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The "Too many attacks" Challenge!
KagamiTheMagicalCatGerl
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Hello everyone!
So basically here is the challenge, make a build with these stipulations:
- You may pick as many passives as you like
- You may pick as many forms as you like
- You may pick as many energy unlocks as you like
- You may pick as many block replacers as you like
- You may pick as many Active Offenses as you like
- You MUST pick either the Ranged DPS or Melee DPS role
- You may NOT stat Constitution or put any points into Constitution in any way whatsoever
- You may NOT pick any Active Defenses
- You may pick TWO powers that either heal or shield you - any power that heals you for any amount is in this category, no matter how little
- You may NOT use slotted gear - nemesis gear is okay
- AT LEAST 9 of your chosen powers must be attacks ( any power that deals damage, performs crowd control, but does not heal or shield you ) - bonus points for having more than that
- Furthermore, when talking about your build you must be able to explain under what circumstances each power is used
- All attacks must in some way be relevant, no "appendix" powers
- Two powers may not have the absolute same purpose, there must be some difference in how/when/for what reason they are used, even if subtle.
The next part of the challenge is to rush Grab Alerts using this build. What does that mean? It means when the alert starts you charge towards the nearest group of enemies and start attacking them as hard and fast as you can, regardless if the group follows or not - bonus points if you purposely move in the opposite direction from your party in order to take groups on solo. You may level to 15-20 before starting this part of the challenge, but bonus points if you do it sooner.
For you entry, list your build, talk about how your attacks are used, and talk about your experiences in grabs. If you feel that experiences doing other content are noteworthy, talk about those as well.
So basically here is the challenge, make a build with these stipulations:
- You may pick as many passives as you like
- You may pick as many forms as you like
- You may pick as many energy unlocks as you like
- You may pick as many block replacers as you like
- You may pick as many Active Offenses as you like
- You MUST pick either the Ranged DPS or Melee DPS role
- You may NOT stat Constitution or put any points into Constitution in any way whatsoever
- You may NOT pick any Active Defenses
- You may pick TWO powers that either heal or shield you - any power that heals you for any amount is in this category, no matter how little
- You may NOT use slotted gear - nemesis gear is okay
- AT LEAST 9 of your chosen powers must be attacks ( any power that deals damage, performs crowd control, but does not heal or shield you ) - bonus points for having more than that
- Furthermore, when talking about your build you must be able to explain under what circumstances each power is used
- All attacks must in some way be relevant, no "appendix" powers
- Two powers may not have the absolute same purpose, there must be some difference in how/when/for what reason they are used, even if subtle.
The next part of the challenge is to rush Grab Alerts using this build. What does that mean? It means when the alert starts you charge towards the nearest group of enemies and start attacking them as hard and fast as you can, regardless if the group follows or not - bonus points if you purposely move in the opposite direction from your party in order to take groups on solo. You may level to 15-20 before starting this part of the challenge, but bonus points if you do it sooner.
For you entry, list your build, talk about how your attacks are used, and talk about your experiences in grabs. If you feel that experiences doing other content are noteworthy, talk about those as well.
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I think this comes off as trolling Alert PUGs, even if that was not the intent.
Funny thing is, several of my level 40 toons already conform to the build requirements, though without the Grab Alert behavior.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
Most of which results in everyone else getting hit when the mobs kill them and they turn to the next targets.
Spinnytop, I've seen do it successfully in 2minute drill. AS in round them up then splat them, without losing them or getting other party members killed.
For the other opposing challenge, you get all defences with 1 attack and run up to mobs, attack , block and pull them all back to the rest of the party.
Keep doing this until all mobs are killed or all players leave in disgust.
Yes we have a lot of those ingame already too.
BTW, you OP was in the middle of the night for me, only just seeing it 6am.
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This is how I approach every Grab I've ever que'd for, and in all that time there has only been 1 person who complained about it. It's not trolling when you carry the group - if you're not carrying the group, you can assume you are not succeeding particularly well at the challenge ~_^
This challenge is about being a boss, without needing to use "one of those builds"... you know, the builds that make it easy to be a boss.
Thanks, though.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
There's more than that when you consider just how glass cannon we're going here, and the situations you're throwing that glass cannon into. For example, fast attacks vs slow attacks; they become relevant when you could die after taking a full second's worth of damage from a bunch of mobs. So for example in some situations you need an attack that's going to hit decently RIGHT NOW, or apply a solid knock immediately, while other situations you can wait for a charge.
Also, attacks that let you remain mobile can be very important when your primary mode of defense is movement. Don't forget stuns and roots in your crowd controls. Then also, depending on the energy hungriness of your build, there could also be efficiency powers which are meant to keep you pumping out damage without bankrupting your energy bar.
As you can see, this is basically how I've been achieving my goal of making the game more interesting for myself... by making brittle glass cannons and throwing them at as many npcs at once as possible, and trying to deal with those circumstances without resorting to the "EZ-Mode I-Win" buttons, and without running away.
I've noticed there are a lot of supposed "build pros" in this game who talk big, but would never touch this challenge with a twenty foot pole ~.^
Thanks for stopping by. ...wait... so you did the thing you implied was trolling alerts a half dozen times? Well you're just terrible aren't you
I'm not interested in the gameplay aspect of the challenge. I prefer more cooperative team play, even the unspoken team work that happens in many PUGs for alerts. In fact, I try to look at what other players are doing in a GRAB alert, and then adjust my play style to complement them.
I get the idea here, though:
As you know, I make themed builds featuring favorite powers, often at the expense of being "the best". I also view tricky builds as a way to make the game more interesting. That's why I made my Chain Lightning build in the One Trick Pony challenge.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
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Bad building? lol, according to what mindset? I see you're one of those people who thinks "build my way or you're wrong"
Ruining alerts? lol, like I said I've only ever had one complaint in all my years of playing like this, quite a few people seemed pretty happy about it.
leet skills? lol, you're the one glorifying "pro builders" and saying anyone who builds otherwise is making "newbie mistakes" or "newbiebuilds". yeah, I'm a real elitist, the way I acknowledge that any build is fine if played right and don't imply that people are newbies for building the way that's fun for them xD
It is interesting though... you say my builds are newbiebuilds... but yet they're powerful enough to "ruin alerts" by stomping all the NPCs. I'd love to see you explain how that one works lol
What's funny is, I'm not trolling at all... but you definitely ended up trolling yourself into that outburst
I apologize for mis-speaking earlier.
I am in agreement that playing non-optimized builds is often much more fun me, since I like to have to make powers work in a given situation.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
Check out who forgot what game they're playing. Whoever has aggro and survives is the tank. hint hint, that's the point of the challenge. Oh what, did you convince yourself the point was to run in, die, and have the mobs aggro on everyone else? LOL, interpretation indeed.
You're the only one who tried to call me elite, remember cupcake?
You're also the one who keeps talking about yourself being a probuilder C:
HAHAHAHA, OH WOW!
Sure, that's what "newbiemistakes" and "newbiebuilds" was. You not mocking people.
Sure. That's why you're doing this in response to a challenge that nobody actually asked you specifically to complete. You totally didn't see someone talk about pro-builders who are afraid of a challenge, when they didn't name you at all, and jump at the chance to associate yourself with that comment. You're totally not assuming the comment was directed at you, and your ego totally didn't get hurt by your own imaginings of that being true. Not at all. C:
Anyways, if you could stop trolling my thread I'd appreciate it. Hey, maybe get back to your own challenge thread? ^_^
People have many playstyles. Different challenge ideas appeal to different players. On the forums, the #gimpmybuild appealed to many of us. The One Trick Pony challenge only appealed to a few. Too Many Attacks seems to apply to only one.
It's okay. People can like different things.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
If you have a build that can solo the mob and clear them without breaking a sweat, all the more power to you. At least you have something to make up for not sticking with the team. However this proposed "challenge" represents the complete opposite of that kind of build.
Some of them sure. But there are definitely some pro-builders who are mortified of not looking completely pro in front of other people. You certainly can't be trying to say that all "pro builders" have the same personality and motivations, can you?
Now the question is... when I say that some pro-builders are scared of a real challenge, do you immediately assume that I'm talking about you despite me not actually putting any names in there? ~_^
They sure can, and I wasn't trying to force anyone to take the challenge. Some people may have assumed that I was, but I sure can't be blamed for their assumptions.
Keep in mind, I never actually pointed to anyone and said "You're scared to take the challenge!". I just said that there were some people, and someone just jumped right into the cross hairs of that statement and assumed it was about them super hard. Hell, I was surprised when that person did that, because I didn't actually know anything about them and didn't realize they even considered themselves a super hard-core pro-builder ( they never indicated as such until after they'd assumed my statement was about them ). That's the thing that person seems to be missing... the only one implying they're scared of this challenge is them ~_^ even now. Go ahead and read the thread, you'll see I never once called them out for being scared.
The people I do this with in grab alerts don't seem to think it's trolling. I think the scenario going on in your head and the one that's part of this challenge are very different. Mine ends with a speedy and successful alert. Perhaps you're taking on more than you can handle? Doing this requires that you be able to gauge that you know.
Yes, pretty lights and booms are the reason I build like this. Sitting there spamming buffs and heals on self is boring.
However, if you're not rushing the grab alerts then you didn't do this challenge, as that is definitely part of this. After all, anyone can make this build and then take it easy - for this challenge you gotta work hard!