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Elder Worms: evil threat from beyond space and time or NASA dudes?
captainhunter1
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Something that always gets me is the look of Elder Worms.
They are supposed to be a huge threat to humanity -an ancient and thoroughly evil alien race that came to Earth eons ago and were barely defeated. They have slumbered for millennia and are now reawakening...MANKIND BEWARE!
Yet they look like NASA astronaut wannabes.
I understand why from a game perspective - the 'humidity' suits they wear allow them to operate just about anywhere they wish. And from a game design viewpoint, it was a smart move using a humanoid chassis for them because it saved having to go to lengthy means to properly animate worms moving, attacking, jumping, etc.
But I still think 'Astronaut!' every time I encounter them.
How about one simple tweak that would change this whole perspective.... change their basic white color palette to black. At least they would look more evil that way.
What do you all think? Would a simple color change from white suits to black make them feel more menacing?
They are supposed to be a huge threat to humanity -an ancient and thoroughly evil alien race that came to Earth eons ago and were barely defeated. They have slumbered for millennia and are now reawakening...MANKIND BEWARE!
Yet they look like NASA astronaut wannabes.
I understand why from a game perspective - the 'humidity' suits they wear allow them to operate just about anywhere they wish. And from a game design viewpoint, it was a smart move using a humanoid chassis for them because it saved having to go to lengthy means to properly animate worms moving, attacking, jumping, etc.
But I still think 'Astronaut!' every time I encounter them.
How about one simple tweak that would change this whole perspective.... change their basic white color palette to black. At least they would look more evil that way.
What do you all think? Would a simple color change from white suits to black make them feel more menacing?
My consolidated list of game improvements: arcgames.com/en/forums/championsonline#/discussion/1207642/my-consolidated-list-of-game-improvements
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Silverspar on PRIMUS
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You wanna make the elder worms look more evil? Give them goatees.
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Oh wait, nah... BLACK AND RED IS A TERRIBLE IDEA!
Well, nice very straw man if there ever was one.
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Also, the primary effect of making the humidity suits black wouldn't be to make the worms look more "evil" - it would be to make them much harder to see in poorly-lit underground environments.
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Honestly, I'd love to see the Elder Worms in their true full worm form and human converts with worm heads in the game (ditch the suits). But because of the limitations outlined in my OP, it won't happen.
I'm not asking for a game-wide mob revamp (I actually like the VIPER colors
wich is still evil?
*EDIT: holy cow its a big image*
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(say, what ever happened to Sups being the pinnacle of good superheroes (the true boy scout)? Now, everything is all dark, and gritty, and mean, and...well just look above....
um, ok, those just look....like muppets.
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Meanwhile, Marvel enjoys cinematic success with movies that have joy in them.
Thats actually a better design! I wish Cryptic kept the original source material
Eh! I can only hope we get those costume parts
Thats a really nice Robe
For some reason I didn't think there were any hard designs for the Elder Worms and that's why Cryptic made them the way they are in-game...they only had a description to go by.
But that's water under the bridge. I seriously doubt the Elder Worms will get a full redesign at this point (one can still hope though
All robot parts, pointed bubble helmet (which shockingly looks really close to Bulgarex's illustration - lol) and a few spikey parts (mostly the first ones I ran across on the lists) with all colors set to black - except for the worm head which I used ochre and slime green per Bulgarex's suggestion above.
Now imagine if this was done by someone who knew what they were doing, who spent more than 10 minutes and used specific cool looking parts, and added a few small evil color highlights...
*ZING* No more NASA astronaut.... and a pretty good menacing look.
Admittedly, I'd probably die to that. I'd be laughing too hard to be able to competently hit buttons for powers.
DARN IT! I was holding myself to not make any Spongebob comparison
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I do like the pnp designs though, also I am a fan of 60s B movie rejects.
Mystic/biotech would be the way to go with them IMO. They are a blatant ripoff of Brian Lumley's Chthonians... so they should have a more Lovecrafty vibe.
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Apocalypse and Magneto are pretty standard fare. If you look at modern edgelordism, then even Dr Doom or Megatron look pretty heroic compared to some actual heroes. Little red and black if any at all.
Except one is clad in a dark brushed steel and a second one has a BFG strapped to his arm. Still pretty softcore compared to characters covered in spikes and chains.
Snyder got a one BIG achievement under his belt.
BvS managed to convice a part of disgruntled Transformers fanbase that Michael Bay breaking your childhood may not be the worst thing possible...
...because it could be worse.
I can't recall an exact date it changed and a number of colors CMYK palette allowed before, when color masters were made by hand on films, but it was extremely limited until computers started appearing in print.
Villains had to be separated from heroes at a first glance and then both parties had to be separated from the background. Hence so many repetitive backgrounds in colors barely used for anything else.
Nowadays it's a spoiled luxury, pretty much every color flies as long as it separates into four channels.
... actually, trying to work with old limited palette makes for a pretty good exercise .
I know right?
And then you have evil guys like this:
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is the version of Apocalypse that got adapted for the cartoon.
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They're even both filthy vampires.
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But shouldn't the font color be black and red too?
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