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Why is Enraged Tier 2?

chimerafreekchimerafreek Posts: 411 Arc User
edited October 2014 in Suggestions Box
When It's counterparts, Concentration and and the Focus Four are only Tier 1? This means immediately after choosing your Energy Builder, you can slap on one of those forms *assuming you're using the correct powerset (Gunslinger/Concentration, Ect)

Where with Enraged, you have to choose up to three powers, THEN Enraged becomes available. Why is it Tier 2? All it's doing is forcing you to choose more powers in might before you can break from Tier 0/1.

I suggest bringing it to Tier 1 with the rest of them.
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  • bluhmanbluhman Posts: 2,411 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Short answer: Leftover from when it was a click that you activated to keep stacks up.

    Before it became a toggle like the rest, it was the be-all end-all for generic damage boosting. Wanted a nice consistent damage buff for your character and wasn't afraid to get close? Create a build with decent strength, and take Enrage, and back it up with Roomsweeper. Building and maintaining a damage buff on top of your regularly more powerful ranged attacks was no sweat.

    Aside from preserving proper leveling progression on established builds (i.e. you gain access to Haymaker, a T3, thanks to T2 enrage), this has no purpose. It really should be brought to T1.
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  • soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,654 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Agreed, it should be Tier 1.
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    edited October 2014
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  • aurasonic12aurasonic12 Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Never knew enrage was a tier two power that's new to me. MAKE IT LIKE THE OTHER ENERGY FORMS CRYPTIC!!!!
  • ogremindesogremindes Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It's not an energy form, it's a should-have-been-called-stances form.

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  • kallethenkallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Ahhhhh.... the good ol' days when "Rage of Majesty" builds reigned supreme...
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    IDF has this same issue (even worse) and that should prob also be changed. Same w/ AotB and AotI.
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  • bluhmanbluhman Posts: 2,411 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    kallethen wrote: »
    Ahhhhh.... the good ol' days when "Rage of Majesty" builds reigned supreme...

    Actually related to that:
    flowcyto wrote: »
    IDF has this same issue (even worse) and that should prob also be changed. Same w/ AotB and AotI.

    The good (fairly short) ol' days when Primal Rage w/ IDF reigned supreme.

    And yes, IDF needs a ridiculous buff to be worth anything. Compassion trumps it on too many levels.
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,467 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This will never happen. :|
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,200 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    If this ever happen can we have have Aggressor SYNERGY and give Stacks of Enraged to Aspect of the Bestial which works with Enraged by Bleed?

    would be nice,

    Those lack* of Synergies piss me off
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  • bluhmanbluhman Posts: 2,411 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    avianos wrote: »
    If this ever happen can we have have Aggressor SYNERGY and give Stacks of Enraged to Aspect of the Bestial which works with Enraged by Bleed?

    would be nice,

    Those kind of Synergies piss me off

    Actuallly, it's sort of odd, because other moves that are made to stack Enrage (Roomsweeper, Cleave, etc) actually will still attempt to do so, even when an enrage toggle isn't involved. Usually this just causes the stacks to abruptly end, but if you're using either Enrage OR Aspect, it'll stack correctly.

    In other words, there's no real reason for Aggressor to not attempt to stack enrage when you don't have the Enrage toggle.
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    bluhman wrote: »
    Actuallly, it's sort of odd, because other moves that are made to stack Enrage (Roomsweeper, Cleave, etc) actually will still attempt to do so, even when an enrage toggle isn't involved. Usually this just causes the stacks to abruptly end, but if you're using either Enrage OR Aspect, it'll stack correctly.

    In other words, there's no real reason for Aggressor to not attempt to stack enrage when you don't have the Enrage toggle.

    My guess: in the code, the always-on buff from the toggle that 'sources' each stack is what's tied to Aggressor. In other words, it works from 'Enrage' and not 'Enraged!' as a general stacking buff.

    Also, ya can no longer have >1 stack of a toggle that isn't currently active. In the past I think I've had >1 stack of Enrage fall off even while I was using IDF.
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  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    There is also the facts that the new forms are not counting towards any in-set number of powers. And concentration is also the go-to form for elemental powers, the non-munitions power requirement for concentration is just as high as in-set requirements for enrage.
    That said, I'd be fine with enrage being r1, melee builds could use some more small advantages like that.
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