, but not sure if it will for you.

    I disabled the names and titles of all players except for my friends.

    And voila, Lag be gone!

    Why the names of player and their titles should be a cause of lag with all the special effects going on, I have no idea.

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    Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad :'(
  • fudgemonstafudgemonsta Posts: 1,591 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    But as far as Bloodmoon goes, the items I know I was most blocked on was Amazing Grace and Nimbus of Force.

    For the life of me, I could only get like 1 out of maybe 20 engagements up because the exact same group of farmers was running around resetting the spawns all the time!
    I know it was the same group because they were following the leader and always at the same location I was heading towards.


    That's why I'm sour of the whole Bloodmoon experience now, even with the best planning, I'm just running around chasing inactive timers.
    Like I said, I have better things to do to dedicate days to chasing rewards.

    Oh yeah, Nimbus and Grace. The two most watched ones because one gives a travel power and Nimbus gives a decent shield.

    I gotta be honest, what I'm seeing is you being miffed about is 'How dare they know what they are doing and have it work for them!'

    Seriously. If you see the same group of people at each one, every time, then they obviously know where they are going. Hit the Social button, put in one of the peoples names that are there all the time, and follow them to the instances. Ride that farmer straight to your Nimbus goal.

    Or, if you are super desperate, I got like four of each of those devices. Gimme 100g's and both are yours. Super cheap. :tongue:
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  • gansetseggansetseg Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    But as far as Bloodmoon goes, the items I know I was most blocked on was Amazing Grace and Nimbus of Force.

    For the life of me, I could only get like 1 out of maybe 20 engagements up because the exact same group of farmers was running around resetting the spawns all the time!
    I know it was the same group because they were following the leader and always at the same location I was heading towards.

    That's why I'm sour of the whole Bloodmoon experience now, even with the best planning, I'm just running around chasing inactive timers.
    Like I said, I have better things to do to dedicate days to chasing rewards.

    Wait, you're angry because people are running around, killing all the bosses, and you ASSUME they must be farmers? And that these farmers don't deserve to be called players?

    Holy balls, do you have any idea how arrogant and butthurt you sound about all this?

    Farmers, love them or hate them, are a legit part of the game and play a hefty part in the game's economy. And they have to work hard to get the drops, because they're pretty much totally random these days. I've had a character at the top of Nimbus' list and gotten crap, and a character on the bottom of her score list get two Nimbus of Forces in a row. I don't do it for farming, I do it for fun. And if I've got to sit down and wait for ten or fifteen minutes for them to respawn, then what the hell. I can grab some water, play with a pet, read a book or an article or something, then come back in time for the gate to close and the hero to reappear.

    Sometimes you've just got to be patient. Just because some players are running around, wrecking the undead heroes over and over doesn't mean you get to decide if they're players or not. If it's that much of an issue, you need to try playing at a different time or wait a day or two when everyone's mostly milked the Blood Moon. Towards the end, you'll find only four or five people working over a boss.

    As for people mobbing Amazing Grace and Nimbus... Duh? They're pretty much the best drops in the Blood Moon. You can't get angry because everyone wants what you do, especially if they've got the patience to sit there and wait while you furiously switch instances trying to find the one thing that's open for the three minutes it takes to murder either one of them.

    tl;dr: Good things come to those who wait.
  • nextnametakennextnametaken Posts: 2,212 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Another wonderful event to bring people together.
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Okay, I'm not complaining here, I'm just asking to find out if it's just my account...

    Is anyone else having trouble getting the BM Perks? I can't seem to get Perks for defeating Firefight, Crusher, Radon, Eclipse, Johnny Hercules, Flechette II or Vanguard.

    Also, I'm about halfway to DeadReckoner, should I keep going or is that Perk bug as well?

    Again, not complaining, because bugs happen, I just want info. Thanks.
    I got perks for Nimbus and Goblin last night.
    vizzone wrote: »
    I had difficulty getting the perks on my tank. I believe you have to score at least 100,000 to receive credit, but you can get around it by teaming. As for Dead Reckoner, it should be working. If you aren't already, try entering crypts until you find one of those patches of earth that zombies will endlessly climb out of. Speeds farming up considerably!

    To roughbearmattach and vizzone:

    Thanks for the replies and the advice.

    I waited until the initial Bloodmoon rush died down and got good enough scores to get all my Perks and even got top honers once or twice. I'm guessing that using a 40th level Tempest at the hours that I was online (between 12 and 1 AM EDT) also helped me completely fill my dance card over two night - er - mornings?

    Now as far as finishing up Dead Reckoner - Turns out not a lot of folks seem to need the Perk or are looking for Tiger's drops, so I spent about ten minutes or so just zapping the zombies until I was nearly at a thousand before another Hero came along and decided that Tiger needed to be stomped upon. :smile:

    Anyway, thanks again, guys.
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey--I can confirm that the perk-granting is spotty.

    I beat Amazing Grace three times, and only got the perk on the third try.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey--I can confirm that the perk-granting is spotty.

    I beat Amazing Grace three times, and only got the perk on the third try.
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  • cellarrat33cellarrat33 Posts: 399 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Hey--I can confirm that the perk-granting is spotty.

    I beat Amazing Grace three times, and only got the perk on the third try.

    IIRC. You need to do significant damage to the undead hero to get the perk. Unfortunately, I don't know how they (Cryptic Devs) define significant. So if you get to the party late or are just totally out damaged by other players to the point you only do 0.01% damage, you may not get the perk.


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  • neuraldamageneuraldamage Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    tilarta wrote: »
    But as far as Bloodmoon goes, the items I know I was most blocked on was Amazing Grace and Nimbus of Force.


    By the way, it is force of habit for me to disable Zone chat whenever I pass through that map, because I'm just so sick and tired of the inane and idiotic babble I see whenever I'm there. So if someone is blasting out a broadcast about whatever boss it is, I just don't see it.

    Haha I can't speak for Grace but I enjoyed stomping the crud out of that undead abomination Nimbus. If it kept you from getting what you want... good, come back next time and I'll do it again.

    Really, if you can't bother to employ all the tools at your disposal to be successful at what you want, you really shouldn't come whine about not getting your way. It makes you seem like a spoiled brat.

    Btw, every NoF I earned went to an alt or a friend, so bite me. :tongue:

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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Happifun happened to be passing Amazing Grace last night; only one person was fighting her zombie-army precursors, so I joined in. When the final tally went down, I had accounted for just over two-thirds of all damage dealt; the only drop I got was the UNTIL box.

    So, obviously the good drop doesn't necessarily go to the high scorer. Next time this comes around, if you see the one you want up, just join in. Do what damage you can. The special drops are randomly assigned to one person somewhere on the damage list.
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  • beldinbeldin Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    gansetseg wrote: »
    Wait, you're angry because people are running around, killing all the bosses, and you ASSUME they must be farmers? And that these farmers don't deserve to be called players?

    Not the forget that the farmers seem to do exactly the same thing than what he tries to do, so he seems to be a wannebe farmer who only is to slow to reach the spot in time, or can't remember where to go next.

    Tip : Just use Excel or maybe Notepad, and write down the timer and Zonenumbers, and then try to be there 2 minutes before the fight begins .. Problem solved :wink:
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  • jadetorajadetora Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    gradii wrote: »
    to be fair there are the REAL farmers, and the GRIEFERS. I ran into one of the griefers this bloodmoon. I also saw some real farmers. the griefers will hide and do nothing to help until the boss comes out, or some other disgusting shtick. real farmers will help you if you make it there in time. if you get there and the cooldown is reset though, its too late to judge.

    It's so hilarious because one furry player cursed us out and called us a 'cheapa@#' for using our vehicles Gravity Pulse to clear out zombies quickly to more quickly get to the boss fight which isn't cheap, it's efficient.

    He then proceeded to put us on ignore before we could respond, cementing his lulzy butthurtedness over nothing.

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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Who cares? If you do some damage to the boss, you get a shot at the special drop.
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  • beldinbeldin Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Who cares? If you do some damage to the boss, you get a shot at the special drop.

    In that case this will of course support leechers or griefers or whatever. In the end its always the same .. whats good for some is also bad for some. When was that changed by the way ? But nonetheless i would ever try to get my top 10 spot :wink:
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    It changed over a year ago. Rewards are now done this way for events. Blood Moon, Halloween, and Christmas all work this way, as did the Mega-D invasion (before crashing), Nighthawk, and Harbinger.

    I like it a lot more, because it means I actually have a shot at getting a rare item. Before, I just never made toons that would be in the top 10 DPS on these events.

    For the open missions, like Mega-D, Prison Break, etc., the top person gets vendor trash and recog, whereas everyone else just gets recog.
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  • nemez1snemez1s Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    hope to get an halloween bloodmoon soon.
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  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    nemez1s wrote: »
    hope to get an Halloween bloodmoon soon.

    Well, those only come around at the end of October during the true Halloween Event. And you can go Trick or Treating in addition to the doing the Bloodmoon Event activities.

    Check this out.

    The Trick or Treat perks.

    I love collecting Rocks. It's so Charlie Brown. :biggrin:
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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,395 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I managed to pick up Nimbus of Force, Center of Gravity, and Archer's memory all last night after reading this thread. Took me 3 tries to get Nimbus of Force, but with three quick map changes, I managed to do that within a half hour. Center of Gravity and Archer's Memory I got on my first try. The only time I was top scoring was against Vanguard (and that's because I was the only one there). I've concluded that collecting the drops from bloodmoon really isn't that hard if you're willing to put in a bit of effort.
  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,395 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well, those only come around at the end of October during the true Halloween Event. And you can go Trick or Treating in addition to the doing the Bloodmoon Event activities.

    Check this out.

    The Trick or Treat perks.

    I love collecting Rocks. It's so Charlie Brown. :biggrin:
    You can go trick or treating now. I was collecting rocks yesterday :D

    Also I see my Everlasting Grondstoppers have a time limit. I wonder if Lional Hutz would take my case? I do have a rusty bird cage in my attic he could have . . .
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