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DEVS, Y U NO FIX BAT FLIGHT?!?!?

notyuunotyuu Posts: 1,121 Arc User
in Suggestions Box
bat flight as it stands is a near useless travel power, because you can't attack while using it (despite being able to with scarab flight, which is nearly identical) which wouldn't be a problem if the power stealthd you from NPCs when you used it..but guess what, it does do that eaither...

so the bottom line is this, eaither add stealth or the ability to attack while using batflight to the power.
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,194 Arc User
    To make things ever worse! Doesn't Bat Flight from the BECOME VAMPIRE device allows you to attack while you use it?

    Yeah this Travel Power needs more love, it's basically HIT ME NOW power​​
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    Strangely enough, Bat Flight works just like Scarab Flight under water. While submerged, you can access your entire power tray.
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,194 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    roughbearmattach wrote: »
    Strangely enough, Bat Flight works just like Scarab Flight under water. While submerged, you can access your entire power tray.

    WAIT WHAAAAAAAAAT?


    let me test it!

    EDIT: IT WORKS! all my powers works underwater and in lemuria!
    Ironically I had been in Lemuria so many times with the character with Bat Flight as secondary TP, but never tested

    Bat Flight + Sword Cyclone = BAT TORNADO! my god this is AWESOME!

    Ok this power definatly was meant to work in combat!

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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,397 Arc User
    I would say add this to the known power bugs thread but PWE needs to fix their darn forums so we can edit out posts more then an hour back.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Did some more investigating about Bat Flight.

    While using R3 Bat Flight, my toon is able to

    Block (including darkness block power)
    Turn on a form (Compassion)
    Activate AO and AD (Ego Surge, Ascension, and Field Surge)

    I suspect that all other toggles and self-targeting powers would be usable, too.

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  • soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    Heh, Bat Flight is not the only one like this, Shadow Skull Flight also doesn't allow attacking while active.
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,194 Arc User
    soulforger wrote: »
    Heh, Bat Flight is not the only one like this, Shadow Skull Flight also doesn't allow attacking while active.

    Well actually no, Shadow Skull Flight outright states that its Travel Power - Non Combat in the Description​​
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  • soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    avianos said:



    soulforger wrote: »

    Heh, Bat Flight is not the only one like this, Shadow Skull Flight also doesn't allow attacking while active.


    Well actually no, Shadow Skull Flight outright states that its Travel Power - Non Combat in the Description​​

    If thats the case, than all Bat Flight is missing is it stating that its a non-combat flight. And you guys will still insist that they change it. So might as well fix all Travel Powers that act that way. Bat Flight is not broken, its miss labeled.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    roughbearmattach said:

    Did some more investigating about Bat Flight.

    While using R3 Bat Flight, my toon is able to

    Block (including darkness block power)
    Turn on a form (Compassion)
    Activate AO and AD (Ego Surge, Ascension, and Field Surge)


    Can all of those powers be used with Shadow Skull flight? Can powers be used while underwater with Shadow Skull flight?

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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,194 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    soulforger wrote: »

    soulforger wrote: »
    Heh, Bat Flight is not the only one like this, Shadow Skull Flight also doesn't allow attacking while active.



    Well actually no, Shadow Skull Flight outright states that its Travel Power - Non Combat in the Description

    If thats the case, than all Bat Flight is missing is it stating that its a non-combat flight. And you guys will still insist that they change it. So might as well fix all Travel Powers that act that way. Bat Flight is not broken, its miss labeled.

    AGAIN! Become Vampire's Bat Flight WORKS in combat!
    roughbearmattach wrote: »
    Did some more investigating about Bat Flight.

    While using R3 Bat Flight, my toon is able to

    Block (including darkness block power)
    Turn on a form (Compassion)
    Activate AO and AD (Ego Surge, Ascension, and Field Surge)




    Can all of those powers be used with Shadow Skull flight? Can powers be used while underwater with Shadow Skull flight?

    Ah yes, AD/AO work and self heals with Bat Flight, forgot to mention it

    I don't have Skull Flight to test it myself Unfortenly​​
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  • soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    avianos said:



    AGAIN! Become Vampire's Bat Flight WORKS in combat!


    Becomes have different travel powers than the players. Have you guys ever stopped to think that maybe they messed up on Become Vampire's travel power? No? Well, perhaps they did.

    And seriously, is it so wrong to ask that Skull Flight be given the same treatment as any other flight that allows enemies to attack you while traveling?
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,194 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Not at all Actually! It would make the Travel Power more interesting and appealing as well​​
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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,397 Arc User
    edited September 2015
    Skull flight looks okay, but I never use it as it gives me nothing in favor of losing the ability to fight in combat. If Skull Flight were faster, prevented being targeted, or even gave some sort of bonus damage reduction or healing or something like that then I might consider using it, but as is, it's at best relegated to a secondary travel power choice, and a highly specialized one at that. Skull Flight and Bat flight are probably two of the worst travel powers in the game. I'd rather use ninja vanish as a secondary travel power as it can get you out of combat.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    For me, I sometimes take a one of these travel powers at level 35, since my primary tp is primary for a reason. Heck, I sometimes just take two versions of flight for their VFX.

    Still, I agree with @guyhumual that something like Shadow Skull needs a raison d'etre. Cape Glide is non-combat, but it is very, very fast. Shadow Skull needs some kicker besides its VFX. Bat Flight should allow full combat.
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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,397 Arc User
    roughbearmattach said:

    For me, I sometimes take a one of these travel powers at level 35, since my primary tp is primary for a reason. Heck, I sometimes just take two versions of flight for their VFX.

    Still, I agree with @guyhumual that something like Shadow Skull needs a raison d'etre. Cape Glide is non-combat, but it is very, very fast. Shadow Skull needs some kicker besides its VFX. Bat Flight should allow full combat.

    I was going to mention cape flight, it's one of my favorite powers, and it's non combat. The speed makes up for the lack of combat for sure, the fact that it's a typical super hero power helps as well, but the big difference is that it fills a needed role very well. Even in combat this travel power will get you out of a fight pretty quickly. Bat flight needs to usable in combat and skull flight needs, as roughbearmattach puts it, a justification for it existing. I'm sorry, but looking cool is not a justification for questionite cost.
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,194 Arc User
    I would be interested to buy Shadow Skull if it was available for incombat!

    Not a fan of Skull PAC-MAN but i could use it for amusing power attacks combinations​​
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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,397 Arc User
    What might be fitting is if it had some sort of fear aura. You're not traveling faster but if opponents want to attack you they'll have reduced damage for 12 seconds.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    guyhumual said:

    What might be fitting is if it had some sort of fear aura. You're not traveling faster but if opponents want to attack you they'll have reduced damage for 12 seconds.

    Or how about Shadow Skull Flight bestows very, very high aggro stealth?
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  • slapperfishslapperfish Posts: 92 Arc User
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,194 Arc User
    slapperfish wrote: »
    I believe one of the devs said a while back that Scarab Flight is actually supposed to be a non-combat travel power, just like Bat Flight and Shadow Skull Flight.

    Well time to turn BUGs into Features then (the become Mummy also can use Scarab Flight in combat)
    The powers are better and more appealing with being combat friendly​​
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  • guyhumualguyhumual Posts: 2,397 Arc User
    roughbearmattach said:

    guyhumual said:

    What might be fitting is if it had some sort of fear aura. You're not traveling faster but if opponents want to attack you they'll have reduced damage for 12 seconds.

    Or how about Shadow Skull Flight bestows very, very high aggro stealth?
    That works as well. It needs something IMO though.
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