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  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    ok last vote im changing , i do this manually you know
  • pugdaddypugdaddy Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jasinblaze wrote: »
    ok last vote im changing , i do this manually you know

    Thank you, I appreciate it.
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  • rokurocarisrokurocaris Posts: 1,074 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Bug fixes are difinitely the most important thing. The game is full of "minor" bugs and issues that can spoil one's individual gaming experience. They would be really easy to fix, actually, if just one dev would take the time to finally do it!

    Hiring more devs would help greatly, of course. But that is up to PWE. They control Cryptic's resources. And it looks like they are not willing to invest.

    So, my votes go to

    1) Bug Fixes
    2) Foundry (possibly including custom SG Bases!)
    3) Nemesis Expansion
  • zysalianzysalian Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1) Bug Fixes. No use to put in anything new when old stuff doesn't work properly.

    2) New Zones. Gives all kinds of new stuff to do.

    3) Foundry.
  • squeeepsqueeep Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Nice work tallying things up!

    My vote's for bug-fixes.
  • smoochansmoochan Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    here's my votes.


    #1 - Make gameplay more engaging. ( too much 1 shotting of npcs and stand-there-and-spam going on atm ).


    #2 - Extend solo Nemesis content.


    #3 - Create new, longer, more-involved alerts ( i.e. Lair alerts, with new bite-size lairs )




    I would vote for bug fixes, but honestly other companies can work on new content while fixing bugs, and I expect CO to be able to do the same.

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  • misterjustmisterjust Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1 - Review of PVE content (lairs, comic series, adventure packs, open missions, cosmics) particularly to balance the rewards for doing that stuff. Too many people sitting in Alert queues, doing NemCon Q runs, not doing the more challenging stuff. No point adding shiny new content if people ignore it in favour of old and busted low effort content with the big rewards.

    2 - Purchasable account upgrades for silver players - power tinting, global cap raise, tokens to upgrade silver character slots to freeform.

    3 - Supergroup bases, put organised community groups at the centre of the game.
  • lucyinspacewithdiamondslucyinspacewithdiamonds Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    heh... People think new zones are more important than bugfixes.
  • xaogarrentxaogarrent Posts: 632 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    heh... People think new zones are more important than bugfixes.

    No, no we don't. We think the idea of treating bug fixes as features or content is absurd: Bug fixes are something that should be constant and taken for granted.

    ...I just recently realized something really disturbing. We're all eating Sodapop3's "humble pie."
  • dynamechdynamech Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1 - Add to current maps (how about some alternate quest lines in MC, Canada, and OH PLEASE THE DESERT!!) There's that DEMON oasis in the desert that has no purpose, large sections of Canada overrun by ACTUAL demons with no purpose, there is absolutely ZILCH to do with the assortment of gangs in MC once you're level 12-15 and they take up so much of the skippable map space ... I would love to see a new zone, but I'd expect it might be a wee bit easier to maybe come up with something else to do with what you have.
    2 - New Map (I'd love to see a glitzy techno ultra-tokyo, a mystic china realm similar to what we saw in the Hi-Pan mish, the moon, or even someplace that doesn't exactly dovetail with what we have already, like warring (fictional) territories in Africa or someplace in or around something interesting like Ayers Rock.)
    3 - SPECIFICALLY Fix Darkness for villains / nemeses.
  • baroness1980baroness1980 Posts: 268 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1.- Foundry
    2.- More Nemesis content (New missions, personalities, custom minions, etc)
    3.- New Zones


    Bug fixes are not new content... bug fixes are constant tweaking... don't think they should be included on the list, since that is something that should be worked on all the time.
  • royalflvshroyalflvsh Posts: 166 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1) The Foundry
    2) More Zones
    3) More Nemesis Content
  • kulchatilakulchatila Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1.bug fixes
    2.level cap increase (More power go with)
    3.more hideouts/hideout features
    4.supergroup bases
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    kulchatila wrote: »
    1.bug fixes
    2.level cap increase (More power go with)
    3.more hideouts/hideout features
    4.supergroup bases
    fourth vote ignored follow the rules
  • agentnx5agentnx5 Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    This has not changed for me...
    x5's all-important prioritized list:
    1. Bug Fixes. Self-explanatory. Find 'em, squash em. If there's one that is beneficial, consider tweaking it and making it official, but don't leave bugs and exploitable glitches in your software.
    2. New explorable content. Jasin, you have this split into too many subcategories, which weakens the importance of this... New Zones, new nemesis content, the foundry, more endgame, etc. ALL comes under this heading for me
    3. Consolidate currencies. We need just 4 types: gold/resources, zen, questionite, and recognition. Acclaim needs to be converted to Questionite, perioid. (other currencies can become a form of recognition with the ability to manually convert from any type to another at fixed rates))
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    agentnx5 wrote: »
    This has not changed for me...
    x5's all-important prioritized list:

    1. Bug Fixes. Self-explanatory. Find 'em, squash em. If there's one that is beneficial, consider tweaking it and making it official, but don't leave bugs and exploitable glitches in your software.
    2. New explorable content. Jasin, you have this split into too many subcategories, which weakens the importance of this... New Zones, new nemesis content, the foundry, more endgame, etc. ALL comes under this heading for me
    3. Consolidate currencies. We need just 4 types: gold/resources, zen, questionite, and recognition. Acclaim needs to be converted to Questionite, perioid. (other currencies can become a form of recognition with the ability to manually convert from any type to another at fixed rates))
    its not me splitting them up, its the others
    i try to keep them all together as 1 as much as i can, if you think you can do better make one yourself, which i would encourage. clear concise group statements are harder to ignore and have fewer excuses when they are.
    pick one

    the purpose of this thread is to say what the group wants most right now, right or wrong its what they want. i try to stay away from specific powersets or 1 single problem but content is different, i actually want new zones not nemesis addons , i want to go to new places not run around more in the same area, so i definitely see there is a difference

    as for currency i agree
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  • blazer2001blazer2001 Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1 - Bug Fixes
    2 - The Foundry
    3 - Costumes
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  • neuraldamageneuraldamage Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    WHAT? NO rework the chat system??? :eek:

    Where is this massive cry for reform that I keep reading so much about? :wink:

    I'll go:

    1 - Foundry.
    2 - Bug fixes.
    3 - New zone.

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  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    There are plenty of votes for what I consider my top three, so I will add in some new ones:

    -More freedom with the tailor (in other words, some of the 'bugs' that allow cool stuff need to stop being fixed, and there should be more flexibility with less worries about 'clipping'.)

    -More weapons, especially since there are so many in the game we have yet to have access to.

    -FACE PLATE MASKS.
  • raighnraighn Posts: 2,339 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1: Fix Bugs

    2: Passes on Existing Powersets

    3: Currency Rework


    The most important thing right now is resolving the bugs that have remained in the game for years now, as well as squashing new ones. No new content should be added until the game has had it's large number of known bugs addressed and fixed. All new content must then proceed to go through a LIVE GRID BUG TESTING phase after release BEFORE work on the next new content project begins. This release and forget strategy that seems to be in place is part of the reason so many bugs exist in the game today. If fixing the mass number of bugs in the game requires a large overhaul of the server code then do so. Don't make excuses about dev resources or needing to release new content, the players would be more than understanding of a month or so of halted content production in exchange for bug fixes and a server overhaul.

    The current powersets need to undergo a mass pass. Rather than the current set by set approach an approach of all at once would prove more beneficial. The set by set approach is frequently resulting in the most recent powerset to get a pass being the most useful powerset.

    Currencies... there are to many of them and most of them should be account based rather than character based. The only currencies that should be character based are Resources and Questionite Ore. All Recog and Questionite should be on an account-wide balance. The older outdated currencies should be converted to either Recog or Questionite (not Questionite Ore), any items available in the remaining vendors of these currencies should be transferred accordingly.
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  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    There are plenty of votes for what I consider my top three, so I will add in some new ones:

    -More freedom with the tailor (in other words, some of the 'bugs' that allow cool stuff need to stop being fixed, and there should be more flexibility with less worries about 'clipping'.)

    -More weapons, especially since there are so many in the game we have yet to have access to.

    -FACE PLATE MASKS.
    kind off defeats the point, letting the existing vote influence you
    this is not a suggest as many as we can thread, what are your real top 3
    clear winners are actually desired

    your vote is
    1 more costumes
    2 nothing
    3 nothing
  • taintedmesstaintedmess Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Hmmmm

    I would like

    1. More powers (provided there not using some kind of weapon)
    2. Another Zone/Area
    3. Costumes many many costumes

    and I don't want any of it to involve lock boxes.
  • taintedmesstaintedmess Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    heh... People think new zones are more important than bugfixes.

    Yup. Nothing but big fixes = boredom
  • raighnraighn Posts: 2,339 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Yup. Nothing but big fixes = boredom

    when bugs that existed at launch are still present untouched in the game today, then yes... Bug Fixes are more important than anything else. And I'm sure if you really stop and think about it you'd be willing to take a month or two of no new content to get the existing content to actually work properly.
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  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    please only vote here start a thread to argue somewhere else
    :)
  • malvoumalvou Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1. Zones
    2. Bugs that we report and still stay there for months
    3. Foundry.
  • gaslockegaslocke Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1st vote - 3 points - Fix Bugs
    2nd vote - 2 points - Fix Bugs
    3rd vote - 1 point - Fix Bugs

    Before you think I'm being funny, I want to stress that nothing in the OP list will matter much if bugs prevent folks from enjoying them. I'd much rather have just a little new content that works rather than a whole lot that doesn't due to being riddled with bugs, but that's just my personal preference so take that with a grain of salt.

    But, if you don't allow the same pick multiple times then my alternate list would be:
    1st vote - 3 points - Fix Bugs
    2nd vote - 2 points - Fix/Improve Become Device Power Tray Icons
    3rd vote - 1 point - Add/Improve Zones

    Normally I wouldn't have bothered about the become device as those things were relegated to a very minor part of this game, but with the recent update it seems the Devs are heavily trying to make become devices a prominent part of this game's content so I figure if so, I should at least point out the singular issue I have with them that stops me dead in my tracks from enjoying them and hence throwing money at it.

    Note:
    Recently someone mentioned that this game is down to only four Developers, I have no idea whether or not this is true, but if it is, I guess that severely limits just what sort of future content we can hope to expect coming down the pike. I suppose my first two votes are low hanging fruit and my 3rd vote for new zones is likely out of the realm of possibility.

    Ashlocke was my original forum name but was unable to keep it during the PW forum migration. *Shakes Fist* :frown:
  • bjoernrbjoernr Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    This all brings nothing!
    Cryptic first have to fix the combat/difficulity!
    In this game you are in godmode with a good freeform build!

    Edit:

    1. Foundry

    2. More powersets

    3. Bug Fixes
  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,138 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jasinblaze wrote: »
    too specific for this polls purpose
    votes 1 and 2 condensed to
    passes on existing powersets
    and vote one seems to list multiple ideas

    Ok so to recap:

    1- Passes on Existing Powersets

    2- New Explorable Content

    3- Foundry for CO
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jasinblaze wrote: »
    kind off defeats the point, letting the existing vote influence you
    this is not a suggest as many as we can thread, what are your real top 3
    clear winners are actually desired

    your vote is
    1 more costumes
    2 nothing
    3 nothing

    And your polls are usually:

    1. Eliminating things you don't understand or comprehend.
    2. Consolidating things into broad catagories.
    3. Tailored to what you want.
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    And your polls are usually:

    1. Eliminating things you don't understand or comprehend.
    2. Consolidating things into broad categories.
    3. Tailored to what you want.
    and you try to make a podium where ever you go
    so you dont like my poles ill take them away,*ssh*le
    btw id put both my ingame and real world knowledge over yours anyway
    so i dont have time for this crap anymore, sick of bad attitudes poisoning the forum like you
    all polls closed
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jasinblaze wrote: »
    and you try to make a podium where ever you go
    so you dont like my poles ill take them away,*ssh*le
    btw id put both my ingame and real world knowledge over yours anyway
    so i dont have time for this crap anymore, sick of bad attitudes poisoning the forum like you
    all polls closed
    "I'm taking my ball and going home."

    It was criticism. Good luck putting any knowledge of yours against mine if you can't take that.
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i am stubborn and over emotional i know, im a an artist with spanish blood, what do you expect.
    but you attacked me personally and now you shy away
    for those that know me, they know me to be smart, fair and calm.
    but jerks like you you get my anger
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I am 'shying away' because I don't think you comprehend what I meant, and to be honest at this point I don't even care. I'm too old for this.
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    And your polls are usually:

    1. Eliminating things you don't understand or comprehend.
    insulting my intelligence
    , assuming that because i don't agree with your presentation i must not understand it.
    2. Consolidating things into broad catagories.
    that'swhat polls do
    otherwise its just another suggestion box

    3. Tailored to what you want.

    tailoring it to general categories for the masses
    not what i want, i want costumes , costumes and more costumes
    which wasn't even in the top 10
    by being specific you weaken the results. having been on the other side of this equation. when you poll, you want general not super specific
    making too many distinctions spreads out the votes
    and makes the poll pointless
    making new suggestions because what you really want is already getting the vote also weakens the point of the poll,
    but you want your soapbox so you must be right.
    remember you started this with personal insults presented in a passive aggressive manner. and i dont accept that
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    If it's a personal insult, then by all means man up and report it. Otherwise, I believe you were trying to take your polls and quit?
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    man up and tattle? where are you from?
    men must be different there
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    They're literate, which is a start.
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    They're literate, which is a start.
    i thought you could care less, yet here you are again
    now you are inferring that i am illiterate?
    yes you are a jackass
    don't mistake my emotions for lack of intelligence.
  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1. fix mission bugs
    2. make a pet cat AF for me or a pet dog for those with no taste
    3. Give me a fire extinguisher to use on people have flame wars :) A BIIIG ONE
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  • smoochansmoochan Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I think the problem started when someone started taking this poll too seriously.

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  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Eh, to hell with it.
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    which was probably both of us
  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    1)Lockboxes
    2)more Alerts
    3)more new gadgets that cater to small groups of players.
    #Mechanon!(completed) #New Zones! #Foundry!
  • jasinblazejasinblaze Posts: 1,360 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    bwdares wrote: »
    1)Lockboxes
    2)more Alerts
    3)more new gadgets that cater to small groups of players.

    sounds like a dont list
    btw i closed this poll due to the childish behavior by someone and myself
  • lucyinspacewithdiamondslucyinspacewithdiamonds Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Bug fixes should be neglected? That doesn't sound like good company policy. I think we see now why Champions Online isn't as popular as it could be.
  • agentnx5agentnx5 Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I was going to check up on the progress of the poll, because I'm curious to see the feedback, but it's.... gone?

    Then I saw the flamewar on the previous page and was like :-O

    Um... Can haz results plz? :smile:

    Cryptic should be doing polls, but they've been too lazy or inept to even do such simple attempts for feedback all Fall of this year, so it was nice somebody was doing polls.

    jasinblaze wrote: »
    for those that know me, they know me to be smart, fair and calm.
    but jerks like you you get my anger

    Well mostly calm ^_^, you're human you can get riled up like anyone else. Removing the poll results entirely seems a bit drastic of a response to one pesky troll. *shrug* C'est la vie!

    But yes, I can vouch on the smart & fairness aspects certainly. One of the most fair & neutral people I know of in the game, he is. Kohgan, XMTSX, Telefusious (aka. KING or David Bashmen), and Forgerofsouls being there at that level too.

    I'd also add certainly add "generous" to the list of positive qualities for people like Jasinblazing and Cloudsatdawn. They have routinely displayed that quality, and I'm thankful for that. Makes for a community that's more like a family, where you don't worry about exact values, and all the nickel & diming.
  • twg042370twg042370 Posts: 592 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    agentnx5 wrote: »
    Then I saw the flamewar on the previous page and was like :-O

    That's weird that this happened because mods are usually on top of these things like white on rice.
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  • chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    some of the other current argumetns have been keeping them busy.

    seems to be troll and fire season.... wonder if we can heard the trolls into the forest fire...nahhhh burnt troll spells funny:biggrin:


    come on..... pweeeesssse put the results back, we'll be good little trolls... I mean readers. well by good, I mean not particularly evil

    *rereads post* ok better get something to eat before I keep reading forums
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