Is Ego blades good now?

kelborne · November 2017

My main's original build was ego blades, but back then it was a pain to make effective. It constantly had energy issues and the damage was okay at best. I heard it recently got a major overhaul. How does it stack up to other melee sets now.

Also, the new tk ult, ego blade pandemonium looks interesting due to being a low cd and a toggle. How does that fair?

pantagruel01 · November 2017

new ego blades is good.

spinnytop · November 2017

Telekenisis is in general now one of the best power sets, and the melee part is no exception. It has all the types of utility but one, and does great damage as well, though with slightly more demanding rotations than other power sets.

kallethen · November 2017

Can't say I had much issue with the old Ego blades. They worked very well for me.

But while I haven't used my Ego blade toon too much since the rework, I'd have to agree that it's good. Energy management is much easier with the newer version of the energy unlock.

monaahiru · November 2017

Ego Blades is one of the best Melee DPS now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CNgaixSduM

chaosdrgnz43 · November 2017

Go either Dex or Ego Prime and stack Dex. I heard Ego prime is better though since it has high crit chance. Even higher when paired with AoPM.

monaahiru · November 2017

Damage are very similar but Ego Prime is better on Defense bonus. o3o

warcanch · November 2017

I use TK blades for tanking, but 2 powers have a problem with their anim interfering with BLOCK activation: TK Weaponry (the combo) and TK Annihilation.

If you are fighting Ape and Dino, you may get lucky to get the 3 strikes from the combo off, but more than likely the anim will prevent your block from activating in time and you can get splatted. Better to just do 2 strikes from the combo and block. TK Annihilation is more forgiving, but if you start it late and the Ape/Dino strike sooner, you may go splat because block didn't activate in time.

avianos · November 2017

They are amazing
Ego blade pandemonium is simply devasting for melee TK

revanantmorituri · November 2017

avianos said:
They are amazing

Ego blade pandemonium is simply devasting for melee TK

Yes, more blades good. Plus I keep Warlock's Blades up as much as possible (scales with the TK passive). Six blades of death!

(What? I ran out of points before I could rank up Pandemonium.)

royalflvsh · November 2017

Yes, my main finally came into his own. I'm always visibly ranked on Cosmic scoreboards and can capably solo most QWZ missions.

jaazaniah1 · November 2017

Hmm, do the WBs really get a bonus from Id Mastery and Ego Form? I thought I tried that and didn't see a difference. I will have to try again.

revanantmorituri said:

Yes, more blades good. Plus I keep Warlock's Blades up as much as possible (scales with the TK passive). Six blades of death!

flowcyto · November 2017

jaazaniah1 said:
Hmm, do the WBs really get a bonus from Id Mastery and Ego Form? I thought I tried that and didn't see a difference. I will have to try again.

They are proper pets, so not directly, no.

dleto · November 2017

I'm coming back to the game for the first time since shortly after release. I remember my favorite build back then was Ego blades, so its good to hear its still viable. How would I go about setting up an Ego Blades character now?

flowcyto · November 2017

Here's a basic dps template you can start with, or edit as you like:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform
v2.3.2-26

Super Stats
Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Chiller (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 18: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Ego Blade
Level 1: Ego Weaponry (Rank 2, Stressed Out)
Level 6: Mental Discipline
Level 8: Id Mastery (Rank 2, Rank 3, Id Blades)
Level 11: Telekinetic Reverberation
Level 14: Ego Blade Frenzy (Rank 2, Mental Block)
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Ego Blade Annihilation (Rank 2, Mental Acuity)
Level 23: Ego Blade Dash
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 32: Telekinetic Shield (Rank 2, Telekinetic Reinforcement)
Level 35:
Level 38:
Adv. Points: 28/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
Dexterity: Power Swell (2/2)
Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
Warden: Fortified Gear (2/3)
Warden: Slaughter (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

Last few powers can be w/e ya want. Some of the stats, pwoers, advs, and specs could change a bit (like using Brawler + Setup, using a defensive passive in the Hybrid role instead of an offensive one in the meele role, taking Siphoning Strikes, using a diff SS setup, etc) if desired. This one gears mostly for Dex, w/ some Con and Rec, and skips severity rating no gear if/when it gets Dex Mastery.

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royalflvsh · November 2017

> @pandoraslockbox said:
> "DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>

I respectfully disagree. Ego Blades were simply underperforming before the review. It's still surpassed in DPS by other builds, some of which are ranged. Powered Armor and Munitions come readily to mind.

monaahiru · November 2017

pandoraslockbox said:
"DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>

royalflvsh said:
> @pandoraslockbox said:

> "DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>

I respectfully disagree. Ego Blades were simply underperforming before the review. It's still surpassed in DPS by other builds, some of which are ranged. Powered Armor and Munitions come readily to mind.

How ever both [Mental Precision] and [Mental Discipline] scales with DEX.

And the EGO r9 Mods I had in my build changed to all DEX r9. Took so long time and money to fix this.
And I'm worrying Ego power set return to scale Ego again. So I can't release all of my EGO Mods.
Those are stocked in my bank. o3o

royalflvsh · November 2017

I feel your pain, my friend.

monaahiru · November 2017

I'(m not afraid of nochin because I got shadwey cat with growy eyes AF somehow. o3o

I just got heavily bleeded. o3o

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spinnytop · November 2017

gradii said:
I challenge you to get 7-9k dps with munitions. MAYBE a heavily min maxed PA build can hit 7k still if overgeared.

I don't know what munitions build they're talking about but Ego Blades still isn't OP.

dleto · November 2017

So the Ego stat isn't necessary for Ego Blades anymore?

flowcyto · November 2017

dleto said:
So the Ego stat isn't necessary for Ego Blades anymore?

I mean, technically it wasn't strictly necc before since you could (can still) use FotT and Dex before. Ego (TK) Reverb used to scale w/ Ego, but for energy you didn't necc need to SS it either, or could just use a diff EU. TK Blades still have their passive dmg bonus scale from Ego, but ofc that soft-caps at 70 and is subject to DR, so its not overly important overall.

monaahiru · November 2017

dleto said:
So the Ego stat isn't necessary for Ego Blades anymore?

Max DEX works better for ether EGO primary or DEX. o3o

revanantmorituri · November 2017

flowcyto said:

dleto said:
So the Ego stat isn't necessary for Ego Blades anymore?
I mean, technically it wasn't strictly necc before since you could (can still) use FotT and Dex before. Ego (TK) Reverb used to scale w/ Ego, but for energy you didn't necc need to SS it either, or could just use a diff EU. TK Blades still have their passive dmg bonus scale from Ego, but ofc that soft-caps at 70 and is subject to DR, so its not overly important overall.

Wait, Ego soft caps at a score of 70, or a damage boost of 70 (SS bonus plus the basic stat bonus)? Because if the former, something is horribly broken in this game. My average ranged character hits a 70 Ego before even touching gear bonuses. I knew something about the community's laser-like focus on criticals annoyed me for some reason: in a rational game, building for sustainable, predictable damage should be as effective an approach as trying to game the random number generator in your favor.

flowcyto · November 2017

Nah, that's only referring to the innate damage bonus that Ego gives to Ranged (and TK blades) outlined in white text on ur char sheet. Same thing for Str's melee bonus having a soft-cap. It doesn't refer to other dmg bonuses, like SS's (yellow text on char sheet) or slotted passives, which can end up being more in sum.

spinnytop · November 2017

revanantmorituri said:
Wait, Ego soft caps at a score of 70, or a damage boost of 70 (SS bonus plus the basic stat bonus)? Because if the former, something is horribly broken in this game.

At a score of 70. I'm not sure why you think that means that something is horribly broken with the game, because I can assure you that it has been that way for years and everything's just fine.

monaahiru · November 2017

pandoraslockbox said:
"DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>

But I don't feel so because we could say same things to every melee DPS. We can make similar build in every melee DPS power sets now.

chaosdrgnz43 · November 2017

monaahiru said:

pandoraslockbox said:
"DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>
But I don't feel so because we could say same things to every melee DPS. We can make similar build in every melee DPS power sets now.

To put it simply, anything with high dex can be considered high dps. I guess "DPS" can be considered "Dex per second". lol

monaahiru · November 2017

chaosdrgnz43 said:

monaahiru said:

pandoraslockbox said:
"DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>
But I don't feel so because we could say same things to every melee DPS. We can make similar build in every melee DPS power sets now.
To put it simply, anything with high dex can be considered high dps. I guess "DPS" can be considered "Dex per second". lol

Though my best DPS is simple STR melee with over 700 STR and DEX amount as 10.
My full-charged Haymaker hits so hard. o3o

chaosdrgnz43 · November 2017

monaahiru said:

chaosdrgnz43 said:

monaahiru said:

pandoraslockbox said:
"DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>
But I don't feel so because we could say same things to every melee DPS. We can make similar build in every melee DPS power sets now.
To put it simply, anything with high dex can be considered high dps. I guess "DPS" can be considered "Dex per second". lol
Though my best DPS is simple STR melee with over 700 STR and DEX amount as 10.
My full-charged Haymaker hits so hard. o3o

But compared to an MA build with Ego/Dex prim with high dex can probably still out perform it. Could say the same for Ego blades, power armor, elec, bestial, might,and hw.

monaahiru · November 2017

chaosdrgnz43 said:

monaahiru said:

chaosdrgnz43 said:

monaahiru said:

pandoraslockbox said:
"DEX blades" are overpowered. >_>
But I don't feel so because we could say same things to every melee DPS. We can make similar build in every melee DPS power sets now.
To put it simply, anything with high dex can be considered high dps. I guess "DPS" can be considered "Dex per second". lol
Though my best DPS is simple STR melee with over 700 STR and DEX amount as 10.
My full-charged Haymaker hits so hard. o3o
But compared to an MA build with Ego/Dex prim with high dex can probably still out perform it. Could say the same for Ego blades, power armor, elec, bestial, might,and hw.

Compared with my Ego/Dex Ego blade build and pure STR and also pure DEX all having R9, R5 and DUC, 10% damage bonus Mods, they works very similar because Enrage scales with amount of STR and we can make high critical chance by r9 Lucky Gem similar as MA Form scales with amount of DEX. I don't modify Lucky Gem on my DEX build but Growth Amulet r9 to make DEX more higher.

Ether pure STR or pure DEX comes top~5th scores at Cosmics fight very often, Ego/Dex comes around next (3~10) usually.

I only uses one single target attack such like Dragon's Wrath r2+adv or Haymaker r3 on each running with two AO, Ice Sheath and Lock N Load on each builds, sometime using Ultimate, also using Nanobot Swarm.
Tough, STR build works very well probably because AoPM buff from the support in team-up because DEX becomes higher then usual.

On Ego/Dex Ego blades Melee build with max DEX amount, I have to hit combo to stack Ego Leech. But yes, this build is good, specially when I am soloing. This is the only build I have AoE on attack with no cool down happening. I also need veteran reward core given to life timer on this build.

Is Ego blades good now?

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