for RP... Good SG / Bad SG ???

magnathyr1

Had the thought of running 2 SG's under same leadership, with one SG being for the "Good Guys" while the other is for the "Bad Guys"..... Would register at a guild site called "Oppositions" for instance, where the player would have forum access for both SG's

The idea being that you could have another player create a villain character to oppose your good guy..... this would allow you to have another player interacting with you through RP and PVP as your nemesis.

Of course everything would be agreed upon, moderated, or preplanned for those particular situations.

This would also allow you to be the hero with a very detailed nemesis, as well as create a character for the "Bad Guy" SG to be somebody elses Nemesis

If the good guy loses, his friends arrive just in time to dirve off the villain and/or save their friend..... If the bad guy loses, some of his buddies show up to drive off the heros or they bust their buddy out of lockup afterwords.

give me your thoughts

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chalupaoffury

I've done this a few times with a few groups, most notably when I was an officery-type in Noir Fiction.

WARNING: THIS LEADS TO A LOT OF DRAMA IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL.

It's a riot when it works, but you want to be *SURE* ground rules are laid out in advance. And if a single one of you plays a Mary Sue unstoppable behemoth, just give up. It's gonna explode, it has *every single time I've tried*. Pay very special attention to the godmoding aspect of things, because there's always that guy that has to be the unstoppable badass with the not-weakness that can crush planets. It *will* come up, and you *will* need a way to deal with them.

Heaven help you if that special snowflake ends up in charge of the opposition SG.

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jerax1011

gradii wrote: »

I don't know anyone anything like what you describe.

Godmoding = Attempting to force an outcome in an RP situation against the will and rules of the other player and character.

I've never once run into that and never met anyone who directly tried it. Closest I was to someone who tried that was a bad experience I had in a previous RP sg where i was told my character was somehow not allowed to attempt resisting certain actions.

I've since left that sg and created my own based on Comic book world principles and being true to your character design.

Special snowflake? Each and every character is a special snowflake. Each and every character deserves equal respect in RP.

I'll remind you you've never RPed with me seriously once. Since your post smacks of a disgusting, immature, hateful, and libelous attack on a well developed, well constructed, rule based, balanced yet powerful character, who I have spent years working on and years defending against venom.

If you in any way were thinking of me in that post? Come at me bro. I'll expose the stupidity of that action with my own arguments, evidence, and player experience.

If you weren't, I apologize but be more careful how you word things.

First off Taco didn't mention names or anything specific in regards to situations. So anything you read that seemed to have been aimed at you is JUST IN YOUR HEAD. So stop. Just stop.

Now, having RPed heavily when I first l played Champs, I have encountered several situations where godmoding was used several times and in one of my former SGs it caused the group to disband as a result. The whole concept of a "special snowflake" is just that. It's a character (or player) that feels the need to point out how unique and unlike everyone else they are. The issue with this is that they are in a world of other characters that have a myriad of abilities and traits that make any other character kinda normal. Does this mean that every character is equally powerful or even well thought out? No, but if anyone has to depend on their character's uniqueness as a trait? Personally to me that speaks more about the lack of a developed character than anything. It's the same concept as a karate master and their understanding that they don't have to prove them selves to be a master to know they are one.

Back to the OP. I think it's a great idea, but along with Taco's suggestions, the ground rules and leaders of both SGs MUST be on the same page or it will fall apart rather quickly.

chalupaoffury

Actually, I specifically mentioned the RP SG I experienced it with. I dunno if you're illiterate or what, but I prefaced the entire post with a situation I experienced it in.

I'm specifically trying not to fight with you. Keep it up though, and you might just get your wish.

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theravenforce

From reading the OP:

- I think this is a great idea.

I will echo what the Keeper of The Cheesecake has said as well as Taco. Rules are pretty much very necessary so it doesn't get out of hand.

Just make sure everyone you are playing with has a good level of common sense and desire to have fun, the last thing you'd want is for this to turn incredibly sour because of one or two people who get super pissy about being saved by someone or being in a tough situation.

Also one thing that tends to happen a lot is a lack of listening/reading what people say because people jump the gun or something, can nullify a good RP experience.

If you are PvPing (in game combat style), make sure everyone is aware of that from the start and make sure they are building for concept not to just win with "magical guns" or unexplained powers and all sorts stuffed into a character whose concept is to "win". Also make sure everyone is open about what is going to happen, would be nice to know if someone is spec'd for PvP (but that's just me).

If it's RPPvP then exactly as Taco said, be sure that it doesn't get out of hand, because it'll kill the mood. (Also be sure to wait for people to type out stuff, not everyone types at the same speed)

Wishing you the best of luck!

chalupaoffury

Put simply, if you're going to react that harshly to anything that MIGHT be directed at your character, you might wanna stay out of RP related forum stuff and stick to your private group. I don't think I have to point out the bad that can come from that kind of reaction. Either thicker skin or smaller circle, this ain't a good look for you.

I'm not going to rearrange every single one of my posts to preface them with AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT DAZEE. I already mentioned: You play nice and I'll play nice. I'm even keeping to my half when stuff like this breaks out, more than a little bit because I'm really friendly with all of the forum mods.

I've had this issue with you the entire time I've known you, so I'll repeat: When I'm calling you out you know it. Never assume I'm talking about you, especially in this case because I've never RPed with you. I think to just about anyone "I had these problems in this RP SG. Here are the problems I've had" is pretty straight forward.

I do think OP could maybe take note of all of this, because it's also a possible drawback to inter-sg combat RP. I also think we need to stop derailing threads, it's getting very old.

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