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itsbrou
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This thread is an anthology of hateful tells you get in Nemesis Dockside Dustup for knocking the Nemesis.
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You must not post the name of the person who told you the quote, but you may post a rough description of their build or archetype. Also edit out profanity.
My quotes:
NO MORE KNOCKING!!!!!!!!!!
-Radiant AT
gratz behemoth
-????
There are a few rules:
You must not post the name of the person who told you the quote, but you may post a rough description of their build or archetype. Also edit out profanity.
My quotes:
NO MORE KNOCKING!!!!!!!!!!
-Radiant AT
gratz behemoth
-????
Brou in Cryptic games.
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"Hey carebear twatfacetangerinehead next time stop healing me and try say healing the inferno moron that got swatted out of the sky constantly I dont need your froob heals"
Some player called Nepht abusing her own brother.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
RIP Caine
A Might user while I try to put some distance in between me and the Nemesis.
Them: "STOP MOVING B****"
Me: "He's chasing me, even with smoke grenade. I'm squishy. Not just going to stand there..."
Them: "U SUCK NOOB HOE!"
Me: "Says the FAIL tank with NO lunge or acrobatics? lol wut?!"
Them: "IM LEVEL 10 B****"
Me: "Less QQ, more pew-pew."
Them: "IM GOING TO BAN YOU SLUT"
Me: "Less QQ, more pew-pew."
Funny thing is I've seen this very same person whining about how AoPM is overpowered and the avoidance cap is too low... Kind of pathetic eh?
I don't get much rage for knocking in Dockside Dustup because I just zap the enemies to death in a matter of seconds. *shrug* And if I'm using Might attacks, I build up their knock resistance with a few taps before doing fully-charged attacks
Doesn't bother me if they get knocked either, as long as it's not off the sides of the dock. It's harder if they knock the enemy when trying to keep stacks of focus or charge up a killing blow, but meh... I'm used to it I suppose and just keep lunging around like a spider.
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In another one, I got a guy telling me to stop the knockbacks, while I was doing knockups to build knock resistance on the target before I could really start DPSing.
The nem in question was a munitions build and was jumping around with Evasive/breakaway shot
I been a long time leaving but I'm going to be a long time gone.
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That would be great on a t-shirt
Brick_McDuggins in game.
Although people who complain about knock ups are just plain silly.
So I don't complain!
PFF on Nemesis in Alerts is however really overpowerd .. i never get one of those down :mad:
heavy weapons tank : stop knocking you noob
Me: tank then and keep him off me
heavy weapons tank : stop stealing aggro then
At this point I will say my grimoire with a crit can maybe cause 2500 damage with a single hit and about 200 a tick with skarns bane.
fire dps: ffs tank stop talking and do your job tank
We failed this alert because we all died many times except the tank who was either blocking or self healing.
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As for hating on the gadgeteer, I can understand seeing him/her once in a bluemoon, but when its 2-3 times in a row, that should be a sign to just change the powerset.
The only time I bother to complain about knock is when they aren't using knock up to build resist first and just sending targets all over the place with reckless abandon.
It does irk me when folks kite around across the map when its clear they've got solid healing support and can tank it. I've been the dps stuck tanking with and without the healing support it shouldn't be that hard to figure out.
There's so many things wrong with Nemeses not having knock resist. First off, a lot of times I'm trying to build knock resist, the Nemesis won't get a stack. Havoc stomp to 75% five times in a row, nothing. Then I pump a haymaker up to like 15%, and finally get a stack. So I'm doing crap damage trying to figure out this knock riddle for so much time. I'm not "allowed" to do any real DPS until I've knocked the Nemesis around a bit. Lame.
Second, after a while, the Knock Resist buff stops showing up. When this happens, the Nemesis sometimes goes into perma-knock-resist mode, but you can't tell unless you try to knock them.
So once that icon disappears, I'm wondering, should I charge all the way, or do some taps to see if he knocks? It's all pretty stupid.
I'm trying to find the "sweet spot" in range :biggrin:
(50-60', for quick move ins for Lightning Storm, and maintainted Lightning Arc's)
Some arse says :mad: : So, i stopped using LStorm, moved out to 99', and took damage like a REAL gamer...
...At range
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I sent back a message questioning why anyone who went AFK for most of a smash would be so angry to be called on it -- I know if I had to go AFK because of an emergency, I'd be more understanding when my teammates were unhappy and would be more apologetic -- but I was suddenly on his Ignore list and my reply was lost. Oh well.
And I'm Might, so the nemesis alerts are a bit of a pain. I can tap Haymaker. and I do have charged Demolish, but it hardly does the same competitive damage as other meleeists who have effective access to more of their powers. But you cope.
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Then you're just as dumb, no offense. That crap is just as annoying, honestly.
I can't tell you how many times before confronting the Baron where I'll say "Please remember to NOT attack him when he blocks" and then people like you attack him when he blocks and die.
Or rather people like you also are explicitly told "Please don't revive, it will lock you out! I'll be happy to resurrect you if you fall (try not to die though)" and then you die, and like a food you click revive, and then are oddly confused why you are locked out.
Or rather people like you whine about how overpriced everything is and how everything is so hard for you to solo when if you'd pay attention there are people giving away stuff for cheap (not scam cheap, but below average cheap) and looking for teammates to join in for fun & conquest.
I can keep going but you see my point, yes? You don't want to block all communication, just choose what to pay attention to!
There are a number of people I know of who turn off Zone at times, but always keep local on. Afterall if they're nearby, on a team, or bothering to send you a tell; they must have something to say. If they're honestly harassing you, use the ignore button.
For myself, I only ignore people if they've earned it, and with time, and if they stop their a-hole-ish behavior, I'll be happy to give them a second chance and remove them (i.e.: Smackwell here). If you hate being social or trying to get along with people (including showing forgiveness with due time), then why are you playing a MMO? Seriously, why? Just play a single player RPG and you'll be far happier. To some extent, all people who play MMOs are wanting to be around people (some will be more social, some will be more anti-social, but it IS a massive multiplayer online video-game).
That said much of the comments which are likely to be quoted here for Brou's wall-o-hate are going to be born of ignorance and enraged emotion -- the kinds of comments, if they were educated about the game more and put their emotions aside, they wouldn't say.
It should also be noted that for teamplay, there are bad ways to knock stuff and better ways to knock stuff. I have been tempted for a long time to do a "What not to do in Champions" guide and make a YouTube video of it, but I'm worried I might do more harm than good because it would give griefers & trolls some new ideas of how to intentionally annoy people.
My best tip of what to do with regards to a blast knock (like energy wave or pillar of poz) is to never use it next to a melee tank or melee DPS teammate if you can avoid it! Hold block if you need to. And for melee people, sometimes ranged DPS squishies need to knock because there's something in their face charging an attack and the knock will interrupt. With understanding from both playstyles a lot can be gained, and a lot less facepalm-worthy raging will result.
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Please fix the Overdrive energy unlock! (Should help promote thematic build diversity!)
I also like to play Pet centric characters. Usually I keep them in Support Role. I have lost count of the times people have spent the entire Alert demanding that I heal them, despite the fact that I am upfront about the fact that this is a Pet character with very limited healing powers. But I have that Cross by my name, so I MUST be a healer. That fact that I don't actually have any healing abilities just means that I must be a "noob", not that I am playing quite well, but with a character type and style that you may not be familiar with because it is simply unavailable to Silvers and you may not have encountered it during play before.
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Yeah, I only ran that character that one time the gadget guy showed up, then switched. I've also seen people curse a Muni Nemesis for "dodging too &)#^!$# much" and a Might one for doing "so much knocking."
I been a long time leaving but I'm going to be a long time gone.
Willie Nelson
T.U.F.K.A.S. (the user formerly known as Scarlyng)
Wrong on the CO forums since November, 2008
...wonder how they'll feel about Backfire's Nemesis, Halon (Ice)?
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In a Nemesis Dockside Dustup? Where you are sidekicked (hamstringed) down to L30 with approximately 50% damage output? Really?
That's impressive.
Stuffy on the old CO forums. PWE ate my username.
About the only messages I get during alerts are things like:
"Wow, your character looks so cool !"
"Wow, how did you one-shot the nemesis and all of his henchmen with Eye-Beams ?!?!"
"Wow, the nemesis and his henchmen just surrendered as soon as you showed up !"
"How can we make our characters as cool as yours ?!?!"
"Holy Crap, Gravitar is totally hitting on you !"
"Woah, Warlord is...totally hitting on you ?!?!"
"Wow, the Celestial Dragon switched sides and started nuking Hi-Pan rather than have to face you !"
"Wow, Ive never seen GRAB stop fighting and ask for a hero's autograph before !"
You know, stuff like that.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
Its not the damage that i go on 99 with my Electric or Munitions builds, if they don't need
their EB anymore, but just that i hate to get Holds every 10 seconds from some Nemeses.
Might not just knocks .. they have NTTG on their knocks .. and thats really annoying.
Muni .. yeah is one of the harder ad needs a decent team. PFF still is the worst. I think
i never got one down to even 50%.
But i've also heared people complain about my Fire Nem .. and i like Fire since they
simply don't spam holds. Have i already said how sick and tired i am of these hold spamming
Nemeses ?
There was a guy who ran after every single group of enemies and wouldn't leave a room until it was completely cleared.
I told him that we shouldn't waste time and energy on enemies that aren't in our way.
His response: "You no real hero!" And then he left. :rolleyes:
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Son of a *****
-some poor Blade AT
Thanks!
-near dead Soldier AT
whew
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Amateur
*Roomsweeper*
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SON OF A *****!
-Blade AT
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'I don't heal people who use guns.'
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As to knocking, personally I love sending mobs flying, it makes me laugh out loud. Not sure what the fuss is all about. Whilst they fly through the air they can't attack and the fall does damage. The Dockside alert area is very small and it is difficult to knock the boss outside the range of a ranged dps and any melee mob should have a lunge. Besides, with KB resistance, it's not like you can spam KBs and in some cases they convert into knock ups. Besides, what is a might toon supposed to do, he needs KBs for both extra DPS and as an energy unlock if he is using Unstoppable.
Should I complain about all the annoying special effects that obscure the target, such as epidemic?
Must have been awkward to explain who you are.......
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Movement is meaningless in this game.
You can run behind walls and still get shot because its based on random numbers
not any actual physics. Unless you can lose line of sight and aggro you are still going
to be a target even if you are behind the enemy.
Ducking behind an object and losing aggro until you can get back in the fight
is what you need to do, not run all over the map screwing everyone's AoE or melee up.
In a dust up its actually faster to just die, lose aggro and come back in fighting.
The toxic one is the worst I've seen. I try not to get aggro in that one, because: he seems to alternate between yoinking and holding; resistance is either not proccing or dropping off too soon, so I never seem to resist either; the hold is one of those mob perma hold annoyances where the hold bar constantly refreshes; and you can lose half a health bar while trying to get out of the hold.
I been a long time leaving but I'm going to be a long time gone.
Willie Nelson
T.U.F.K.A.S. (the user formerly known as Scarlyng)
Wrong on the CO forums since November, 2008
Yeah .. it seems in melee range i often just get one hold and after that mostly just roots
but if i'm on range i get much more holds. So with level 40 ranged chars i go on 100'
as soon as the trash is killed. Only on lower chars that still have to use their EB it gets
really annoying sometimes :redface:
This one's great. He's not doing so much knocking... you're not doing enough blocking!"
I love when they start charging up their havoc stomp and I'm the only one blocking. Then everyone flies away and I'm the only one still punching the dude in the face.
Not always true. Some bosses don't have any or many long-range attacks, like most other critters have. If you can keep away, you won't take any (or very little) damage.
This is true. Even if you're successfully kiting the boss, if there's melee on your team, they're going to hate you for kiting the boss around.
Also, it's funny when someone will sit there and block for 20 seconds instead of just dying and start DPSing right away.
Me "its alphabetical your name begins with A..you died like 6 times
Inferno Noob "SHUT UP YOU TALIBAN!!!"
Me " Thats a bit bigoted. Anyhoo I isnt actually an arab I was born in Japan"
Inferno Noob "GO EAT A F@&KING DOG THEN"
Me "Thats also bigoted. Anyhoo I isnt Homo erectus pekinensis im Dutch"
Inferno Noob "What the f@&k is a Dutch?"
To be honest I am in awe that he knew what Homo erectus pekinensis was
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
I always have a little giggle fit anytime some one says that on an alert. Its much better comedy then the photo bombers. :biggrin:
roflmao!!!
I been a long time leaving but I'm going to be a long time gone.
Willie Nelson
T.U.F.K.A.S. (the user formerly known as Scarlyng)
Wrong on the CO forums since November, 2008
ROFL, what if you had said you Dutch people were from the Netherlands, I imagine his response would have been, "GO F@CK TINKERBELL THEN!"
My favorite recent comedy moment was during the Harmon Labs alert when a newbie released after being killed by Warlord and proceeded to swear in zone how the boss was bugged. I sent him a tell explaining how the lockout worked and later on I had the misfortune to team with him again. This time, when he wiped, he spammed the help me button, despite being told we had no resser and after we all wiped and released, he steadfastly refused to release and kept demanding he be ressed. The rest of us all left the instance and I suspect he is still there, spamming the button...
I have it bound to my 'Q' key.
Yep, keep in mind though that dying often does more harm the clock or citizen count than you'd think. A few deaths or a wipeout almost guarantees failure.
Also, neither you nor nextnametaken seemed to read my post where I explicit said Black Fang and in Pyramid Power (which is a Burst Alert, not a Smash Alert)
I was using the banister railing to break his LoS along with smoke grenade and it still wasn't enough. Every single sniper shot and he's come chasing after me while I'm back peddling and firing the golden AK-74 at him. I guess he just likes blonde ladies with guns, kept trying to pounce my poor character.
I own a T-shirt with this on it. I also have one that says "Never Underestimate The Power Of Stupid People In Large Groups" which I often wear around in crowded casual public areas.
1. He wasn't a tank if he was that bad at staying alive and holding agro. That said, tanking in this game is very difficult and to be truly effective... you sort of have to be freeform. (Glacier and Behemoth can do it, but it's very challenging. Not newbie friendly.)
2. A tip if I may? What I had said earlier in this thread, try to avoid using Pillar of Poz near melee players. It can be very frustrating to them when they are trying to build stacks of focus or enrage.
These are funny! :biggrin:
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Depends on the situation. Sometimes it's better to die and DPS right away again than spend 20 seconds doing absolutely nothing.
Also, I've been looking at the clock any time I know I'm going to get murdered (in Dockside Dustup, not in Two Minute Drill or Trainstopping) and I haven't seen the 10 second penalty happen. Is that just not happening anymore, or did it never apply to Dustup?
Didn't miss it, just didn't comment on it because I'm not very fond of that tactic. Whiffing an Aggressored full charge Haymaker because the "tank" doesn't want to get hurt isn't my idea of fun. If you'd just let someone else hit the guy, it could just take aggro off you. Surely you have some sort of active defense or aggro dump you can use, yeah?
In addition to that, it's Pyramid Power. What exactly do you gain by not dying? If the level 10 tank was the only other melee, then okay. But if you keep doing something like using Sniper Rifle then going "wha happen?" and then making all the melee people chase the boss around, you're really only making that (already very long) alert take longer.
When I do Smash alerts on very low level characters, it's really easy to pull aggro off of anyone by slamming the boss with some fully charged attacks. So, I just don't do that. I'll focus on any outlying mobs that aren't getting murdered by all the AoE going on at the boss, and when that's done, I start on the boss slowly, to make sure lots of other folks have aggro, and then start in on the heavy attacks. I'm not gonna head in first and start throwing haymakers, then run away while everyone chases the boss, and act like I don't know why the boss is after me.
I'm not trying to hound you on this or anything, just giving you a different point of view. I can understand the excitement of being able to tank a boss when you're in Ranged stance and not taking any damage while fully DPSing, but kite-tanking is seriously no different than a Might guy punching a Nemesis into orbit every five seconds.
1/ he may not be a tank I will give you that but if he tried to tank I could of kept him healed but he never even attempted to hold aggro he just hit then blocked then stayed blocking for ages then hit again rinse and repeat.
2/Well I never use pillar of poz unless I have no choice and usually try to slow the villains speed down using sigils of ebon weakness to prevent them from moving quickly from melee toons. In this instance the tank was blocking the melee dps'r was dead and the other toon was electric if my memory serves.
3/ I thought this was a post about annoying comments made during alerts not teaching me about game mechanics I'm well aware of as I have been playing this game since 2010. :biggrin:
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People like this are why I solo most of the time unless I feel my tank can be of help in alerts. People like this, I will happily do nothing while Trey Kings do unspeakable things to them.
everytime when the nemesis gets knocked there is 1 - 3 seconds no comign dmg from me because i have to run after.... sometimes peole knock him 10 times in a row.. means 30 seconds no dmg output form me and other unleasheds...
when i have a dmg output of 700-5000 that means im loosing maybe 9000 - 62000 dmg on the nemesis...JUST because i have to run after it...
thats why i say " just dont use knockbacks..."
i mean its up to 3 minutes.... why need knockbacks?
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