Feedback Thread: Enemy Changes

kaiserin · January 2020

FC.31.20200109.1

New Shadows

Fixed an issue where the melee attacks used by this group had a range of 5ft instead of 10ft.
Bloodgorgers will now more reliably use their Vampiric Rage buff.
Bloodgorgers now use the Tear Down power.
Bloodgorgers now use the Pounce power.
Immortals now use the Veil of Darkness power.
Many New Shadows now use the Deadly Bite ability, which applies Deep Wound that deals damage over time based on the number of bleed stacks on you.
Updated visuals on many New Shadows abilities.

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Enemy damage over time effects now deal damage as one clump instead of individual hits for each stack.

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lezard21 · January 2020

Cool. A Therakiel Temple revamp in the near future maybe? The Horrors group are currently significantly harder than even the bosses, so it's nice to see other groups getting worked on.

qawsada · January 2020

I am pretty sure this is for death rattles. The Deep Wound seem to be applying from most vampire except Bloodgorgers.

avianos · January 2020

Hmm this will make Vibora bay both more Interesting and incredible Obnoxious consider the terrible mission-design (Kill x number, huge empty lairs, fetch quests)
So yeah this update doesn't take in consideration the existing outdated missions

nyghtshroude · January 2020

If this is for the new death rattle then I'm pleased to see vampires being featured.

warcanch · January 2020

Sanguinarians have always IGNORED NttG. Do they abide by the rules now?

avianos · January 2020

Immortals now have access to Trauma, which they apply along with Deep Wound in a better animated bite power

But now Sanguinarians are FABULOUS

nyghtshroude · January 2020

I like the new hair.

nyghtshroude · January 2020

avianos wrote: »

Hmm this will make Vibora bay both more Interesting and incredible Obnoxious consider the terrible mission-design (Kill x number, huge empty lairs, fetch quests)
So yeah this update doesn't take in consideration the existing outdated missions

I hope a new AT is released with this - some kind of vampire hunter.

bluhman · January 2020

warcanch wrote: »

Sanguinarians have always IGNORED NttG. Do they abide by the rules now?

It could be the case that they're just using an 'always flying' stance like Manimal Birds and Hypnotists do. They might look like they're flying but are actually just walking? Then again usually when one of those enemies are affected by a knockback their fall-down animation makes it look like their spine just breaks entirely and we all know how strangely adverse the current dev team is to any and all visual bugs despite the current track record.

nyghtshroude · January 2020

Hey can the New Shadows also drop the Bloodgorger head as a rare costume?

avianos · January 2020

nyghtshroude#9048 wrote: »

Hey can the New Shadows also drop the Bloodgorger head as a rare costume?

This out of topic
Vampire Long Jaw has been account wide costume reward for Defeating 1000 New Shadows (Tenebrous)
Chthonic Hunter (5000 New Shadows) rewards you with the Vampire Monster (the head Immortals use)

warcanch · January 2020

bluhman wrote: »

warcanch wrote: »

Sanguinarians have always IGNORED NttG. Do they abide by the rules now?

It could be the case that they're just using an 'always flying' stance like Manimal Birds and Hypnotists do. They might look like they're flying but are actually just walking? Then again usually when one of those enemies are affected by a knockback their fall-down animation makes it look like their spine just breaks entirely and we all know how strangely adverse the current dev team is to any and all visual bugs despite the current track record.

But when they're hovering in the air and I hit them with an NttG, they should fall. They don't.

kaiserin · January 2020

Many enemies have innate flight, which cannot be removed. This isn't going to change, but we may be able to give them an icon indicating that they cannot be grounded.

warcanch · January 2020

Sounds reasonable.

avianos · January 2020

kaiserin#0958 wrote: »

Many enemies have innate flight, which cannot be removed. This isn't going to change, but we may be able to give them an icon indicating that they cannot be grounded.

Can't you just make it so Nail to the Ground against those enemies work like Gravity debuff?
It's really obnoxious for Melee builds

jaazaniah1 · January 2020

avianos wrote: »

Hmm this will make Vibora bay both more Interesting and incredible Obnoxious consider the terrible mission-design (Kill x number, huge empty lairs, fetch quests)
So yeah this update doesn't take in consideration the existing outdated missions

Yeah, the killing 50x, 20x will be more annoying (maybe the XP will be buffed to compensate???), but aren't there some crypts where we can just speed run past them to get to the end part of the mission?

avianos · January 2020

jaazaniah1 wrote: »

Yeah, the killing 50x, 20x will be more annoying (maybe the XP will be buffed to compensate???), but aren't there some crypts where we can just speed run past them to get to the end part of the mission?

Yes, the Mission "Abyss Family Robinson" where you have to defeat Clark Robinson at the end of the Crypt!
The mission has a time limit and you can skip everything and go straight to the Final Boss
One of the few expections in VB mission design

The same you can do in the Mission where you Rescue Sapphire from getting Mind controlled to get married buuuuuut then you are forced to fight every mob with her while escorting her to the exit

Also thanks for reminding me that the XP from Vibora Bay missions is aweful

aesica · January 2020

kaiserin#0958 wrote: »

Many enemies have innate flight, which cannot be removed. This isn't going to change, but we may be able to give them an icon indicating that they cannot be grounded.

That's kind of a shame, but at the same time, I get it for some foes. It'd just be nice to see more use for NttG outside PvP (which the majority of players doesn't participate in I suspect)

pantagruel01 · January 2020

aesica wrote: »

That's kind of a shame, but at the same time, I get it for some foes. It'd just be nice to see more use for NttG outside PvP (which the majority of players doesn't participate in I suspect)

The unfortunate other half of flight being unremovable for some targets is that NPCs whose flight can be removed are usually unable to figure out how respond.

aesica · January 2020

pantagruel01 wrote: »

The unfortunate other half of flight being unremovable for some targets is that NPCs whose flight can be removed are usually unable to figure out how respond.

I actually figured it was something like that. While one part of me thinks it'd be cool to have it be useful in more situations than just cybermind's probes, I'm also okay with being able to ignore that advantage.

mordray001 · January 2020

As a meleeist, I have 0 ranged characters, NttG is ridiculously vital to me for getting mods out of the air to kill... especially when some might/force nut decides that the best opener is to scatter every NPC rather then group and slaughter them... The other options are just crap as the knock-to's are more often than nought resisted by the nature of flight and the AI which tries to return to its former location...

metalheart · January 2020

Will different mob factions get updated skills in time? I would like to see the put up a proper fight and not just hit really hard or have plenty damage resistance. I'm talking about stuff like a better fight system where the NPCs have a Smarter AI. It would be better if people would have to use there brains to take em down.

mordray001 · January 2020

The more dynamic you make the fights the more impactful you make net latency... which in this case is purely selfish as I never get less than 90 and frequently ride around 200... which is one reason I favor durable toons as they are by their nature more forgiving to the latency levels I have.

aschershadow · January 2020

So is the "Immortal Curse" buff that Immortals can get gonna be looked at? The description says its meant to lifelink with the target so damage is shared, but it just seems to give massive regeneration to the Immortal, or am I just doing and/or understanding it wrong?

criswolf09 · January 2020

Bug
New Shadows enemies who have access to their version of Vile Breath
They are stacking deadly poison.

qawsada · February 2020

Yeah, so tell me, are the Bloodgorgers' defiance going to be a thing in GRAB and SMASH alerts? The Immortal ones are bad enough since you can't kill them if you didn't kill them fast enough. I can't imagine levelers trying to kill that AND Defiance 6 GIANT Bloodgorgers.

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