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Permanent Premade Sidekicks/Henchmen
crypticbuxom
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A lot of us players would really like Sidekick and Henchmen devices to be changed to permanent devices.
How they could work:
Each individual device is useable 1 hour each day. At the end of the day they would all reset their timers. You can still only have one sidekick out at a time.
Limitations:
A. They Bind to Account on Pickup. You would have to purchase them yourself from the Z Store to get them all as well as farm all the events and content they come from. (Excluding ones in lockboxes)
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B. They Bind on Equip so you would have to farm or purchase all of them for each character. You can only have one of each kind on a character.
Benefits:
The more sidekicks you have the more time you can have some kind of sidekick out through the day. Getting them all would be encouraged to have at least one sidekick out whenever you want.
Cryptic Benefit:
Sidekicks would be another source of income again. You can have them unique to events, added to lockboxes, and have people interested in the ones in the Z store again. All Cryptic has to do is change how the timers work on them and make them not expire.
I would certainly purchase all the Sidekicks from the store if they were permanent.
How they could work:
Each individual device is useable 1 hour each day. At the end of the day they would all reset their timers. You can still only have one sidekick out at a time.
Limitations:
A. They Bind to Account on Pickup. You would have to purchase them yourself from the Z Store to get them all as well as farm all the events and content they come from. (Excluding ones in lockboxes)
OR
B. They Bind on Equip so you would have to farm or purchase all of them for each character. You can only have one of each kind on a character.
Benefits:
The more sidekicks you have the more time you can have some kind of sidekick out through the day. Getting them all would be encouraged to have at least one sidekick out whenever you want.
Cryptic Benefit:
Sidekicks would be another source of income again. You can have them unique to events, added to lockboxes, and have people interested in the ones in the Z store again. All Cryptic has to do is change how the timers work on them and make them not expire.
I would certainly purchase all the Sidekicks from the store if they were permanent.
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I'd use sidekicks more often if they were permanent. Robot sidekick makes a fine generic mook, for an example.
I can count the time I've seen someone use the current sidekicks on one hand. They are much too pricey for what they provide.
No one is going to spend that much Zen for just one-hour of usage.
Pretty much, among other things. Like in Neverwinter, I think there should be tiers as far as companions go, some that one could work towards obtaining in-game and better or flashier ones that can be bought, either through in game currency or real money more or less.
A sword coast adventures type set-up for CO companions would be pretty cool as well. It would certainly let them delve into the PnP part of the game too.
Make them permanent devices as suggested by the OP, and yes, I would consider purchasing them.
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reason i dont use devices like the sidekick ones is because they aren't exactly permanent, and that they arent customisable.
i would pay 1000 zen for a customisable sidekick. Seriously.
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Champions Online.. where we sell lockboxes by the dozen.
We can worry about tiered Sidekicks when it comes to the custom ones.
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I'd have to say I'd buy those Harjuku twins again if i could get them as permenent pets.
Though not much has been said of it since then, considering that the devs are implementing stuff they wanted to years ago now, finally, I wouldn't set this as off the table just yet.
I don't play Elf-and-Goblin MMO#45646784 so refresh my memory, are their costumes and powers customizeable, however that may apply to that game?
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
The Sidekicks we want is from STO. You can choose their "class" and upgrade it by putting player gear on it. You can also have multiples active at the same time if your team total is lacking.
They never changed appearance, but you could give them weapons and armor. While your character had many more equipment slots, your hireling could equip a helmet, armor and a weapon (and shield if applicable.)
So I guess the point is, if we had equippable permanent sidekicks that if died we could resurrect, that'd be awesome.
If you mean the Bridge Officers, it's not so much a matter of choosing their career paths (the equivalent of "class"); instead, you usually wind up getting so many BOffs from ranking up that you can pick and choose which ones staff your ship. (And a good thing you get so many choices, too. It'd be terrible if you upgraded from, say, a Tier 3 Cruiser, with its one low-ranking Tactical slot and two Engineers, to a Tier 4 Escort with its multiple Tactical positions and a single Engineer, but you didn't have any spare Tac officers to choose from...)
And I think a limit of one Sidekick at a time makes sense. A starship captain beams into a hazardous situation with an entire away team (General Order Twelve, you know), but superheroes generally only have the one sidekick, if any at all (Green Arrow and Speedy, Batman and Robin, that sort of thing).
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The point was to make a response to the original post and topic of this thread with how I thought extended henchmen duration should be approached. I did not prefer the method in the original post as it would clutter my inventory with numerous entities rather then grant a semi-permanent assistant mob, so my stated ideas were about making available the option of a single long term combat pet companion.
As to your statement above, how things should have been to begin with does not impact my opinion, as I don't see a likely method to go back in time and correct that design approach. More realistically, I don't see PWE/Cryptic retroactively making henchmen permanent without some monetary incentive on their part. As to your opinion on damage, I don't imagine / desire significant damage scaling up of combat pets (particular if permanent) because then people will be complaining about how "required" they are in a similar manner to vehicles now. It would be handy to have a combat pet on more fragile characters when solo questing or to complete a theme however, so I still think it is a worthy concept to pursue.
I agree. People have a tendency to over-complicate the suggestions. Just making the sidekicks we have perm would be awesome. And maybe it would kick start their sales enough to fuel new ones being created, with improvements.
Baby steps.. baby steps.
What can you do with BOffs in STO? Gear, Skills(to some extent), and race. I suppose that, to some extent, race/combat branch are equivalent to archetypes.
Thus for Champs, the henceman would have the same gear setup as a hero, an archetype that was set when the henchman was acquired, and probably specializations.
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Yes. Can a suggestion be kept simple for once without over complicating it with everyone's "variants"? If everyone can't agree to a single concept, Cryptic won't bother considering it.
This is another thread ruined by players not agreeing on a single fix en masse. I'll try again in a few months with a new thread and hope that everyone agrees on a single solid update to sidekicks. Being made permanent and nothing more.
Personally however I think people having a long spirited debate in the same general direction (need for longer henchmen duration in this case) is more likely to get the dev's attention then a statement followed by a few people going "Yea" or "Nay". There have been some instances of dev response previously when there is not 100% consesus (even on wether to do something at all).
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There lies another problem. If it was a yay or neigh you wouldn't have posted showing that players aren't really interested.
I want people to agree or come up with variants of a permanent Sidekick. Not a buff to their damage. Not implementing a system to tag onto them. A mere change to make them permanent and how the permanency would be limited.
My preference instead is to go with "Yes, but..." because then I can express that I favor the idea of long-term sidekicks, just not the proposed implementation.
As a side note as far as approaches go, if the 1hr durations were simply stripped from henchmen, allowing each to be used as much and as long as desired (within the limits of one at a time of course) I'd probably support *that* without argument. I simply don't want to carry a bunch of 1hr critters with me even if they are reusable with cooldown.
But if they just made them permanent I will be more than happy with that.
Then we can work on adding real sidekicks (my personal concept - as a power available only sometime after level 20, being one of the free ATs, leveling along with the hero but 5 or 10 levels below, customizable via tailor, and being available constantly once the power is activated; all this is just my personal wishlist, not a requirement in order to introduce sidekick permanency).
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I haven NEVER bought any of the Sidekicks because of the stupid 1 Hour limit (Neither Harajuku Duet for their Weapon Unlocks)
Now that I see what it's Available, I would LOVE to have along me Duratok and R.O.D (the other sidekicks are somehow really Forgetable for me)
Baby step before they make Fully Customizable Permanent Sidekicks