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wesleytansg
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Well, last night I was having drinks and discovered some friends who play computer games. I immediately took the opportunity to recommend CO to them. I shared about the costume creator the power options with freeform. I told them I can power level them and get them a freeform slot. But in all honesty I also had to share with them that the game is not given sufficient attention. But I still encourage them to try the game. This is a true account. Share what you have done for this game.
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Pretty much this.
Deliciously nutritious!
Why?!
Because he is aware of how depressing the lack of updates kills a lot of the players' enthusiasm. He never wants to get invested into something that has a visible dead end.
I was just minding my own business harassing wildlife with a slingshot and stale movie popcorn, when a group of ninja field mice attacked me from behind and dragged me here and threatened to break my tail if I didn't play.
That or my some friends and old clan members from a game that was shutting down talked me into it.
Pick one and be happy. =3
So, you're the one my ninja field mice found!
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Bah who am I kidding, I have no friends.
They played it Once, Unistalled it and never played it again
and with the current state of the game, I'm pretty pessimistic by myself to keep playing!
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I got my brother to subscribe for 600 days. He's played for about an hour that whole time. Yeah we did the tutorial and he called it quits but didn't unsubscribe.
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They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
My brothers groan and give me crap when they see I'm still playing it. My friends just laugh and ask why. That's not the reaction you want.
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at lest 10 friends have tried it... NONE... NONE of them kept playing... not enough content (seriously in 2 weeks you can do pretty much everything) no updates besides lame 1 shot events... yeah...
I stick tot he game for the RP friends i have and cause it is the only superhero game on which i can keep playing my own chars as i want them to be...
That said... if a game comes out with better customization options for both powers and costumes... I'll jump ships in a heartbeat... because right now i don't think this mess can be fixed. I wish they could turn things around and make this the epic game it deserves to be...
Part of the problem since December, 2012.
I think its more a case that they dont care to. Easier to just pretend the game doesnt exist, rake in as much money as they can with minimal effort, and go back to pretending they care about neverwinter.
Now between you and I, Cryptic has two of the world's biggest nerd IPs in history sitting in its lap. Whatareyagonnado? And if I had to put all of my sentiments aside as a producer or publisher, I wouldn't focus the core of my resources on the Champions IP either. We fans would cheer, while the rest of the world stared on in bewilderment at our terrible priorities.
I've become a fan of the IP, I wish things were different, and I bet Cryptic wishes it had the resources too. You have got to be nuts if you think PWE or Jack Emmert or Cryptic enjoys all the lost potential and bad press over Champs. When Champs was in development, they had every intention of eclipsing City of Heroes in every way. More people ought to see this for what it is. Put on your Hat of Clear-Eyed Reason and see it for what it is: people are doing what they can with what they have. It's an unfortunate thing with Champs, but most of its potential, both mechanically and in terms of lessons learned, is being realized--elsewhere. In bigger properties, bigger draws, with vast, ready-made fan bases. It's easy as fans to scoff at that. But what if you were steering that ship?
A lot of people have complained that Cryptic ought to focus on the IP it actually owns, but imagine if you had the awful position of explaining that idea to your publisher? "I don't think we should pursue the Star Trek or D&D franchise opportunity, boss--how about we start a kind of grass-roots advertising and PR blitz to build interest in this great little pen and paper game we own?"
Good luck with that.
I've been subscribed to CO since City of Heroes closed. I don't regret it, but I do wander off a lot. I don't think it has the retention power that City of Heroes enjoyed, but few games do.
I don't say any of this with malice. I love Champs! Sure, I hope it gets a second chance at stardom. That would be great if it could happen.
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But now, I don't really think I should recommend CO to my friends. At least, not until Cryptic fixes some errors.
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The irony that I've actually accused other people of looking at this game with rose colored glasses.
Champions Online: Be the hero you wish you could be in a better game.
Those who liked the game are either gold or went full LTS
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I do not have a single irl friend who still plays this game, and I recommend it every time someone's looking for an mmo they can play, free or no. Everyone always takes me up on it, because I know how to sell this game realistically and where the strengths are, but none of em ever stays.
Funny story, the most recent knackering to my efforts is account guard. It keeps sending em codes to their legit emails, many of which I've watched em sign up with, that never appear. After a while, they give up on support (if the code doesn't get there, you think the support emails are? Yea, I know to check spam etc...) and quit BEFORE EVEN PLAYING.
Fantastic, that is. Wonder how many people that's cost us.
RIP Caine
Too much fashion clothing(costumes) for so few parties(content) to attend. I understand that superhero games focus more on customization and less on content than fantasy games, but in CO they took that idea to the extreme.
No customizing hideout layout. (never finished)
No super group advancement. (should be a given in any super hero game)
No custom sidekicks. (same reason as SGs)
No active nemesis presence. (abandoned)
No more unique in-game loot to acquire. (Devs don't understand why crafting was so cool. Instead they remove that, mission rewards and open mission unique rewards.)
No continuous lore progression. (Everything beyond Vibora, except the APs and comics of course, is lacking follow up treatment and the care of writing that was hidden throughout the game.)
No new areas to explore beyond what was put in the game at launch. (Vibora included)
More content was removed from the game than was put in since On Alert went live. THAT is why my friends won't play the game.
Damning but honest
To paraphrase Eliot Lefebvre, Champions tends to use 3 systems to do what other games do with one. This isn't necessarily bad; in fact, it might be good if most choices were cosmetic or if there were no bad choices. However, the wide power disparities in builds demonstrates that this is not the case.
If I just tell someone about the game and let them loose on their own it seems like they inevitably pick an archetype with low survivability (pretty much any one that lacks a defensive passive or a heal). They then proceed to faceplant their way through Westside, getting increasingly frustrated. Sometimes they see the big queue for alerts on the right side of their screen and join, assuming that since it's available it is appropriate for level 8. They then faceplant as usual against the boss while a freeform (or even just a high DPS AT played by someone with more experience building) kills the boss before they can even run back up to it. I know it's tempting to just say "L2P N00B!!!" and let them quit the game, but consider how frustrating it is for them.
Interestingly, the one complaint that new players have that seems similar to old players is lack of content. However, new players who are complaining about this usually haven't played a tenth of the content in the game. Their problem is different; they ignore all the actually good content and just spam alerts while running Millennium City missions. This is because the game has so many different names for what is essentially instanced missions (regular missions, help-a-citizen missions, alerts, comic series, adventure packs, lairs, crisis zones, unity missions, etc.), and because it's all spread out and not easily searchable by level.
If I hand-hold someone through the game, playing with them and explaining all its weirdness it generally goes better, though they still dislike the bugs and the over-advertising of vehicles.
@Thompkins
I liked playing end-game content for rare costume drops or devices....they took it out.
There are many reasons why i get very...VERRY angry when they remove anything...and everytime they do, it is usually the only thing any veteren has to do anymore!
The game is being stripped of anything worthy to do...end game barely longer exists.
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When i intro a friend to this game...i tell them the truth...the game is terrible as an archetype, the real fun only begins when you get a freeform slot...that is the real start of the game. Everything leading up to that, is a waste of your time and life.
And what happens if they play? The same as always...they get to around level 15, and quit because of how boring and unbearable it is.
If they only knew freeform...
They get bored with anything else CO has to offer right now after about three minutes of looking over my shoulder. Those few that ever even made it ingame got bored witless in a hurry by the atrocious tutorial, which feels like it doesn't just assume you're new to CO, but to MMOs in general, and quite boast limited experience in even turning opn a computer. (Oh, and they all hate the hare-brained "streamlined" CC with a passion, if I#ve shown them the real CC before.)
Sorry ATs aren't fun for your friends, but I have a different perspective.
While I am now subscribing and have several freeforms, I started as a Silver player with FFA and played a glacier to level 40 and an inventor to 20ish before I subscribed. I had a great time.
I agree that freeforms are the main draw of this game. However, getting my glacier to 40 over the course of a year, playing through the content slowly and learning the systems, I had a blast.
I had a lot less fun powerleveling my last freeform alt to 40 in a single day, and now there is pretty much nothing new to do with him as well.
I completely agree we need endgame & challenging PVE content. But the first run through the content, post FFA on an AT, was fun enough to keep me here hoping things will improve. As I am not lifetime, this situation could change any month.
@Thompkins
Maybe when Cryptic puts in some real effort I will too.
I don't think I can convince them to come back to a Cryptic game ever again.
Not unless something happens that makes the head of Cryptic and PWE realize just how good this game is and what it can become. They make enough money to keep adding to this game but don't.
I'm not gonna try to promote this beyond supporting the players already playing it unless these things happen:
2 new zones (Yeah. Not just 1 more, anymore.)
Interactive systems to support player with player beyond teaming and combat. (SG base with advancement. Sidekicks)
Foundry
And a system where the Community is asked to work with the devs to influence the game's progression.
It seems like a tall order, but only from the bottom of the deep hole Cryptic put us in. Its drained me of my will while they coast on the On Alert system that was promised to help bring the game into new content and a level cap increase.
Foundry combined with Nemesis would i'm sure help those who feel the lack of story and especially personal story diminishes the playing experience.
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Stop pretending you have friends.
Who needs to pretend when i have friends all over the place. I keep them well informed, they keep me well informed, we play together when there's something to do, and go play other games when we dont. We have our arguements, we have our agreements.
Go back to school junior.
4 of them have run off to DCUO...sigh.
I tried, i even let a good friend use one of my two accounts (FF) he said "Not enough updates or new content to stay" i had no rebuttal.
Sad but too true.
That's awesome. No need to be agressive though, I was feeling sorry for you.
But you should ask your friends to run Alerts with you so you wouldn't have to insult puggers.
Of course there is no need to be aggressive, you said something completely untrue and i corrected you, a good idea would be that you take your own advice and do not be aggressive to others.
I dont insult puggers, i insult leechers, there's a massive difference. I can solo any alert whenever i choose, but when people start leeching, i choose to not solo it for them.
The friends I started with have moved on. The friends I recruited now question my taste in games, and have moved on as well.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
OMG this. I tihnk it's pretty telling that this isn't brought up much. This game is reamarkably easy. It's almost as bad as some of the tripe PWE tries to pass off as mmos (some of their games are brain dead kind of easy). It's one of the top 5 reasons Cryptic and Emmert should be embarrased as game makers.
The only person I've gotten to play this game is my brother and we're both off and on about the game and like most people, we are only here for the character creation.
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