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Dear Cryptic,
I don't know if you knew, but I've had my eyes on your game in a way you did not know for many years.
I have been looking at your game closer than mos, and been witness to many things gone to waste. Here is where I will show them. Then you will understand why I feel the way I do.
This is not to shame, only to refresh your memory; to show that the team that was there before had some ambitious goalsthat were scrapped and left their work buried from the public eye for eternity.
EDIT: This environment was used in Steel Crusade on September 2014. It will no longer be referred to as the Maw.
Maw Encounter
The PvE Survival map Robobo promised
I don't know if you knew, but I've had my eyes on your game in a way you did not know for many years.
I have been looking at your game closer than mos, and been witness to many things gone to waste. Here is where I will show them. Then you will understand why I feel the way I do.
This is not to shame, only to refresh your memory; to show that the team that was there before had some ambitious goalsthat were scrapped and left their work buried from the public eye for eternity.
EDIT: This environment was used in Steel Crusade on September 2014. It will no longer be referred to as the Maw.
Maw Encounter
The PvE Survival map Robobo promised
Brou in Cryptic games.
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Lemurian Invasion Comic Panels
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This is just a sample of grand things left to rot.
I want these...
We don't have enough negative threads about things that have absolutely no purpose but to chase away new players.
Please.. by all means, keep up the good work.
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...this Clone War has.
The Art of Champions Online.
I still have my "Art of The Empire Strikes Back" and "Art of TRON" from 1981.
You can bet I'd keep 300 pages of Champions Online concept work, realized or not.
It took 35 years to see some of Syd Mead's orignal TRON designs visualized in TRON: Legacy and TRON: Uprising, with similar time frames for designs from Star Wars to finalize into a cartoon, movie, game, comic book or toy.
Dumont: All that is visible must grow beyond itself, and extend into the realm of the invisible.
Yeah.
The Nemesis system needs fixing and here's ideas:
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Maybe posting this on another forum would be more appropriate?
Or have people reached the point where getting banned isn't a worry anymore?
Doesn't mean either of those games is a disappointment, just because some of the more ambitious visions proved to be too ambitious - and the same holds for CO.
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Maybe you should fall off a cliff while climbing mount Everest instead of posting on the forums. At least then you could have died while working toward some sort of goal in life.
Does that answer your second question?
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Not a single Pigg was extracted to do this.
I am running gameclient.exe with no modification, therefore playing.
Oh, and those of you calling it concept art: they are dynamic comic panels. They were sitting in that group with the rest of the panels from Aftershock and other content, and in their own folder, ready to be hooked up to the cutscenes and encounter, but nobody did.
They even had little sprites for the laser and some foreground drills/parallax. Really cool.
Funny, Kaizerin's power videos don't look like "initial hand-drawn artwork" to me.
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I think this stuff is very close to the thin line...
If the world was Planet Hocofaisan and you had your way, I'm sure you would not hesitate to silence the slightest criticism of this game.
I'm willing to bet real money that you won't be able to come up with a logical reason as to how it's bannable.
This is all great looking stuff. I'm sad to see that the vision that they set upon to create did not turn out quite as epic as it could have.
And I do think it could have been that great. After all, Didn't the Vibora Bay apocalypse deliver on a feeling of epicness?
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And the Harbinger actually defeated rather than some unepic defeat "animation" to go with the comic panel? THAT would have made the whole thing feel epic alone.
But what I would have wanted the most was to see those drills break the surface and mobs come out while you defeat them.
Although I never heard/remember anything about this "maw encounter".
... That is what you're trying to do, right?
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Yes, yes it is. Also the Apocalypse Aversion quest/mission/lair. The final fight with Therakiel has to be one of the coolest battle grounds in existence.
PS: To those in this thread, you might want to look at this initiative.
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
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Oh please, as if the doomcalling wasn't bad enough I don't know why the couple of you have chosen to be 'Brou-beaters', but you're looking at it the wrong way. If anything this exposes that there is someone still around capable of producing awsome stuff for CO, if only the stick could be removed from the posterior of whomever is stopping them. Maybe the stuff getting found and appreciated can make that happen...somehow? (I havn't got a clue how.) Brou hasn't done anything wrong and its not like he hasn't done this before..and the last time he did we got more heads for the bubble helmets. If they do for some childish reason deside to punish him and/or remove demorecord, it'll just show us how lost the place has become and we can all go find someting better todo.
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I don't think a lot of these are from truly missing powers. They look like development animations that where accidently left in by someone sloppy(possibly named Steve), and some of them look like they where actually used. The third one in on the claw vid looks like hurl. Theres the original thunderbolt lundge in there too that was chaged to pounce I belive, the the one maked new_claw_lunge looks a whole lot like mighty lunge. Some of them look like the starts to grappling anminations too. I has heard someplace that they had tried to put wrestling type moves in, but they didn't work out technically somehow. Perhaps some of these orphan animations are fallout from that? Some may have also just have been censored for being too violent, like that 'stick your hand in their chest' animation..doesn't really fit under the same bar as the rest of the game.
@X-Hero Game Overed.
UNLESS the final battle gets bugged and the pillars don't get destroyed and they don't go away when he goes into Apocalypse mode.
Then it's just weird.
Even ignoring the fact that it's sad they're weren't realized, leaving them there to take up space is almost as bad. It's like they just stopped and forgot about it, there's no cleaning up, no optimization, just leaving the remains of any half-started work flying in the ether of your hard drive.
The Maw looks pretty boss, too.
Bad enough you can make a clone costume and name a character "Wolverine"; worse if you can make him act and move like him too. That may have been too much for legal to allow.
I hate to have to state the obvious, but Wolverine didn't invent hitting people with claws, it's been around since ancient history. Fighting stances and flourishes for claw and punch dagger based weapons are all very similar to one another, what with the limited attack range having claws/blades attached to your wrists or hands entails.
About the only one I can see being blatantly Wolverine is the "Claws_Out" animation, which seems to undoubtedly be a leftover possibly from when the game was being developed as a Marvel IP. Obviously, because we don't have any sort of retractable claws because I guess Wolverine invented those (even though he didn't).
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Looking at things from a legal standpoint is not always synonymous with looking at them from a common sense standpoint.
marvel did not, actually, win their court case when they tried that on coh.
^This.
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However, intellectual property law is pretty clear where toons created by a third party are concerned; the part that isn't utterly clear is whether the person hosting the website should share responsibility in a legal sense, but Cryptic has (have?) decided to give themselves an out by a) declaring such creations to be a violation of the Terms of Service, and b) enforcing those Terms of Service, once someone has reported the violation.
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I love the summoning animation! (near the end of the video)
That would be sooooo cool for a wizard or witch character!
That bug seems to be most frequently caused by using the Vladic Dracul portal crystal with members on the team who haven't done the previous bosses.
Why?
Hell if I know, it just does.
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
Does your Champion have a theme song? (share it!)
Got a funny in-game screenshot? (share it!)
Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)
The story of Champions Online - On Alert. :rolleyes:
Except, counselor, that's not what I suggested. My point was that if you add the nixed animations to the already tenuous naming and costume creation ability in Champions Online then you've got an even stronger case than Marvel had. That's not any similarity, that's significant similarity.
Luckily, we'll never know what difference the animations would have made as they weren't considered, but we both can certainly speculate all day long about it.
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If its on your computer, especially if they didn't clean up after themselves and patched it into your client, they are legally allowed to do whatever they want to that piece of software as it has now come under his own private property rights. He can mod it, hack it, delete it, put porn in it doesn't matter. The only thing he cannot do, is redistribute it etc etc. If anyone lies and tells you that modifying their client on your computer is illegal, promptly slap them and walk away. As long as you are not breaking US law by redistributing or the companies own Terms of service that they can detect then theres nothing anyone can do about it.
People have been pulling out Riot games files for champions and art since forever, as long as they're dumb enough to send it to your computer/client then they can't do **** about it. They put it in your files and forgot to clean up what they aren't using etc. Riots fault.
Now if you go and find a way to get malware into Riots servers and start hacking into their studio engine's and computers, then yeah legal action can be taken and you're breaking the law and the TOS at the same time.
TOS is not the law, never mistake that, all it does is create an invalid contract which gives them the right to deny service to you at any time.
On the wallpaper section of the website, on the second and third page, you can see the Aftershock comic panels for the Supreme Serpent, Ripper, Witchcraft and Defender. But there's also a comic panel of Sapphire done in the same art style.
Was Sapphire supposed to have lines in Aftershock?
Whoa, better watch out then. Champions might be getting sued for all those Deadpool...I mean Dual Blades animations any minute now since they just added them recently...as in nearly 4 years ago...
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In my line of work it helps to be able to see things from a legal point of view sometimes. In fact it can make you somewhat paranoid, having to ask so frequently, "How could I be sued today?" We have so much mandatory compliance training we should be able to practice malpractice law.