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PSA: Subs and LTS pay 1$ for additional freeform characters.
spinnytop
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Making sure people are aware of this. If you are Sub or LTS you don't need to buy FF slots to make additional FF characters. Just like always, the regular character slots can be filled with FFs by you. I've seen some confusion/misinformation going around about this and want to make sure this is clear. I bought a regular slot and verified that I could fill it with a FF character. Nothing has changed in this regard other than the fact that the price of these slots is now 100 zen.
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NO!PRERABBLE!PANIC!BURNITALLDOWN!REVOLUTIOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Misleading thread title. But with who posted the thread, that's no surprise either I suppose.
Well not quite Jon, now you have to pay a dollar to get them, which isn't something that'd have really bothered me. I mean I want the company to make money and if this lets' them make money then I'd be fine with the change. I'd grumble a bit but the new cost on something we used to get for free isn't that big of a deal. Not a fan of the dishonesty in the change though. The fact that there's now a cap and I can't get more character slots now even with money is kind of the end of the game for me though.
Yep, pretty much.
Who doesn't love some good, old-fashioned, honest marketing.
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You guys are joking right????
The thread title is not saying "You can buy a new character slot that is bought by either a LTS or Gold Sub that works essentially like a FF slot/character would for $1 now and you couldn't before"
What the thread title is saying is "You can buy a new character slot that is bought by either a LTS or Gold Sub that works essentially like a FF slot/character would for $1 now while you had to pay $14 for 2 character slot that is bought by either a LTS or Gold Sub that works essentially like a FF slot/character would before"
No wonder you get so easily triggered when you even fail at reading comprehension.
Look guys, we found the 3 cases where stupidity was not a bliss!
Man how I hate the new BBCode the forum uses cause stupidity this bad warrants font size = 48
What's misleading about it? It says freeform characters, not Freeform slots. Learn to read scrub, the only troll here is whoever taught you english.
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It's great, they give you the ability to not whine like a spanked infant over video games. I see a lot of people in this thread who should sign up.
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Hmmm..... who's triggered now?
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I don't know, maybe people who are triggered?
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Undoubtedly.
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Would I have bothered to make the thread if everything was exactly like it was before and nothing changed? Yeah, the price went down. I pointed that out in the OP.
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There are people with almost 200 character slots, who are unhappy they can't have more. Even though it's pretty standard to limit character slots in every known MMO-style game out there. Part of that is Cryptic s fault for letting something unsustainable go on for so long.
But at the end of the day, things are changing. Players can either accept things are changing and be thankful that Cryptic compromised with us. Or dig their heels in the sand and refuse to accept it. Neither choice matters. Change will come regardless. *shrugs*.
As for me, like many others I bought my FF three-pack. Hopefully, the FREE premium pack for former subscribers still happens.
A mistake they have made many times before, with largely the same result every time. Let's hope they learned and never make it again.
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It is amusing that someone complaining about other's reading comprehension posts "You can buy a new FF slot for $1" which is wrong, you can get a new character slot for $1 but you need to be gold or LTS and have under 100 character slots. FF slots have dropped in price, but they're still like $30 bucks.
And hey, I found a special snowflake so eager to correct others they made an **** out of themselves. That's embarrassing.
Edit: the misleading part BTW is the use of the word "freeform" when you should have just called them character slots. As a gold or lifetime subscriber you have the choice of making an archetype or freeform, if your gold status drops and you become a sliver, that character slot can only be used for archetypes.
I mean..I should be happy you're right in catching them on their irony but this is worrying.I mean, every time they talk on this subject, they're wrong. That...just is jarring. I figured it legitimately can't be possible but every single post they've ever made on this topic/relating topics is uninformed and blatantly wrong. Not even different opinion/agree-to-disagree. No. Just wrong.
42 40s, LTSer.
I don't really care what you thought I should have typed. What I typed was 100% accurate. Deal with it.
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One of the perks is becoming an enemy with half the population of CO and a friend of the other half.
I gather they're going to get rid of subscriptions? And what are they replacing them with? What happens to all my freeform characters? I gather from this thread that they'd remain available unless my sub lapses... but they're getting rid of subs, so I'm confused. What happens to those characters if I'm not subbed? They lock out (since I would be a silver player), but if there's no way to resub (with subs being discontinued), how do I get access to them?
Crafting, Exploration and Interaction as it should be:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1108521
I mean, I literally can't hold your hand any tighter
NO U
Assuming that they use the first proposed plan for discontinuing subscriptions (since they haven't released any new info since), subscriptions would be replaced by nothing. They would add a "premium pack" of services that gives you the ability to change power colors, comes with some costume sets and character slots. Correct, your freeforms would remain available until your subscription lapses. You would have the option to continue subscribing even past the date of this change, but if your subscription were to lapse, you could not ever subscribe monthly again. Lifetime subscriptions would remain available indefinitely, so that would be a way to get your characters back.
When it was brought up that simply recreating your characters in a bought Freeform slot wasn't a valid option since character-bound unlocks and gear and such would have to be deleted from the original character, Cryptic answered that they'd look into creating a service that would convert a regular character slot into a Freeform slot, but this would come down the line when they could figure out how to do this.
Unless they removed the announcement, you should check the news for the game on either the arc website or the arc launcher. As it stands, that plan has been put on hold. We have no idea what is happening at this moment. And, most likely they will just apply a change without alerting people ahead of time.
Except
They already did.
Heck you are even telling the other guy in this very post to go look for the topic where they alerted people ahead of time
Are you feeling ok?
He probably meant, 'without alerting them immediately ahead of time', which they didn't do. They sorta told us 3 weeks ago that they were probably going to do something, but they weren't sure what, and they'd have to speak to their manager... and then put these changes out with the latest patch without much (any?) further notice. Knowing that the earth will eventually be destroyed is different from knowing that there is a meteor that's going to make impact in a week.
But, you should know that the rest of humanity got together, and we all think you're a real hero for policing the entire forum and trying to make people look stupid. Everyone is talking about your incalculable value to the forums, the game, and existence itself. In short, the work you've put in these last few days has been the single greatest achievement in the history of mankind. Please never stop.
He's not trying to make anyone look stupid, they're doing that all on their own. He's actually trying to help them to stop being stupid, with gigantic flashing signs. It might not be working, I think the signs need to flash harder, and maybe be bigger. I mean for crying out loud, some people around here can't tell the difference between the word "character" and the word "slot"... I'm sure that sort of thing can lead to terrible consequences down the road.
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But lets cut through the crap and just look at what is LIKELY going on here (clearly subject to being wrong, as I hope it is). It seems that they've decided to break their initial release down into "phases" in an attempt to make this whole situation a littler easier to swallow. That is a fairly typical business strategy. Phase 1 was the introduction of character/FF slots and a (more) affordable price as we just saw as that was one of several concerns. I assume this is a move made to soften the blow of their initial plan to remove character slot unlocks and roll out the premium packs in wake of sub-removals. There is no reason to significantly reduce their profits on this sale item unless it were laying the groundwork for some other change; I say this because no one was really complaining about it beforehand. If this wasn't the case then I imagine they would have gladly explained that by now as it would only serve to calm the player base. We've gone weeks without much word, and as always the players are left to speculate. They are playing their hand close to the chest, giving as little info as possible in order to encourage sales. As was stated earlier, the mantra of "Gold subs get $1 character slots!" becomes obsolete if said character slots become locked out off free-form due to subscription removals as was the issue earlier this month. Because of this, I am urging everyone I know that is is subbed NOT to buy slots until we know one way or the other if they are going through with the sub-removal because then we would be right back at square one with all of the issues we've endlessly discussed weeks ago. I'd love for them to come out and shut down this theory, but so far all we've been treated as to as of late is the endless squawking of Spinny... and that hardly inspires much confidence.
Assuming that these changes are in fact moving forward in an unspecified time frame, the character slot limit is going to be enforced, and the level-40 unlocks and subscriptions removed, then perhaps they should consider making the achievement of level 40 a means to an end for obtaining freeform status for character slots. I know that they mentioned that FF was something they were looking into providing an in-game route towards, and this is one way to do it. Albeit, it's generous. I'm not going to deny that. I just can't think of any better way to handle this whole mess... (and again, understand that I am offering this suggestions somewhat nonpartisan considering I would be unaffected by this as an LTS). I do understand and empathize with the reality that this still doesn't address the concern players with over 100 character slots have, and I honestly don't have an answer to that. It's something they were allowed to build upon for nearly a decade, and stripping it from them now will always be considered a bit of a low blow no matter how it's approached.
You've also seen conversations between them and a bunch of other people. Are you going all butt nuts conspiracy theory on them too? lel
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I am the forum police? Cool! Do I get my own patrol to drive around MC going WOOOO WOOOO WOOO WOOO?
Did I now? The series of events I remember was Foxi making a PSA for new or confused LTS/Gold subs so that they wouldn't waste money buying a FF slot when buying a regular slot would have the same effect of creating a FF character so long as they are subbed. Then a bunch of people saw who the OP was, and went "FOOOOOXIIIIII!!!
But no, the OP was Foxi and he disagreed with me that one time in the past in another topic, ergo he is a troll, and also he is ok with the current changes so that means he is friends with the devs or an actual dev himself in disguise and probably he was the one that ordered subscriptions to be changed. Yeah, that sounds more plausible.
Also, I didn't try to make anyone look stupid, they did that themselves and I just pointed people's attention to it. Kinda like how a circus' showman points the dumb monkeys doing tricks to the audience.
So feel free to angrily shake your fist as I drive off WOOOO WOOOO WOOO WOOO
Your friendly neighbourhood Forum Police Officer,
Lezard
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Yep
42 40s, LTSer.
Also props on using a mental disorder as a joke as part of your comeback retort. 10/10 classiness, heck you might even be the first guy to make a joke with it \o/
edit: Ok, I lied I DID get triggered at the fact that there is no proper Police Officer hat costume in game cause I want to recreate the awesome avatar foxi made for me. Kaiserin plz for 4th July event, thanks ^_^
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But I wasn't addressing Spinny's post, I was addressing yours. Again, reading comprehension. Please try reading what people are saying and who they are talking to before flying off the handle. I already addressed what I thought was wrong with Spinny's post.
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Probably the most insightful response in this thread. Some people just can't wait to get negative, they live for it. If you turned their frown upside down the ends would just droop back down into an even bigger frown.
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Can't speak for others but I'm not mad, I pointed out my problems with the title of the thread, why I thought it was misleading, but I'd say I'm more amused more than anything. Nothing wrong in my books with telling people that character slots are now only 100 zen but the problem is the use of the word "freeform" and I think that's what has some people objecting.
Well what you have to ask yourself is this: would the title being "Character slots are now 100 zen" have in any way conveyed what the post was meant to convey? If anything that would be misleading since the topic is specifically that subs and LTS can acquire more freeform characters with the 100 zen slots and don't need to buy freeform slots.
A thread that simply states "Character slots are now 100 zen" would be pointless since that information is clearly available in the update notes and I haven't seen anyone who is confused about this fact. On the other hand, I have seen people who think subs and LTS will need to buy FF slots to get more FF characters. I doubt I would catch those people's attention with a thread titled "Characters slows are now 100 zen".
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Is that what you were saying Spinny? That Free Form Character slots now only cost $1? Because if that's what you were saying you are wrong, however I suspect you were trying to tell us that character slots are only $1 and it's lezard21 that's wrong.
So wait, the issue was that I used the word "FF slot" instead of the word "A character slot that is bought by either a LTS or Gold Sub that works essentially like a FF slot/character would" when referring to something that was completely clear in the OP thus completely unaffecting the sense of my sentence? And that mixup was your entire basis to deconstruct the validity of my argument?
Geez I might be the Forum Police, but you are the Grammar Police
Lezard is irrelevant because this:
Was not in response to lezard, it was in response to me. You say that the use of the phrase "freeform characters" is misleading here, and that's where you're wrong.
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I do think you're correct that some folks might not realize that if they're gold or LTS they don't need FF character slots to make FF characters, but maybe you should have either addressed that in the body of the post or made two PSAs. That's just my 2 cents.