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A selfish but not ridiculous female hairstyle suggestion

digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
edited November 2016 in Suggestions Box
It occurred to me that it might be possible to create new female hairstyles by combining assets already in game. For specific example:

Cohairstyle.jpg

Incidentally, both of these should also work for other similar existing styles like "Pigtails long", "Pigtails short" etc.
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited October 2014
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  • soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I like this idea.
  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    One more that's probably harder due to it not being part of an already existing two-part hairstyle


    Cohairstyle2.jpg
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  • UnknownUnknown
    edited October 2014
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  • klittyklitty Posts: 1,545 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I love it!

    It makes me want to roll a female character and everything!!

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  • novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Makes me wanna create a female character... Crazy that its cuz of the hairstyle but yeah. Cuz male hairstyles suck.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Why does it have to be female?
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  • monaahirumonaahiru Posts: 3,073 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This is wut I support and say YES!!!!!! o3o
  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    orangeitis wrote: »
    Why does it have to be female?

    It doesn't have to be. Given that I run only female characters, it's what I had to work with and where my inspiration came from. By all means, feel free to combine parts of male hairstyles as well.



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  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    To be clear, my request wasn't necessarily to have the ability to mix hairstyles in real time (though that'd be cool I guess) but to have new hairstyles created using combinations the existing assets. So the examples I created would just be three (new) different flavors of "ponytail" like "ponytail bangs", "ponytail wisps", "ponytail bangs long"
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  • novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    digitaltwist wrote: »
    To be clear, my request wasn't necessarily to have the ability to mix hairstyles in real time (though that'd be cool I guess) but to have new hairstyles created using combinations the existing assets. So the examples I created would just be three (new) different flavors of "ponytail" like "ponytail bangs", "ponytail wisps", "ponytail bangs long"

    And there would be a whole new costume pack for it :/
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I want hair with physics. Call up the Skyrim modders and have them figure it out u3u
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  • chaoswolf820chaoswolf820 Posts: 734 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    I want hair with physics. Call up the Skyrim modders and have them figure it out u3u

    Don't even need that - even WoW has moving hair now.
  • meedacthunistmeedacthunist Posts: 2,961 Arc User1
    edited October 2014
    digitaltwist wrote: »
    To be clear, my request wasn't necessarily to have the ability to mix hairstyles in real time (though that'd be cool I guess) but to have new hairstyles created using combinations the existing assets. So the examples I created would just be three (new) different flavors of "ponytail" like "ponytail bangs", "ponytail wisps", "ponytail bangs long"

    Enabling combining hairstyles is just easier to do than modeling new hairstyles. It's already possible, all what is needed is an UI change.

    Completely new hairstyles is a new model and textures to do, even if it's made of two older models.

    Hair with physics would be nice, especially for longer hairstyles. But considering how bad can be physics on things like capes... I'm not sure if CO engine can support it good enough.
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  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    meedacthunist wrote: »
    Enabling combining hairstyles is just easier to do than modeling new hairstyles. It's already possible, all what is neede is an UI change.

    Completely new hairstyles is a new model and textures to do, even if it's made of two older models.

    Hair with physics would be nice, especially for longer hairstyles. But considering how bad can be physics on things like capes... I'm not sure if CO engine can support it good enough.

    Honestly, I'd go for whatever option would allow me to create that third hairstyle - the "punk long" + "ponytail" one, and that one's going to need a new model anyway. I had to cut away a good deal of the "punk" to reduce it to just "long bangs" so there'd have to be a different version of that hairstyle anyway even if we were going with the combining option. Also, I'd imagine there would be similar clipping issues with other combinations that would otherwise work with tweaking of one or the other of the hairstyles.

    We could change the hairstyles without bangs to all have a secondary "bangs" option that appears when they're selected (like the visor options for the flight helmet) - then cycle through the various options.

    Hair physics would be great as well, (technically, the plain "ponytail" already has them) but I was trying not to request anything that would require re-jigging the entire system.
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  • kaiserin#0958 kaiserin
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    edited October 2014
    Heyas, I had to remove parts of the discussion here as the topic was against forum rules.

    ...

    Double hairstyles are awesome and I approve. Messy Medium + Mullet Long = "The Bowie"
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    chaoswolf820 wrote: »
    Don't even need that - even WoW has moving hair now.

    Ya but I mean call in the Skyrim modders to actually get it working. Who from WoW would come here? Their offices have furniture and comfortable chairs.


    kaizerin wrote: »
    Heyas, I had to remove parts of the discussion here as the topic was against forum rules.

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    Double hairstyles are awesome and I approve. Messy Medium + Mullet Long = "The Bowie"

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  • bluhmanbluhman Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I'm all for this stuff; I know at least a couple 2D character generators that have separate options for things such as base hair, bangs, sides, back, and so forth. Not sure why most 3D games with character editing don't use that sort of flexibility; you'd think it'd be easier with the interchangeability of models.
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  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    More possibilities:

    Cohairstyle3.jpg
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  • serpinecohserpinecoh Posts: 353 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Cool idea. Personally I'd like being able to mix two hairs on the fly though rather then having them premade: Let's work that collision.
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    digitaltwist wrote: »
    More possibilities:

    Cohairstyle3.jpg

    That first one is hot.
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  • chaoswolf820chaoswolf820 Posts: 734 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Ya but I mean call in the Skyrim modders to actually get it working. Who from WoW would come here? Their offices have furniture and comfortable chairs.


    I meant that it shouldn't be very difficult to do, if even WoW with its older engine base (some of its oldest coding reveals to be just WC3 with a groundlevel camera placement) can pull it off.
  • vorshothvorshoth Posts: 596 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Let's not buy the Delorean before the doctor's banged his head on the toilet seat, folks.
    Being able to mix and match hair styles would only really be possible if Cryptic created a second hair category containing the same hair models, so you could feasibly have two applied at once. This doesn't seem impossible (as with the monster heads you can easily have the Victorian hair and another hair even though normally they're in the same category as they're in two seperate entries with the newer releases), but it's really up to The devs' concerns over how many polygons are being rendered at once I suppose.

    I think it'd be rad, but it might be more feasible for Cryptic to look at suggestions like this and release an pack of 'Hybrid Hairstyles' as a costume pack with multiple hair and hair-involving costume pieces merged, with optimised polygons so hidden stuff doesn't need to render.

    And then if we do one day get a multiple hair at once option we can then use this pack for TRIPLE COMBOS.
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  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    vorshoth wrote: »
    I think it'd be rad, but it might be more feasible for Cryptic to look at suggestions like this and release an pack of 'Hybrid Hairstyles' as a costume pack with multiple hair and hair-involving costume pieces merged, with optimised polygons so hidden stuff doesn't need to render.

    This is the gist of my original request.
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  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited November 2016
    Cohairstyle4.jpg

    Bangs transform old styles.
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    digitaltwist wrote: »
    Bangs transform old styles.



    Do one of pig tails combined with messy hair long or medium owo
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  • digitaltwistdigitaltwist Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Do one of pig tails combined with messy hair long or medium owo

    Yeah that one ends up looking like a smashed buttock. The texture pattern for pigtails is different than the one for messy hair and the messy hair model is too "poofy" so it sticks out more than the pigtails.
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  • foxypersonfoxyperson Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    /signed

    In addition, if you started re-vamping hairstyles just like you did with tier-3 costume sets (for something closer to STO's hairstyles), I for one wouldn't mind paying for a hairstyles pack.
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,195 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    YES
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    YES

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    EVERYTHING to Break the Limits of the Character Costumization!

    This would be REALLY Useful for me to archieve the hairstyles my character have and are not accessible ingame

    it's really Pretty :3
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  • ethershardethershard Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    You know, I was wondering why they didn't have "bangs" and such as headwear for a bit of diversity in hairstyles...hmmmmmm.
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  • averageuser42averageuser42 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    more long in front and back hairs? and they look nice? yes please, I like this idea.
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