And the irony of it all, the people doing the lair calling it not hard or even that challenging are the ones constantly being called the elitists, despite taking people that do not fit the so called elite brand that is often prescribed. But the people often calling those doing the lair "elitists" often have profiles, SG rules or so forth that are very much fit the brand of elitist that others despise.
Gotta agree with Spar though being elitist in super hero MMO is pretty dumb. She didn't call out anyone directly in that post so if people take offence to it its really their problem alone. Then someone no pointing elbows ( but it was CO Batman ) goes full Fox Mulder about a guy thats hardly self aware.
God bless every last one of you mad magnificent bas****s.
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Heh....maybe I should have just gone for personal insults and SG rivalry like you did.
Calling out what has been done and the facts hardly constitutes a rivalry about an SG I care nothing about, and the only person that thinks I care is the one who believes they are being persecuted. Again, trying too hard.
Calling out what has been done and the facts hardly constitutes a rivalry about an SG I care nothing about, and the only person that thinks I care is the one who believes they are being persecuted. Again, trying too hard.
Heh...I haven't even begun to try
What "facts" did you have in the quote from you in my last post? And what's all that stuff about "SG rules". You were just rubbishing another SG and player, there wasn't even any humour in your post to fall back on. I don't mind spinny, I actually agree with a lot (but not all) of what they say and they are sometimes pretty funny.
Ok here we go I will give it my best. Maybe if Sodlag and Flawless didnt have leaders that had their heads stuck up their butts with their own self importance their guilds might be still semi active ^_^
Caliga hardly plays or cares about CO and he is still better known than both of you. Rant and rave all you want he wont even notice any of this. Am I pro yet
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What "facts" did you have in the quote from you in my last post? And what's all that stuff about "SG rules". You were just rubbishing another SG and player, there wasn't even any humour in your post to fall back on. I don't mind spinny, I actually agree with a lot (but not all) of what they say and they are sometimes pretty funny.
You two make a cute Conquer tag team though.
Yea, you are definitely tried out. But keep trying. Eventually you will stop dodging what has been said, or not. Don't care.
Calling out what has been done and the facts hardly constitutes a rivalry about an SG I care nothing about, and the only person that thinks I care is the one who believes they are being persecuted. Again, trying too hard.
Heh...I haven't even begun to try
What "facts" did you have in the quote from you in my last post? And what's all that stuff about "SG rules". You were just rubbishing another SG and player, there wasn't even any humour in your post to fall back on. I don't mind spinny, I actually agree with a lot (but not all) of what they say and they are sometimes pretty funny.
You two make a cute Conquer tag team though.
Funny thing, if you make vague comments about people who do things, and a specific individual responds, they basically just outed themselves.
For example, if I say "I hate people who chew too loudly", and some guy says "Hey screw you!"... not only did he just reveal to everyone that he chews loudly, he actually just revealed that he thinks he chews too loudly... otherwise, why would he have thought my comment was directed at him?
Ok here we go I will give it my best. Maybe if Sodlag and Flawless didnt have leaders that had their heads stuck up their butts with their own self importance their guild might be still semi active ^_^
Caliga hardly plays or cares about CO and he is still better known than both of you.
Am I pro yet
You guys are the only ones really doing this nepht.....I have never sought notoriety in this game and FYI, I stepped down as leader of our SG quite a while ago now to spend more time with the tailor. We are in lub.
I never said anything bad about your SG in this thread. I only had a little laugh with you guys.
I'd like all SGs to be active and full of players like they used to be. The huge fall in population in CO is a damn shame. I dunno how you got this "Self-importance" schtick about me either. I never go on about myself or the SG I'm a member of unless it's entirely relevant to a discussion I'm having. Unless you can tell me otherwise.
I also like Caliga and think he's hilarious. He's got his character down to pat and I 'get' him. More power to him.
Calling out what has been done and the facts hardly constitutes a rivalry about an SG I care nothing about, and the only person that thinks I care is the one who believes they are being persecuted. Again, trying too hard.
Heh...I haven't even begun to try
What "facts" did you have in the quote from you in my last post? And what's all that stuff about "SG rules". You were just rubbishing another SG and player, there wasn't even any humour in your post to fall back on. I don't mind spinny, I actually agree with a lot (but not all) of what they say and they are sometimes pretty funny.
You two make a cute Conquer tag team though.
Funny thing, if you make vague comments about people who do things, and a specific individual responds, they basically just outed themselves.
For example, if I say "I hate people who chew too loudly", and some guy says "Hey screw you!"... not only did he just reveal to everyone that he chews loudly, he actually just revealed that he thinks he chews too loudly... otherwise, why would he have responded at all?
Foxi , Foxi , FOXI you missed the point that 60% of the people that posted in this thread is Conquer and we can actully pull off tag teams ^_^
I am loving this its like Hero games forums 2011
Think about this : Conquer is known for being batsh*t insane, Sodlag and Flawless try to be PRO none of this is hurting our rep only theirs. This thread needs a sticky.
Also because Sterga started all this stupid and sorry I have to say this but she is the one that tried and failed to destroy Caliga's SG when she took a hissy fit took half the members and founded Flawless.
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Sodlag and Flawless try to be PRO none of this is hurting our rep only theirs. This thread needs a sticky.
Also because Sterga started all this stupid and sorry I have to say this but she is the one that tried and failed to destroy Caliga's SG when she took a hissy fit took half the members and founded Flawless.
In what way is the SG I'm a member of trying to be"PRO" (I don't even know what this means)?
Sodlag and Flawless try to be PRO none of this is hurting our rep only theirs. This thread needs a sticky.
Also because Sterga started all this stupid and sorry I have to say this but she is the one that tried and failed to destroy Caliga's SG when she took a hissy fit took half the members and founded Flawless.
In what way is the SG I'm a member of trying to be"PRO" (I don't even know what this means)?
SG wars. Your the leader of Sodlag and I have declared war on you guys ( even though ima buddies with some of ya minions )
Look roll with this its good for all three SGs ( free PR from drama is always good ) its obviously what Sterga wanted why not give it to her.
We are the three main SGs we might as well zaibatsu this s**t up.
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Now its just getting boring player vs player NO U. I wanted my Guild Wars ( not that guild wars NC soft can burn in hell U_U )
Conquer, Flawless and Sodlag should merge into the one SG called The League of Egotistical A**hats. We could merge Britannia, Caliga and Sterga into one super ego called BRA-LERGA THE OBNOXIOUS!
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Awww that actually makes me sad. Poking fun at each other aside I do kinda like you. Sodlag without you leading is kinda like Conquer without Caliga leading or Altered Egos without Xeno.
Also I like Silverspar more so shes right :O
Seriously Britannia and Spar both listen. Sterga the person that went off topic badly and caused all this no you is long gone I command both of you to hug. Its just a silly game and should be treated as such.
I am putting the Nepht character away for a second. Im am not Nepht, Silverspar is not Silverspar in RL and Britannia is not Britannia in RL. Foxi is Foxi what you see is what you get :V
The person ( CO Batman ) that caused us four to no u cannot tell a game from reality.
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Seriously Britannia and Spar both listen. Sterga the person that went off topic badly and caused all this no you is long gone I command both of you to hug.
Only if I can use [Flea Powder] on 'er first. I'm assuming she's already been spayed.
How. Did. This. Thread. Devolve. Into. This? >.o It was meant to demonstrate, and help educate folks on how to do this lair efficiently, and successfully. Not bash each other, and their SGs. Cream cheese.
How. Did. This. Thread. Devolve. Into. This? >.o It was meant to demonstrate, and help educate folks on how to do this lair efficiently, and successfully. Not bash each other, and their SGs. Cream cheese.
Ask CO Batman.
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I ran it once and we didn't have a tank (Okay we did, but I was playing DPS with Onslaught bubble gear and I had the aggro 90% of the time) and we did fine. Pretty much 1 healer and others were dps/hybrids. I was actually surprised how smooth the run was. Definately didn't look like the impossible epic lair everyone said it was.
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Nah, but for real though. I kinda wanted to try a regen Tank For a long while and regen was my 2nd choice as a passive defense, But to see two good ones pass through TA On YT and in person too, is pretty sweet! Though, I can defintely agree that you, Silverspar, are indeed a low maintence tank! you know how to block especially with Ebon void maxin' that defense!
You wanna elaborate on that or should we assume you're talking about how you ate too many popsicles and got brain freeze? u3u
Caliga be plotting evil plots to give all dogs brain freezes.
Back on topic I'd say just make sure you have healers or heal devices and some self rez powers and rez devices. You know prep time like Batman ( I mean actual Batman not CO one )
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Here's something different: thank you for posting this. It wasn't boring; instead, it was educational and useful.
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Also a small note: Those dpsers are using a single target 2GM doing 5k... oh isn't that power getting nerfed? And is that an Ebon Void shield I see being used... wasn't that rumored to be getting a pass soon as well? And both tanks using Shred? :P
Steering back towards on-topic...
A small note?
One is, but if you look closer the other is most definitely using wind based powers since I see Wind Gust, Hurricane, Wind Barrier and Typhoon. So it's either a wind-concept toon (Gail Force heh) or given that it looks kinda squishy, a Squall AT.
I don't believe ANY of that powerset has the nerf bat aimed at it (yet). But so much for the thought that an AT can't be useful in TA eh?
I don't understand. Silverspar and Kaiserin(sp?) both look to have personal force fields that almost instantly regenerate. Neither of them were really even taking any serious damage at all! Now I know I'm the furthest thing from a min/maxer but seriously. Whatever they're running is LEAGUES above the average player. At least from my perspective.
It's both inspiring and saddening at the same time. My friends and I tried to run TA and we're all pretty good, but we were wasted by the bosses. Wasted. They weren't even close to being graceful defeats. Granted, we were down one member and only running it with four people but considering how thoroughly trounced we were I doubt a fifth would've made a difference. None of us could keep up with the prodigious damage that they were cranking out. Watching this video is so disconcerting because it seems like these players have no trouble at all with the damage. They facetank hits that would've crumpled my entire team in seconds and come out with barely a scratch.
I'd love to give it another crack, but it just wasn't fun in the end. The portion leading up the bosses was fun and challenging, but once we entered those boss fights the will to continue was sapped and we just went to do something else.
I don't understand. Silverspar and Kaiserin(sp?) both look to have personal force fields that almost instantly regenerate. Neither of them were really even taking any serious damage at all! Now I know I'm the furthest thing from a min/maxer but seriously. Whatever they're running is LEAGUES above the average player. At least from my perspective.
It's both inspiring and saddening at the same time. My friends and I tried to run TA and we're all pretty good, but we were wasted by the bosses. Wasted. They weren't even close to being graceful defeats. Granted, we were down one member and only running it with four people but considering how thoroughly trounced we were I doubt a fifth would've made a difference. None of us could keep up with the prodigious damage that they were cranking out. Watching this video is so disconcerting because it seems like these players have no trouble at all with the damage. They facetank hits that would've crumpled my entire team in seconds and come out with barely a scratch.
I'd love to give it another crack, but it just wasn't fun in the end. The portion leading up the bosses was fun and challenging, but once we entered those boss fights the will to continue was sapped and we just went to do something else.
Actually, there is very little face tanking involved. There is blocking being used almost religiously, especially if I am main tanking. Secondly, those are the tank gauntlets you can get fairly easily from Villain Onslaught. They don't really give a lot of shield power since it works better for higher DPS but every little bit of mitigation helps.
Furthermore, the team support typically has Aura of Radiant Protection, which in itself can give a boon to most if not all of the team. The lair is meant for five people going in and being a team, not five people going in and doing their own thing. And yes, being down a person can hurt your chances, especially depending on that area filled by that one person.
Without seeing what your team is doing I cannot tell you what you are doing wrong, but it's very likely you're missing or trying to ignore mechanics that you just can't ignore. And as far as Kaiserin and myself, I am built to tank. I have always been built to tank. But I still need support of the rest of my team. When I am off tanking I don't need much support because I am regeneration thus the damage I take is fairly insignificant so the support can focus on the rest of the team. But even though being off-tank is fairly dull, it is an important role to fill in this dungeon in particular since if those mobs are loose the support has a hard time performing their role.
I appreciate you responding so quickly! I realize my last post came off as a bit rude, but I didn't mean it that way. I'd like to eventually get to the level you and your team plays at one day, but damn does that hill look steep.
Still, what does your build look like? You say you use regeneration as a slotted passive? Your damage mitigation looks to be pretty high as well, is that all from an Everest-like defense?
For example during the Teliosaurus fight Kaiserin barely even flinched when it used it's breath and bite. Granted blocking was involved but I can tell you I tried to block too, my entire team did. No one could survive the breath weapon.
It just seems like watching you guys is like watching all our hard work circle and go down the drain. We thought we were decent, we though our builds pretty solid. But seeing you guys run makes everything we thought as ephemeral as smoke on the wind.
First thing to realize when it comes to... well anything really, is there is always someone better. And for something of a zen moment if you want to make yourself better you always listen to those that have new and interesting ways for improving yourself. You tend to find things that might actually work for you.
Second my build of the moment is this; Regeneration Tank. I say of the moment because I will always make changes to my current build when the situation makes new plans going forward required. Should never be afraid to make changes for the better of your group, especially in a game where you have that option to be anything.
You shouldn't look at the difficulty as things circling the drain. Could just be something you guys are missing but almost have. Bluhman has a guide written on steam community that can help out people new to the mechanics tremendously.
For example during the Teliosaurus fight Kaiserin barely even flinched when it used it's breath and bite. Granted blocking was involved but I can tell you I tried to block too, my entire team did. No one could survive the breath weapon.
my entire team did. No one could survive the breath weapon.
Why was your entire team being hit by the breath weapon? o_O You aint s'pose' do that u3u
Listen, in-game send me a friend request @foxiandfriends. You say you went in with four people? I'll be your fifth, I have dps tank and healer so I can fill whatever role is open. I'll look at what you're doing and see if maybe I can give you some pointers. I've been in a lot of groups with people who were new to the lair so don't worry I'm quite used to runs with a bunch of wipes, and it's really satisfying being there when new people get their first win ^_^
For example during the Teliosaurus fight Kaiserin barely even flinched when it used it's breath and bite. Granted blocking was involved but I can tell you I tried to block too, my entire team did. No one could survive the breath weapon.
my entire team did. No one could survive the breath weapon.
Why was your entire team being hit by the breath weapon? o_O You aint s'pose' do that u3u
Listen, in-game send me a friend request @foxiandfriends. You say you went in with four people? I'll be your fifth, I have dps tank and healer so I can fill whatever role is open. I'll look at what you're doing and see if maybe I can give you some pointers. I've been in a lot of groups with people who were new to the lair so don't worry I'm quite used to runs with a bunch of wipes, and it's really satisfying being there when new people get their first win ^_^
It was more a domino effect, our tank went down to the breath, then I tried to step up, went down to the bite (while blocking) and then the Breath caught the healer who went to rez the tank (healer blocking). I think at that point our other DPS committed seppuku.
We're all going to take a step back and re-evaluate our builds and gearing, but once we try it again we'd love to have you along if we need a fifth!
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Really trying too hard there.
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Also this thread didnt get derailed its got DERANGED! Only Champions Online can go full X Files Vs Street Fighter in a thread about tanks.
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Then someone no pointing elbows ( but it was CO Batman ) goes full Fox Mulder about a guy thats hardly self aware.
God bless every last one of you mad magnificent bas****s.
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Calling out what has been done and the facts hardly constitutes a rivalry about an SG I care nothing about, and the only person that thinks I care is the one who believes they are being persecuted. Again, trying too hard.
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What "facts" did you have in the quote from you in my last post? And what's all that stuff about "SG rules". You were just rubbishing another SG and player, there wasn't even any humour in your post to fall back on. I don't mind spinny, I actually agree with a lot (but not all) of what they say and they are sometimes pretty funny.
You two make a cute Conquer tag team though.
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Ok here we go I will give it my best. Maybe if Sodlag and Flawless didnt have leaders that had their heads stuck up their butts with their own self importance their guilds might be still semi active ^_^
Caliga hardly plays or cares about CO and he is still better known than both of you.
Rant and rave all you want he wont even notice any of this.
Am I pro yet
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Yea, you are definitely tried out. But keep trying. Eventually you will stop dodging what has been said, or not. Don't care.
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For example, if I say "I hate people who chew too loudly", and some guy says "Hey screw you!"... not only did he just reveal to everyone that he chews loudly, he actually just revealed that he thinks he chews too loudly... otherwise, why would he have thought my comment was directed at him?
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I never said anything bad about your SG in this thread. I only had a little laugh with you guys.
I'd like all SGs to be active and full of players like they used to be. The huge fall in population in CO is a damn shame. I dunno how you got this "Self-importance" schtick about me either. I never go on about myself or the SG I'm a member of unless it's entirely relevant to a discussion I'm having. Unless you can tell me otherwise.
I also like Caliga and think he's hilarious. He's got his character down to pat and I 'get' him. More power to him.
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I am loving this its like Hero games forums 2011
Think about this : Conquer is known for being batsh*t insane, Sodlag and Flawless try to be PRO none of this is hurting our rep only theirs. This thread needs a sticky.
Also because Sterga started all this stupid and sorry I have to say this but she is the one that tried and failed to destroy Caliga's SG when she took a hissy fit took half the members and founded Flawless.
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Look roll with this its good for all three SGs ( free PR from drama is always good ) its obviously what Sterga wanted why not give it to her.
We are the three main SGs we might as well zaibatsu this s**t up.
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Conquer, Flawless and Sodlag should merge into the one SG called The League of Egotistical A**hats. We could merge Britannia, Caliga and Sterga into one super ego called BRA-LERGA THE OBNOXIOUS!
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Didn't dodge any questions or attack. But nice try. Though it's hilarious you are the only one using personal attacks.
Do keep trying though.
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Also I like Silverspar more so shes right :O
Seriously Britannia and Spar both listen. Sterga the person that went off topic badly and caused all this no you is long gone I command both of you to hug. Its just a silly game and should be treated as such.
I am putting the Nepht character away for a second. Im am not Nepht, Silverspar is not Silverspar in RL and Britannia is not Britannia in RL. Foxi is Foxi what you see is what you get :V
The person ( CO Batman ) that caused us four to no u cannot tell a game from reality.
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This is getting amusing.
Let's see what else you can post up, I am on the edge of my seat.
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This is officially dullsville now Conquer gals and I have a date with the tailor.
It's been cool kinda chatting with ya nepht. Have fun.
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Nah, but for real though. I kinda wanted to try a regen Tank For a long while and regen was my 2nd choice as a passive defense, But to see two good ones pass through TA On YT and in person too, is pretty sweet! Though, I can defintely agree that you, Silverspar, are indeed a low maintence tank! you know how to block especially with Ebon void maxin' that defense!
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Back on topic I'd say just make sure you have healers or heal devices and some self rez powers and rez devices. You know prep time like Batman ( I mean actual Batman not CO one )
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A small note?
One is, but if you look closer the other is most definitely using wind based powers since I see Wind Gust, Hurricane, Wind Barrier and Typhoon. So it's either a wind-concept toon (Gail Force heh) or given that it looks kinda squishy, a Squall AT.
I don't believe ANY of that powerset has the nerf bat aimed at it (yet). But so much for the thought that an AT can't be useful in TA eh?
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It's both inspiring and saddening at the same time. My friends and I tried to run TA and we're all pretty good, but we were wasted by the bosses. Wasted. They weren't even close to being graceful defeats. Granted, we were down one member and only running it with four people but considering how thoroughly trounced we were I doubt a fifth would've made a difference. None of us could keep up with the prodigious damage that they were cranking out. Watching this video is so disconcerting because it seems like these players have no trouble at all with the damage. They facetank hits that would've crumpled my entire team in seconds and come out with barely a scratch.
I'd love to give it another crack, but it just wasn't fun in the end. The portion leading up the bosses was fun and challenging, but once we entered those boss fights the will to continue was sapped and we just went to do something else.
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Actually, there is very little face tanking involved. There is blocking being used almost religiously, especially if I am main tanking. Secondly, those are the tank gauntlets you can get fairly easily from Villain Onslaught. They don't really give a lot of shield power since it works better for higher DPS but every little bit of mitigation helps.
Furthermore, the team support typically has Aura of Radiant Protection, which in itself can give a boon to most if not all of the team. The lair is meant for five people going in and being a team, not five people going in and doing their own thing. And yes, being down a person can hurt your chances, especially depending on that area filled by that one person.
Without seeing what your team is doing I cannot tell you what you are doing wrong, but it's very likely you're missing or trying to ignore mechanics that you just can't ignore. And as far as Kaiserin and myself, I am built to tank. I have always been built to tank. But I still need support of the rest of my team. When I am off tanking I don't need much support because I am regeneration thus the damage I take is fairly insignificant so the support can focus on the rest of the team. But even though being off-tank is fairly dull, it is an important role to fill in this dungeon in particular since if those mobs are loose the support has a hard time performing their role.
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Still, what does your build look like? You say you use regeneration as a slotted passive? Your damage mitigation looks to be pretty high as well, is that all from an Everest-like defense?
For example during the Teliosaurus fight Kaiserin barely even flinched when it used it's breath and bite. Granted blocking was involved but I can tell you I tried to block too, my entire team did. No one could survive the breath weapon.
It just seems like watching you guys is like watching all our hard work circle and go down the drain. We thought we were decent, we though our builds pretty solid. But seeing you guys run makes everything we thought as ephemeral as smoke on the wind.
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Second my build of the moment is this; Regeneration Tank. I say of the moment because I will always make changes to my current build when the situation makes new plans going forward required. Should never be afraid to make changes for the better of your group, especially in a game where you have that option to be anything.
You shouldn't look at the difficulty as things circling the drain. Could just be something you guys are missing but almost have. Bluhman has a guide written on steam community that can help out people new to the mechanics tremendously.
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Listen, in-game send me a friend request @foxiandfriends. You say you went in with four people? I'll be your fifth, I have dps tank and healer so I can fill whatever role is open. I'll look at what you're doing and see if maybe I can give you some pointers. I've been in a lot of groups with people who were new to the lair so don't worry I'm quite used to runs with a bunch of wipes, and it's really satisfying being there when new people get their first win ^_^
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We're all going to take a step back and re-evaluate our builds and gearing, but once we try it again we'd love to have you along if we need a fifth!
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