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How vehicles should be, but won't be, launched (In my opinion.)
keikomyst
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Every subscriber should get to choose a free top-notch vehicle from the first wave. (after all, you didn't release grav bikes, so those can sell for pretty pennies!)
Garage in Westside opens up as a vehicle customization station, allowing you to customize your vehicle similar to hero customization, with colors, chassis choices, how guns look, etc. etc. The garage should also have missions relating to vehicles. Vehicle customizations cost resources.
Vehicles are outright available on the C-Store in their varying tiers. 500 zen for the low tiers, 750 for the mid, 1000 for the high-end ones. All vehicles can be taken to the garage for paintjobs.
UNTIL Sky Carrier appears as its own zone with areas that can also be used to RP, with the Mega D event being an open mission. UNTIL Sky Carrier can also be used to access appropriate adventure packs.
Vehicle missions appear all over the world, with vehicle mods and customization unlocks available as rewards.
Two new PvP types are added: Racing and Dogfighting. Racing plays like a party racer, and attacking other players with weapons you pick up stuns them. Dogfighting is just vehicle PvP, free for all in the skies. More vehicle PvP variations to be added later.
Special customization unlocks are available in the Drifter store and in grab bags/lockboxes.
... but none of that is gonna happen. We're just gonna get the UNTIL Carrier Defense alert (which will be over in ten to fifteen minutes) and vehicles we can't even color.
Garage in Westside opens up as a vehicle customization station, allowing you to customize your vehicle similar to hero customization, with colors, chassis choices, how guns look, etc. etc. The garage should also have missions relating to vehicles. Vehicle customizations cost resources.
Vehicles are outright available on the C-Store in their varying tiers. 500 zen for the low tiers, 750 for the mid, 1000 for the high-end ones. All vehicles can be taken to the garage for paintjobs.
UNTIL Sky Carrier appears as its own zone with areas that can also be used to RP, with the Mega D event being an open mission. UNTIL Sky Carrier can also be used to access appropriate adventure packs.
Vehicle missions appear all over the world, with vehicle mods and customization unlocks available as rewards.
Two new PvP types are added: Racing and Dogfighting. Racing plays like a party racer, and attacking other players with weapons you pick up stuns them. Dogfighting is just vehicle PvP, free for all in the skies. More vehicle PvP variations to be added later.
Special customization unlocks are available in the Drifter store and in grab bags/lockboxes.
... but none of that is gonna happen. We're just gonna get the UNTIL Carrier Defense alert (which will be over in ten to fifteen minutes) and vehicles we can't even color.
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Put Colorable Pattern Model Packs, Emblem Packs and Thingamajig Vehicle AddOn Part Packs to Z-Store. Make people pay for them.
People want to customize their rides, not ride around with dozen same looking vehicles, in a game that has 1 point over others, CHARACTER CUSTOMISING.
Cryptic/PW missed the grand point of this game by a gazillion miles.
And playing by myself since Aug 2009
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I personally think going to the garage to customize your ride is a great idea... as well as having "vehicle costume sets" and what not, but like others have said, it's not gonna happen.
The thing is though... if I can't even color it to fit my hero, I'm not going to buy one.
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while I am not trying to defend the current model. However, since the hawkwings were at 1500zen at the zstore, it would not be consistent to have the top tier vehicles at 1000 zen.
Cosmic keys is a clever still stealthed way to increase prices of stuff at the zstore.
I think this is the second pass on vehicles so I would expect some of those feature currently missing to be implemented in the next pass.
For you wipper snappers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGTZLuuTPi8
It would be nice if subscribers actually had their subscription count for more. Even simple things like:
I was already planning racing stuff, and I've done it before in another MMO. It's a lot of fun.
Yes, it's the appeal of this game to the niche market it fits in. I agree with you. I mean even Call of Duty and Halo 4 have customization, but nowhere near the level it is for Champions Online!
/facepalm
No, this is going about it wrong... I disagree. I think this might explain it simply enough for you to comprehend:
I agree. In fact having the current jets being so FAST is what I love most about them. Fun to fly.
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I don't quite understand where the disagreement is coming from. If your disagreement is based on the opinion that vehicles should be travel powers, even so travel powers are customizable to some degree. I don't see a problem in taking it a step further by allowing vehicles to have different customizable parts.
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That's not what I disagree with, and I thought what Yogid0nnie said would make it clear where my disagreement is. I guess not. I don't know how I can put this any simpler, don't replace the superheros.
Champions Online, not Vehicles Online. There are better games out there for vehicles, if that's what you're really into playing. Heck racing games with vehicles is it's own genre even, not that you can't have fun with that in another game (example). Most importantly, I would argue that the niche market for this game, which is small compared to most MMO's let's be honest, is around the whole superheroes schtick.
You can disagree with my opinion if you want, but vehicles are taking a step away from being superheroes. Superman doesn't need a plane or a tank, he's better than one. Other heroes might do better in a tank or a plane though. The point is it should be on equal footing. The direction this is heading, and what worries me from having seen it in other games and ruin said games, is having it to where all you need to win is a vehicle. I know they are restricted for now. I know they aren't overpowered in damage now. But it could VERY easily head that way in the name of "revenue profit", as the whole grab bags thing showed us. Just telling people, if you don't like it don't buy it isn't going to do anything, because people with the means will always want the newest shiny thing. Pandora's Box has been opened.
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I mean, it's not like Batman has an entire stable of the dern things - oh, wait...
Well, it's not like the Fantastic Four have some kind of weird ship that comes apart into four separate attack craft -- um...
I mean, it's not like the X-Men have to fly around in some kind of modified SR-71 Blackbi--- wait a minute...
It's not like Ghost Rider, an embodied demon, has to rely on a motorcycle to get around -- hang on, this isn't working out...
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I think you posted this in the wrong thread. This thread is about HOW vehicles are being implemented (and what people would like to see from them), not that they are inappropriate.
This is a core quote from one of the most critical posters in the thread:
Not really a, "vehicles have no place in superheroics," sentiment there.
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Ok Cpt. Smartass, let me turn this around on you.
Batman always fights enemies from his vehicle-- oh, wait... Forgot about his boomerangs, martial arts, his belt gadgets, etc. etc.
When the Fantastic Four takes on Dr. Doom it's from their ship, never use their superpower-- um, damn I forgot when Dr. Doom totally wreck their ship in an air battle in the Silver Surfer and it's by transferring all their powers to The Thing so he can beat Doom and save the day...
I mean, it's not like the X-Men have to ever leave their modified SR-71 even if it's crashing to the ground-- wait a minute, forgot about part in X2...
It's not like Ghost Rider/ Night Rider / Phantom Rider ever needs to get of his motocycle and use his superhuman strength or ability to project regular and ethereal flame-- hang on, this isn't working out...
Like I said, equal footing. Vehicles, weapons, armor, other devices, etc. they are there to assist the hero, not BE the hero. Not replace them.
If you want to spend your time in the game just in your upgraded jet or tank or whatever, that's ok I guess (who am I to tell you how you have to play right?); but you shouldn't be able to do things no superhero can do. Same thing where if you want to use Gigabolt or Ricochet Throw and all things being equal Ricochet Throw makes Gigabolt look like a tier 1 power in comparison for damage potential (not to mention one self-roots, one doesn't), that's kind of imbalanced no? Let's not forget these new "powers" for the vehicles cannot be gotten in the powerhouse. They are not available to gold or lifetime members, without additional purchase.
That isn't really the issue at all to me. It's more of a "where is this heading" sort of thing, and I believe I already explained what concerns me more than once.
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
Does your Champion have a theme song? (share it!)
Got a funny in-game screenshot? (share it!)
Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)
Apologies for contributing to the thread drift, though. I would have completely approved the proposed introduction method here, although I don't think the part about one free vehicle for each subscriber would be economically feasible.
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And nowhere did I make that claim. :mad: Did I ever say that? No. I didn't.
You're going to sit there and twist my words around into a lie? Really? WTF man?
I'm pissed at you. Your apology should be made to more than just the OP.
Maybe try understanding WHY you are feeling that is what people are saying, and actually READ what they are writing, Jonsills.
Consolidate the currencies! (Please!)
Does your Champion have a theme song? (share it!)
Got a funny in-game screenshot? (share it!)
Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)