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PTS update FC.30.20120820.10
This build is scheduled to hit PTS by 2:00pm PST
Greetings!
As we wrap up work on the Nighthawk mission and the new vehicles, we'd like to give you all a crack at them before they go Live.
In addition to content updates, we're rolling out stability improvements that should reduce the amount of crashes (game server and client) that players have been experiencing.
Please format any bugs you find in the following format:
Bug
Where it happens
What happens
Critters:
-Fixed Gravitar powers balance
"Who Is Nighthawk?":
-Added more cutscenes!
-New "crime scene" location art
-Added contact dialog to areas around Nighthawk sightings
-Completing mission should now reward players with "Utility Belt" chancebox reward
Vehicles:
-Hawkwing vehicles are now restricted to larger, outdoor zones and maps
-Hawkwing vehicles should no longer explode on despawn
Stability:
-Fixed Guild-related crashes.
-Various stability improvements that should reduce client and game server crashes
This build is scheduled to hit PTS by 2:00pm PST
Greetings!
As we wrap up work on the Nighthawk mission and the new vehicles, we'd like to give you all a crack at them before they go Live.
In addition to content updates, we're rolling out stability improvements that should reduce the amount of crashes (game server and client) that players have been experiencing.
Please format any bugs you find in the following format:
Bug
Where it happens
What happens
Critters:
-Fixed Gravitar powers balance
"Who Is Nighthawk?":
-Added more cutscenes!
-New "crime scene" location art
-Added contact dialog to areas around Nighthawk sightings
-Completing mission should now reward players with "Utility Belt" chancebox reward
Vehicles:
-Hawkwing vehicles are now restricted to larger, outdoor zones and maps
-Hawkwing vehicles should no longer explode on despawn
Stability:
-Fixed Guild-related crashes.
-Various stability improvements that should reduce client and game server crashes
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Even overlooking the other bugs that cropped up, I've just been crashing a ton lately and it's frustrating.
yellow bubbles.
yellow bubbles everywhere.
Anyway, you guys are going to get around to fixing more of the bugs that came with the last patch, right?
...Right?
Also, I don't like picking up the reward box and getting the rarest thing on the PTS since its a wasted drop. =p
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They stated that the Nighthawk jets would be the initial way vehicles will be done, but there are plans for more customizeable ones later...
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translation, we couldn't get the real thing to actually work and it kept crashing the updates to live so we half assed it and did this instead.
Translation: They had this planned the entire time. They said somewhere a while ago or something that this was their plan. Nighthawk would be the launch of the very basic part of Vehicles, and that they planned a full on launch of them (with customizable powers and ship models and everything else) towards the end of the year.
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This was also tested with Epidemic, Gas Arrow, and Defile. None of these powers produced the same results. My conclusion then is that it's Gas Pellets.
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[insert Soviet Russia joke] :cool:
PVP is starving without rewards
1. Please give us Daily PVP missions that reward Questionite.
2. Please give us an exchange rate between Acclaim and Recognition so that PVP has access to all "On Alert" PVE rewards.
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The same like we should get more rooms in our Hideouts ? Personally i would prepare
for that we get some become devices .. and then even moar become devices and after
6 months we get wallcrawling devices or whatever else.
Do you ever get tired of being so negative?
I guess Guild Wars 2 sucks or something. Because Beldin is still here ******** instead of playing it.
That doesn't even make any sense.
Frankly, Cryptic has been pretty on-point in delivering the content they've said they were going to. The new Alerts, the new powers, the new Archetypes, and now the prototype Vehicles, which has been repeatedly pointed out, are not going to be reflective of the final system debuting later this Fall.
Cryptic has been getting their act together for a bit now, bugs and stability issues aside, and even those have been taken care of pretty quickly (aren't we getting a patch now to fix the stability issues of the last few days?).
Again: I'm believing Cryptic when they say that the final system is gonna be different. Why? I suspect that they have converted STO's Starship system to work for CO, which isn't too much of a stretch considering both of these games run the same engine at their core. So they've already had a major part of the work done for them already, and have probably just been tossing together new UI's, loot, and art assets for us.
vehicles .. for me its just wasted time where they could better finally start to give us
REAL content .. and that means for me : NEW ZONES.
Wasn't also always told that the whole item overhaul for On Alert was to make it easier
for a level cap ? Still a year ago a new Zone was a thing for the far future .. one year later
its still in the far future and it was shrinked from a full zone to an expansion of MC.
Next year we maybe hear we get in far Future something like the Mini-VB Questarc
somewhere in far Future.
I understand your optimism, but do you really think they would tell us if they made a coding mistake and that's why the updates kept getting rolled back? you can be a fan boy all you want Cryptic is perfect world now face facts and move on you'll feel better.
So adding vehicles which adds a whole new way of playing the game isn't considered "real" content to you?
Is it maybe because you personally have no use for them perhaps?
Not every content update to the game can please everyone, to be honest I could've done without the alert update, but it is still content and it did build upon the game as a whole.
I for one cannot wait for the vehicle system to be built upon!
No. What Bob said was exactly true. From the UNTIL Field Report posted July 20:
Is using a Become Mummy or Become Vampire new Content for you ? For me not, and
its also not "Be the hero you want", ist "be the hero they let you be".
And now "be the Spaceship they let you be" for me is even more nonsense .. they can do that
in STO .. but i don't want to be a Spaceship or a Car or whatever, i want to play my Hero.
Also even if it maybe fun to kill mobs in Canada or MI while beeing a Romulean Warbird,
i have played these zones full through now 32 times .. and it will still be the same zone.
So : Nope .. no new content at all.
Quit the negativity, some of us like vehicles and know (or at least trust) that cryptic will pull through and make them customizable (with custom colors and gear parts etc.) like they said they would.
My main character is Blackflight
I wonder however how many players would prefer Vehicles over new Zones if Cryptic would
ask us what we want them to do first.
Then play as your "hero" the way you always have, because vehicles are a choice of play, hence adding a whole new way of playing the game!
Oh and most "heroes" use vehicles, maybe you should accept that fact.
The devs have stated that when fully introduced these vehicles will not be your typical "become devices".
So yes this is new content, it's a fact!
How long have you been around? What Belding says is what I would expect as well. They'll realize vehicles aren't as big a hit as they hope they'll be and then abandon further development on them to move on to the next great system they think will sell. Look at CO, its littered with half finished systems, Nemesis, Unity, Unity 2, Hideouts, PvP, Comic Series, APs, scaleable lairs, Q-store costumes, etc, etc, etc. Have there been any news on upcoming alerts? That seems like a perfect system for them to keep adding tiny chunks of development into.
Top management fails to realize they need to FINISH something and KEEP ADDING TO IT for it to be successful.
I'm not sure that comparing Alerts to the Vehicle system holds up. Can you play Alerts using your character as you built him/her ? The character's build ?
Will you be able to play Vehicle exclusive content with your character's build ?
I love the idea of the vehicles. I have /signed or supported suggestions for them for years now. But at no point in the past in any of the pro vehicle suggestion threads (at least that I saw) was the request made for content exclusive to vehicle users.
There is no content exclusive to characters using Archery powers.
None that is exclusive to Fire users.
None that is exclusive to any other power concept in the game.
None that is exclusive to become device users of any sort.
I repeat, I love the idea of vehicles in game. I want them here. Beldin aside, most criticism of the system is not due to a lack of desire for them, but rather due to specific issues with the implementation.
Vehicles are more than just a choice of play as a character with a vehicle will have access to more playable content than one who does not.
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Does anyone know if they will be automatically available? Like will there be a stop NightHawk etc mission chain and somewhere along the line you are given one, and on completion of the mission chain you get to choose a vehicle? Or what? I am curious as I havent been following the vehicle movement.
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Not sure what went wrong on your side, but I tested gravitar and it was back to original, so it was fixed for me at least.
I have not followed the missions in PTS either, but even if you do get to play the vehicle for the mission, be sure it will only last the mission. This is too much of a cash cow to be given free. I doubt it will even be one of those super rare drops from in-game. They will likely be sold in the C-store.
I, personally would like to have a vehicle even if it is just a transform device. For concept purpose (yes I do have concept toons), some toons may just not have flight or teleport or darkspeed. The planes give that genuine feel of a hero on feet with a special transport. Of course I will certainly want much more customisation to shape and colours and designs so that we will not get fleets and fleets of similar planes soaring through the skies of MC. Not everyone want's a plane with a hawk nose afterall.
The much faster speed also means travelling across the open map at a much faster pace. Think grond hunt. The range of the weapons though is a bit of a problem. They will be like sniper rifles firing and killing cosmics who cannot close the distance. Will be nice also if they can have some simple form of animations and graphics for the transformation to a plane. Some shimmering light effect as the toon dissolves while the plane materialises. Kind of like a star trek beam down. So it will be like the plane gets beamed down and the hero gets beamed into the plane.
From here about tomorrow's patch:
http://co.perfectworld.com/news/?p=655701
You will get to play a jet for the mission (for free), you can choose not to if you want (bonus), and you will get a chance to get a free vehicle as a Become Device also for absolutely free for finishing it.
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Sounds wonderful except for the word chance...is it a fair chance? like 50% or so? or what?
Because I have a feeling that no matter which char I go on I will not get any vehicles..and I have at least 7 lvl 40's...so I can see myself being unhappy when I open the chance bag or whatever it is
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Vehicle content is done by the powers folks, not the guys who make zones...totally different...Unless they have the same guy doing both, then thats just REALLY poor management.
but, is that a bug that sneak just got removed from many characters and just comes with a buff that doesn't belong to them with some assasin techniques even if neighter buff and crime suits their initial concept?
A good fix would be greatly appreciated. When I was on chat at an hour where almost no one were on-line, I mentioned this and got 4 private answers of not being fair, and having catches, and demolished character concept and heroes from Gold members and users of Archetypes. I know the PTB like to promote new archetypes, but Sneak was there since about 3 years minimum if not from start.
So, it is kinda feels like a bugger when inventors can't become invisible, so scouts, so explorers, so invisible men, so ghosts, so multidimentional critters, so holographic, so other original hero concepts needing that can't be counted in with that characteristic simply because their buffs are too good on many levels, to turn to the dark side.
(BTW thanks for giving a try on vehicles or vehicle devices)
This is what is worrying for me, too.
And considering that there's 3 vehicles, it's only a one-in-three chance of you actually getting the vehicle you want, if it's a completely random mechanic at play.
So, to reiterate:
Potentially random chance to even get a vehicle
On top of-
One-in-three chance it's the one you're gunning for.
I really hope this isn't the case.
That's what build tabs are for. If you used sneak purely to be a ghost or something in RP, you can just slot nightwarrior on an alternate build tab and simply switch between your normal passive and NW when you're "sneaking" for RP purposes. It's still only one power pick, and actually you're getting 3 powers for one, which i cannot possibly consider negative...
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Wonderwoman uses a jet for Traveling .. but never for fighting .. the same is with
the Fantastic Four or X-Men. Superman .. Spiderman .. the Hulk .. never saw them
using a vehicle for fighting.
Yeah .. i recently saw Wasp in Avengers Earths Mighties Heroes fighting with a Jet,
but that was in for 1 minute .. normally the Avengers also use Jets for travel but
not for fighting .. and that is the big difference .. Vehicles as TP .. no problem but
not as a Hero replacement.
I personally want to see the tech advanced enough to allow us to use some of our own powers in combination to future vehicles. Swinging a heavy weapon or shooting pistols from atop a motorcycle.
Have a nice day Negativity
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Somehow I don't see other tabs there for it... or remedy for arthritis in the 6th finger if it is the problem in middle of action.
I think if they really wanted they could give them as a choice out of three? So TANK, DPS or SUPPORT jet type thing..that would be amazing *-*
But when I come crashing back to reality...I can see that this will end badly for me..oh well I have 9 lvl 40's to try on and none of them will get a jet...oh well as is life...
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LOL reminds me of the ff grab bags :rolleyes: :mad:
@Scrizz :biggrin:
Okok .. have fun with you BECOME Device for only 1500 Zen or buy some Crap-Bags then,
and believe further that you get the for free and that they the Become Device is just an
"initial state"
I'm not desperate enough to fork out $15 on a non-customizable jet when I stand a chance in a Grab Bag, on a daily I can repeat on ALL of my characters
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Also, being limited to Millennium City from 5-15 is going to get old quick since there are lifers still playing new toons. There's only so many times I can punch a purple mobster before I get tired of it. Maybe add something like a new starter zone? Perhaps Hudson City? It's in the actual game lore and you can have it be the darker place to start. In fact, if you can come up with enough "questionable morality" story arcs, it would make the dark hero types happy and make the long time players happy with a bunch of new things to do.
Here it would be enough to simply revert Canada back to level 6 like it was before On-Alert.
I already said that was a bad idea when they just came up with the idea before it went
on PTS, and i still think that was an absolut horrible idea.