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FC.31.20210201.27 - War On Peace Open Mission
kaiserin
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War on Peace Open Mission
Lemurians
- Updated this open mission to use level scaling.
- This open mission can be found on the far east edge of Millennium City.
- Added Ancient Lemurian Helmet and Reptillian Head as possible drops from the open mission. Also updated the default drops to give experience.
- Added a new boss to the open mission.
Lemurians
- Added new Enforcer rank enemy for Lemurians. This foe specializes in fire and ice typed abilities.
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- Missing Team Up
- Bugged reward: [Lemurian] Callout
- Too many mobs to deal with while trying to defend Krax the Exile in Phase 2
- Got one-shot by Bleak Ritualist's Hex of Suffering which hit for 7694 (17957). Elemental Sorcerer's Serpentine Fire debuff stacks and its energy-draining Lightning Storm which also seemed to stack was hard to counter since it also knocks.
A bit too difficult and certainly not solo-able for most.
- The Overlord
War on Peace of ALL Things? Oh no...
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On the Edge of the map, where it's filled with a lot of NOTHING and an ankward unused map area?
This is not an Open Mission you should force Elite-levels
I hate that the Reptillian Head will be locked behind THIS
Suggestion: Please consider bringing back permantly the Mission given during the release of Lemuria Invansion alert years ago
It was very old short mission where you were fighting Lemurians in a Laboratory, but I believe it's sad being gone forever from the game as lost content
There's a mission to talk to Krax though it doesn't require doing the OM itself. Same level tier as the other stuff downtown.
- The Overlord
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On top of that, escort style protect missions are terrible design to begin with. Please reconsider the objective of this OM entirely.
Agreed, the mission was also interesting in layout, and story-wise was a rather cool build-up for the relative Alert.
The War on Peace part of the map used to have also some missions, but they got wiped out some years ago... they made you do some things with the eggs laying around and other stuff... on the edge of the map outside of the OM.
Right now the OM is bland, but it has a tiny bit of strategic options and can be soloed... I sometimes run it solo for sport and story reasons, same as the prison break mission.
It seems the hard remake as a group content is pointless.
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I AM NOT asking for it to be easy like it is like now, some Solo-difficultychallenge would be nice
but It's really lame OM to require teamwork
This feels like another "Why even bother" of making old forgoten content harder only for people to not bother with it... Example: DESTROYER'S FACTORY
when the game still requires more important things to be updated... Like powerframe who need revamps because they are stuck on the PRE-ALERT age
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I do agree on this, but then the problem is this game was never your average MMORPG, the problem is that this content forces the holy trinity mechanic onto us a lot, that needs tanks and healers then often, which I would not often mind.
Then we also have the issue that support as example not often count to the score and not get rewarded at times still. It needs to scale reasonable to the players participating, and yes it should not be soloed if it is level scaling now, but only to a certain degree.
With bosses and special units you can argue that those should not be soloable, PROBLEM IS it is a for god's sake escort/protection mission no one ever liked in games.
There are so many issues that need to be addressed first before making such change, and not get me started on event open missions breaking already, now imagine that on a content that is supposed to stay all day now with probably very low drop chances on the edge on the map of nowhere.
While we are at that topic, could we think of more teleport possibilities with NPC's or teleport pads, at least around MC? Ladyhawk serial comes to mind about that issue of traveling again.
Also, also, on topic of NPC's can those be buffed like the Open Mission? Same in the Series? I hate when games do that, supposed strong NPC's that drop like flies on every attack. I know we are supposed to be strong and all but why have NPC's at all then, yet in Westside some Civilians beat up the Cobra Lords randomly or the for god's sake Hotdog Vendor, beats on the Mega Destroid with. NPC stats and behavior in general need a rework also.
I think the best case scenario is that this reaches about the same level as Ascii or Reign of Frogs. If it requires anything more than that, it just won't get enough people doing it regularly.
In any case, I'd almost rather see the reptilian head put in an exclusive pack than as a super rare drop from an OM that might not be done often. At least you could buy it reasonably on the AH that way.
That said, I do like the idea of revamping OMs to be more fun and engaging. Just try not to overdo it on endgame focused content.
So much of this here, endgame content focus can be bad and needs to be its own thing separated still but should never be mandatory, it only burns people out or can turn them away too much.
I know, odd comparison, but Guild Wars 2 does Open World content somehow so well in scaling and all, and yes it focused on that more but not means other games with such can not learn of it, make the worlds more lively, prefer it more than to many instanced things or dungeons and lairs.
I love certain Lairs also, not get me wrong, but an option would be nice to have a "story mode" and a "hardcore mode" one. Options are always better than enforcing something. Variety and optional is important and yes you should work for such, but it should not feel like a second job and drop rate should not be like non-existent at all.
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The biggest problem is getting people to do it. And the main issue (IMHO) is that the best gear in the game is grindable in a (mostly) predictable method. So there is little reason to do ANYTHING else. Stand around MC, do the rampages, and cosmics, and that's it. When is the last time King's Throng, I, Zombie, Flying Dutchman or the other pirate one in Lemuria were done? Cause there is no benefit for doing them. The only rewards that matter are SCR, GCR and as a distant 3rd Q. There are a few "rare" drops but the rate is so low that its not worth it. And its not even well documented what drops where anymore.
Bronze king gear? Vikorin gear? Nemesis gear? All worthless cause there are easier to buy sets with set bonuses not even counting the cosmic sets.
Add to that the FOMO you get when you leave the MC zone, since so many call outs happen in zone chat. You go into VB, MI, or Lemuria and you are isolating yourself, which is the opposite of what should be happening.
Since cosmic gear isn't going away anytime soon, might as well, lean into it. Make the higher level non soloable OMs give out SCR or even GCR. Heck, 1 GCR per day per mission and you would have people lining up to do them. Or have them give out Drifter salvage even. Something that people might want to collect.
Then give the other 3 slot dropped gear (the ones I mentioned above) set bonuses, so that they rank with (or better then) Heroics, and you might find some people trying to farm them. (still probably not give how cheap you can buy heroic set items on the AH, but maybe) The gear you can find should be better then the gear you can buy or mindlessly grind.
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I prefer always getting some currency drop (SCR, GCR, Winter, or whatever is appropriate to the mission) + a chance for unique drops. With the currency, if the RNG gods have been against me all of the time, eventually, I can buy the rare drop from a vendor. Such as how it is mostly done during Events.
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The main issue with more endgame group content is the small player population. After cosmic rotation is done you can see people calling out for Nemcon, Andrith, DRA and maybe TA or Eido and it can take forever to get a group of 5 together,
If Superman can have soloable end game content, so should we.
Honestly, instead of trying to make OM like this ELITE, you could have designed them more for Solo-approach and use it as Narrative tool for the game's lore, both existing and upcoming!
Not to mention training for endgame and open missions which matter
The only reason I visit this area is during Qliphothic Invansion, Nighthawk event and others, because of good event mob placement there
Visually, it's a lovely area really, shame it gets wasted in this part of the map