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  nacito

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  Posts: 975 Arc User

  March 2016

  the long waited patch has finally come, thanks!

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  This is a big journey, so far if you're reading this, wish you a good day

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  decorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User

  March 2016

  More for my learning curve to figure out, but don't let that stop you!
  
  Man, I seem to use a little bit of HW on a LOT of toons.

  'Dec out
  
  

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  originalbaxter Posts: 54 Arc User

  March 2016

  The change to Ebon Void I find very disappointing.
  
  First, let me say that only around 2% of my characters have Ebon Void. I am not overly invested in that particular power.
  
  Second, It is not the limit of five stacks that bothers me, that does "place it in line with other advantages of its type".
  
  It is changing it to a 3-point advantage. That's the same mistake that was made when they nerfed the damage of Mental Storm to place it in line with Mental Leech and Shadow of Doubt, but failed to include the CD reduction of Mental Storm per rank the other two have, resulting in a power that has 40% of the damage, but has the same range and costs more.
  
  Its a failure to understand basic game mechanics, or to not care. Ebon Void SHOULD be a 1-point advantage, as should Force Sheath, Telekenetic Reinforcement, et al that require the player to disable themselves for several seconds to reap the benefits of said advantage. Time when the could be doing damage, building threat, healing themselves or others but are instead in lock-down mode, only able to move at a slow crawl (so actually WORSE than a disable).
  
  The only shield advantages that should be 3 point ones are those that activate while you do other things, like Parry or Laser Knight.
  
  As I said, it is not the change to Ebon Void per se that I have a problem with, but changes of this type (such as the ridiculous energy cost of the current 2GM for a tier 3 AoE with a 3 target cap), wherin alterations are forced Live without regard to game mechanics.
  
  I had hoped that the developement team would listen to others on this matter before the change went to Live, but our feedback was either lost in the clutter or dismissed due to arrogance.
  
  Failure to fix this mistake (as well as Mental Storm) would only be the latter.

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  pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User

  March 2016

  The lack of people defending Devouring Darkness as it was shows how OP it was. You're right that there's no actual 'standard' for block lingers (Force Sheath is 1p, Flowing Like the River is 3p, Telekinetic Reinforcement is 1p), but 3p is not out of line.

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  zer0x0ne Posts: 113 Arc User

  March 2016

  pantagruel01 said:

  The lack of people defending Devouring Darkness as it was shows how OP it was. You're right that there's no actual 'standard' for block lingers (Force Sheath is 1p, Flowing Like the River is 3p, Telekinetic Reinforcement is 1p), but 3p is not out of line.

  More than likely such posts were deleted. Because that's how we do things now.
  
  

  
  

  

  
  

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  avianos Posts: 6,028 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  HUGE Updates like this make me giggle like a School Girl
  

  Music and Symphony auras.
  Added Musical Notes Head Aura.

  
  THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
  
  Those auras are exactly what I wanted!
  Bought them with no regrets ! all 3 of them are excellent

  New Ultimate Power: Power Chord
  25ft pbaoe ranged damage sonic maintained attack.
  Deals escalating sonic damage and stacks the Rocking Out buff on you, which increases your damage for 10 seconds.
  When you stop maintaining knocks back all enemies and disorients them.
  This power is available in Might shared and uses your heavy weapon.
  Advantage: Rock Concert. Lets you boost up to 10 allies nearby with a minor damage buff and energy.
  
  New Power: Hyper Voice
  Cone Sonic based attack that disorients foes. Fully maintaining this powers knocks down does.
  Deafening Advantage: Lowers sonic damage resistance.
  Rattle Advantage: Chance to Disorient foes.
  This power is free to freeform players.

  
  Again million thanks, this Update complety revamped Crescendo build (and appearence)
  Now I can run a LEGIT Sonic-themed build​
  
  I hope in the future we will get a full SONIC poweframe~​​

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  pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User

  March 2016

  zer0x0ne said:

  pantagruel01 said:

  The lack of people defending Devouring Darkness as it was shows how OP it was. You're right that there's no actual 'standard' for block lingers (Force Sheath is 1p, Flowing Like the River is 3p, Telekinetic Reinforcement is 1p), but 3p is not out of line.

  More than likely such posts were deleted. Because that's how we do things now.

  Plenty of complaints about other topics didn't get deleted.

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  kallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User

  March 2016

  zer0x0ne wrote: »

  More than likely such posts were deleted. Because that's how we do things now.

  
  It's a conspiracy!!!! /s
  
  Seriously, I've been quite active on the PTS forum threads and I don't think anybody even sneezed at the change to Ebon Void's advantage. And believe me, I was QUITE vocal in posting complaints about other changes that made it into this patch and my posts were not deleted.
  

  pantagruel01 wrote: »

  The lack of people defending Devouring Darkness as it was shows how OP it was. You're right that there's no actual 'standard' for block lingers (Force Sheath is 1p, Flowing Like the River is 3p, Telekinetic Reinforcement is 1p), but 3p is not out of line.

  
  Force Sheath and Telekinetic Reinforcement aren't on the same par as DD though. While I can understand wanting it at 2 points instead of 3, I don't think 3 is out of line.​​

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  zer0x0ne Posts: 113 Arc User

  March 2016

  pantagruel01 said:

  zer0x0ne said:

  pantagruel01 said:

  The lack of people defending Devouring Darkness as it was shows how OP it was. You're right that there's no actual 'standard' for block lingers (Force Sheath is 1p, Flowing Like the River is 3p, Telekinetic Reinforcement is 1p), but 3p is not out of line.

  More than likely such posts were deleted. Because that's how we do things now.

  Plenty of complaints about other topics didn't get deleted.

  A dissenting post I made about something else in these patch notes was quite quickly removed.
  
  

  
  

  

  
  

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  rerrot Posts: 80 Arc User

  March 2016

  Is it working the perk of the 3 items (the fish and the 2 guns) or continue with bug?

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  guyhumual Posts: 2,392 Arc User

  March 2016

  Is there a new form for Heavy Weapons? Because a ton of powers no longer give stacks of Enrage. That's going to destroy most of my Heavy Weapons builds and it means that these powers are no longer useful in the might framework.

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  decorumfriends Posts: 2,802 Arc User

  March 2016

  zer0x0ne said:

  A dissenting post I made about something else in these patch notes was quite quickly removed.
  
  

  I don't know your situation, but nearly every time we've had these kinds of accusations, it turns out the posts were removed for obvious other reasons than complaining.
  
  

  'Dec out
  
  

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  soulman5000 Posts: 3 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  What happened to The Void AT? instead of END CON EGO its superstats are now EGO CON PRE.
  whilst i may prefer ego primary, these changes were not mentioned in the patch notes and i feel The Void now struggles in terms of energy management.
  
  Also, why put trauma on a 3 second must charge rooting power? An AT like void should be able to apply trauma dependently, where as the new pistol whip power can apply it instantly (the specialist gets this)
  
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  aesica Posts: 2,537 Arc User

  March 2016

  I use 2 of those abilities in various builds, so here's my thoughts on them:
  
  Ebon Void - Voracious Darkness really wasn't powerful enough to warrant both an increase to 3 advantage points as well as a reduction in stacking ability. Consider this instead:
  
  - 1 advantage point
  - Stacks to 5
  - Buff duration increased to 20 seconds
  
  This makes it less of a micromanagement power and allows it to be less powerful overall, and yet still keeps it relevant. By comparison, with Force Shield + Force Sheath or Telekinetic Shield + Telekinetic Reinforcement, all one has to do is tap the block button and the buff is up and ready to go. Neither need to ramp up, both only cost 1 advantage point (which is fine), and Force Shield in particular even gives energy as though the player was blocking.
  
  Or for something completely new:
  
  - 1 advantage point
  - Tapping block applies Voracious Darkness to the player (no longer stacking or on-damage)
  - Similar damage reduction as Force Sheath
  - Ebon Void's heal + damage effect can trigger while Voracious darkness is active.
  
  
  Vicious Descent - Now that it's become significantly less powerful, there's practically no reason to take it over the other gap closing abilities. Let's compare:
  
  Vicious Descent:
  - 15 second cooldown
  - 38 energy
  - Tier 2
  - No stun, root, etc
  - AoE damage, mediocre self-buff
  
  All other gap closers
  - 3 second cooldown
  - 9.2, 13, 15, or 19 energy
  - Tier 1
  - Can stun, root, etc the target
  - Single target damage
  
  While the buff is nice, the primary purpose of these abilities is to close gaps. Taking Vicious Descent at this point is nerfing yourself unnecessarily because you can't close gaps as often. Before, that tradeoff was fine because it was a very powerful ability. Not the case anymore
  
  How about this: Remove the gimmick buff using it applies, bump it down to tier 1 with the other gap closers, reduce its cooldown to perhaps 3-6 seconds, reduce its energy cost to perhaps 19-25, and instead of snares or roots, it can keep its AoE to make it stand out. In its current form, it's just not worth taking--I gladly replaced it with one of the tier 1 gap closers.

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  championshewolf Posts: 4,375 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  aesica wrote: »

  I use 2 of those abilities in various builds, so here's my thoughts on them:
  
  Ebon Void - Voracious Darkness really wasn't powerful enough to warrant both an increase to 3 advantage points as well as a reduction in stacking ability. Consider this instead:
  
  - 1 advantage point
  - Stacks to 5
  - Buff duration increased to 20 seconds
  
  This makes it less of a micromanagement power and allows it to be less powerful overall, and yet still keeps it relevant. By comparison, with Force Shield + Force Sheath or Telekinetic Shield + Telekinetic Reinforcement, all one has to do is tap the block button and the buff is up and ready to go. Neither need to ramp up, both only cost 1 advantage point (which is fine), and Force Shield in particular even gives energy as though the player was blocking.
  
  Or for something completely new:
  
  - 1 advantage point
  - Tapping block applies Voracious Darkness to the player (no longer stacking or on-damage)
  - Similar damage reduction as Force Sheath
  - Ebon Void's heal + damage effect can trigger while Voracious darkness is active.

  
  You can't be serious. Considering Ebon Void returns damage and heals, the block even keeping half it's potency with it's advantage is still too much. And this is not a hard effect to maintain, like at all. If you want some enlightenment, Voracious Darkness was not suppose to linger, like at all. I forget when it was changed but it got turned into a linger. It's still better than Laser Knight which comes with a -10% damage penalty, and all you have to do is maintain it, which has no effort behind it.
  

  Vicious Descent - Now that it's become significantly less powerful, there's practically no reason to take it over the other gap closing abilities. Let's compare:
  
  Vicious Descent:
  - 15 second cooldown
  - 38 energy
  - Tier 2
  - No stun, root, etc
  - AoE damage, mediocre self-buff
  
  All other gap closers
  - 3 second cooldown
  - 9.2, 13, 15, or 19 energy
  - Tier 1
  - Can stun, root, etc the target
  - Single target damage
  
  While the buff is nice, the primary purpose of these abilities is to close gaps. Taking Vicious Descent at this point is nerfing yourself unnecessarily because you can't close gaps as often. Before, that tradeoff was fine because it was a very powerful ability. Not the case anymore
  
  How about this: Remove the gimmick buff using it applies, bump it down to tier 1 with the other gap closers, reduce its cooldown to perhaps 3-6 seconds, reduce its energy cost to perhaps 19-25, and instead of snares or roots, it can keep its AoE to make it stand out. In its current form, it's just not worth taking--I gladly replaced it with one of the tier 1 gap closers.

  
  Contrary to this believe, Vicious decent isn't a gap closer, it's more or less an aggro puller for groups something you use to get in for the first hit. It also does more damage as well and it's AE. And while you consider the buff "not meaningful" and you are more than welcome to that feeling, I am sure some will take it for thematic or use it as it is. You already have your other gap closer if you need something on a shorter CD.​​

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  avianos Posts: 6,028 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  Fire Framework
  New Power: Absorb Heat
  Absorb Heat consumes all of your Clinging Flames on foes and heals you and your team based on the number consumed.
  This power also applies a heal over time based on the number of clinging flames consumed.
  This power is free to freeform players.

  
  Tested this a little yesterday night
  
  Why is the Animation so... Awkward!
  I don't like how my Heavy Weapon character was Farting Fire patches out of nowhere so I didn't add it in my Build
  
  
  Yeah... this forced Fire synergy with HW... not liking it

  Annihilate
  Moved to tier 3.
  New Advantage: Scorching Blade Annihilate deals an additional 30% damage against targets affected by clinging flames.
  Damage increased slightly.

  NOT Going to sacrifice my RANK 3 Annihilate Visual for the bonus damage ADV​​

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  avianos Posts: 6,028 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  Dark Blast
  Now debuffs Dimensional resistance by 18%

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  The Devoid Debuff Icon is a RACOON :U
  Wasn't expecting the VIPER'S trappers debuffs icons to be used here...1

  Telekinetic Maelstrom no longer scatters rock debris FX.

  YEEEEES! No more fear of this power! I can spam it like no tomorrow

  Decimate
  Decimate's initial delay when activating has been reduced slightly.

  
  The change is really Noticeable​​

  Post edited by avianos on March 2016

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  beerbane Posts: 197 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  Mentioned this in the PTS thread but wanted to see if others were experiencing the issue: On live I bought the Stereo Glider Hoverboard skin (not the vehicle, but the costume skin) off of the AH for one of my toons with the hoverboard TP. I click the item, but it indicates the costume is already unlocked. However, the skin is not available at the tailor and the unlock is still in my inventory with the blue mask on it, as if I hadn't clicked on it. Anyone else getting this?
  
  Edit: If I try to drag the costume to devices, it states 'Only devices can go there.' Just to clarify I'm not sitting there clicking on the vehicle.

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  zer0x0ne Posts: 113 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  decorumfriends said:

  zer0x0ne said:

  A dissenting post I made about something else in these patch notes was quite quickly removed.
  
  

  I don't know your situation, but nearly every time we've had these kinds of accusations, it turns out the posts were removed for obvious other reasons than complaining.
  
  

  It was a one sentence, three word post with an emoticon at the end. I assure you, it broke no other rules.
  
  

  Post edited by zer0x0ne on March 2016

  
  

  

  
  

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  aesica Posts: 2,537 Arc User

  March 2016

  championshewolf said:

  You can't be serious. Considering Ebon Void returns damage and heals, the block even keeping half it's potency with it's advantage is still too much. And this is not a hard effect to maintain, like at all. If you want some enlightenment, Voracious Darkness was not suppose to linger, like at all. I forget when it was changed but it got turned into a linger. It's still better than Laser Knight which comes with a -10% damage penalty, and all you have to do is maintain it, which has no effort behind it.
  

  I never said it was hard to maintain, only that it's heavy on the micromanagement. Technically though, in its current form it can be difficult to maintain if you're not actively taking damage. As in, not the tank.
  
  Also, 3-point advantage costs are absolute cancer, especially since so many advantage points are gobbled up by uninspiring "rank2/rank3" non-choices.

  championshewolf said:

  Contrary to this believe, Vicious decent isn't a gap closer, it's more or less an aggro puller for groups something you use to get in for the first hit. It also does more damage as well and it's AE. And while you consider the buff "not meaningful" and you are more than welcome to that feeling, I am sure some will take it for thematic or use it as it is. You already have your other gap closer if you need something on a shorter CD.​​

  Technically, anything that quickly closes the distance between you and your target is a gap closer. It's a gap closer that tries to be different than the others by featuring an aoe effect, higher cost, and longer cooldown, but it's a gap closer nevertheless. Also, its initial hit is now far less valuable since it does a lot less damage. Now, I can pretty much get the same benefit by popping off any bpaoe after using a more traditional 3s cooldown gap closer.

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  zer0x0ne Posts: 113 Arc User

  March 2016

  Something that didn't make it into these notes, but absolutely should have -
  
  As of this patch, Cosmic mobs no longer appear to award Globals upon defeat.
  
  I guess that must be another one of those 6 and a half year old "bugs" that have been mysteriously uncovered recently.
  
  If this was an intentional change, as opposed to some unintended fluke, I find it odd that it didn't make it into the release notes.

  
  

  

  
  

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  crypticbuxom Posts: 4,595 Arc User

  March 2016

  The only problems I have with this update is that Voracious Darkness should be a 2 point advantage and Cleave no longer lets you gain Enrage reliably on par with Shred and Aspect of the Bestial.​​

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  eviltwintwo Posts: 351 Arc User

  March 2016

  I agree with aesica. Increasing the cost AND decreasing the stacks was too much. And I have never understood why these things cost 3 points. (Any of them, not just Voracious Darkness.) If they cost 2, that would still prevent you from getting rank 3 but would save a point for something else. Not game-breaking, but still.
  
  Oh well, it's their game. If they nerf it enough, we'll all quit playing. But I have to say in all honesty, I have been somewhat expecting something about Ebon Void + Voracious Darkness to get nerfed at some point...because, you know, it worked and made your character tougher. It remains to be seen if it will be worth keeping on the characters I have it on; they may have killed at least one of my FF builds.
  
  Here's hoping it's just something we can get used to.

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  aesica Posts: 2,537 Arc User

  March 2016

  Personally, I'm not a big fan of the design behind rank 2/rank 3 advantages. I mean yeah, they're really important, but they're also extremely uninteresting and they get in the way with what could be a choice between several more interesting ways to flavor our powers. "I'd love to take this thing that makes Power X behave in a new and interesting way...but nope! Gotta make my numbers bigger!"

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  avianos Posts: 6,028 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  Cowboyification Ray
  Reduced cooldown to 10 seconds.
  No longer restricted to just Foxbatcon.
  Duration increased to 20 seconds.
  After the hat expires, players are immune to hatification for 10 minutes.
  These devices are disabled in the powerhouse theater and club caprice.

  
  
  Makes me wonder why wasn't those chances made from the First Foxbatcon, it would save so much from the drama and the AntiFan-Police
  I find the device hilarious and I welcomed when people use it on my characters~

  Firesnake
  Debuff no longer scale with rank. It now provides a flat -3% res to elemental damage and -5% res to fire damage per stack. Firesnake now stacks up to 3 times per player and has a global cap of 9 stacks.
  Firesnake's chance to apply clinging flames is now 10% at R1, 20% at R2, and 30% at R3. Lowered Firesnake's cooldown to 25 seconds (from 30).

  
  My only complain! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THE FIRE SNAKE VISUALS?
  
  It doesn't look like a snake at all!
  
  since it required a target to summon, it need to get fixed to trigger concetration/chilled form
  

  Skewer
  No longer applies Enrage.
  Moved to Tier 3.
  Cost increased to fit the amount of damage it deals.
  Now has a 22-50% chance to apply Bleed.

  
  and WHY would you remove the ENRAGED building from Skewer!?
  Just make it work ONLY with the enraged forms​​

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  legendarylycan

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  March 2016

  avianos wrote: »

  My only complain! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THE FIRE SNAKE VISUALS?
  
  It doesn't look like a snake at all!

  
  it didn't look like one before! it just looked like a trail of fire
  
  when i picture 'fire snake', i'm picturing something like this ​​

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  sterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User

  March 2016

  Proofread your stuff before it goes live. I've already found two copy / paste failures on powers from these patch notes.

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  rtma Posts: 1,198 Arc User

  March 2016 edited March 2016

  avianos said:

  
  since it required a target to summon, it need to get fixed to trigger concetration/chilled form
  
  
  

  
  
  

  Skewer
  
  No longer applies Enrage.
  
  Moved to Tier 3.
  
  Cost increased to fit the amount of damage it deals.
  
  Now has a 22-50% chance to apply Bleed.

  
  
  and WHY would you remove the ENRAGED building from Skewer!?
  
  Just make it work ONLY with the enraged forms​​

  
  
  First, their are a few powers that could trigger Concentration/Chilled Form, Ebon Rift for example, secondly they removed Cleaves Innate Enrage building for Clinging Flames, that's why it's slow to stack with Heavy Weapons now.
  
  

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  rtma Posts: 1,198 Arc User

  March 2016

  avianos said:

  
  
  since it required a target to summon, it need to get fixed to trigger concetration/chilled form
  
  
  

  
  
  

  Skewer
  
  No longer applies Enrage.
  
  Moved to Tier 3.
  
  Cost increased to fit the amount of damage it deals.
  
  Now has a 22-50% chance to apply Bleed.

  
  

  
  and WHY would you remove the ENRAGED building from Skewer!?
  
  Just make it work ONLY with the enraged forms​​
  
  First they could have a few other powers that could trigger Concentration/Chilled Form, like Ebon Rift, secondly they replaced Cleaves Innate enrage building for Clinging Flames/Knockdown, that's why Heavy Weapons are slow to stack now.
  
  

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  I take this quote from a review that I agree with.
  
  "customisation is so linear; everyone is after the optimal dps:survivability ratio with 0 reliance on other players = autonomous gameplay... Players don't need each other anymore... which in my opinion is a bad thing."

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