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A Call to the PvP community to prove their human decency.

gradiigradii Posts: 11,717 Arc User
edited September 2014 in Champions Online Discussion
I am currently being harrassed by multiple pvpers at once. After the certain incident I'm sure you all remember (where I was stalked for MONTHS) I have ZERO tolerance for this behavior.

I call on all that is still decent in the pvp community to PM me in game ASAP to find out just who these animals are, and to do something about them.

I will be waiting for whatever's left of humanity in pvp to answer my call.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Better get a comfy chair. This could be a long wait.
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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Record videos, report to GM.



    What do you want us to do about it? Pewpew them in hero games? That won't make them stop. Talk to them? That will only make them do it more because they'll think it's funny.


    Like I said last time (yeah yeah, bring on the "we shouldn't have to be silent in fear in the face of bullying" responses, blah blah) making this thread is only encouraging them. That is literally the only thing this thread is going to accomplish.


    Record videos, report to GM.



    Also the fact that you're somehow implying that the rest of us are "indecent" because of what these guys are doing? Not making a good case for yourself. This isn't the PVP community's fault.
  • lilsteffielilsteffie Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Best option would be to report them, there's nothing we forumiites can do other than sit here and provide moral support.As much as I would love to help... I can't really.
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  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    (yeah yeah, bring on the "we shouldn't have to be silent in fear in the face of bullying" responses, blah blah)

    I'm pretty sure what was being opposed in the previous threads had more to do with "ignore them and they'll go away" and not "we shouldn't have to be silent about it", because the former isn't really a solution.

    Anyway agreed on reporting to GMs with photo / video proof rather than make call-out threads to further aggravate the matter.
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  • coneuroniaconeuronia Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    Yeah I know how helpful that is after a month of doing so with absolutely no action taken.

    I have had near instantaneous response from the GMs here (and CoH and SWTOR) on virtually any event. That said, while I do HERO games I'd never encourage anyone to harrass anyone else ingame. Just send a well worded petition to support and, importantly, ignore the person as a spammer and move on.

    The water balloons and sparkly spam will cease in a month or so, and you can always afk in a mission or hideout it it gets too obnoxious. Good luck!
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  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    Yeah I know how helpful that is after a month of doing so with absolutely no action taken.
    The GMs at least in theory have the power to do something about it. The players don't.
  • ashensnowashensnow Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Just to clarify...

    People who play PvP need to prove their human decency to you by acting as your personal in game posse, regulators, muscle, etc ?

    Harassment is completely inappropriate and should be reported for official sanction, but this thread is way out of bounds IMO.

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  • ashensnowashensnow Posts: 2,048 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    what's out of bounds is the indecency of what I endure at the hands of these animals. appealing to their more sane friends is all I can do.

    after what happened the last time I was stalked, I know I can't expect a GM to do diddly squat.

    There is a huge difference between asking for assistance and making references to people needing to prove their human decency to you, implying that they lack such if they do not act on your behalf, by acting as your enforcers.

    If you need help, just ask for it without the (barely if at all) veiled insults thrown at those you want to help you.

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  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    They actually do. many of them have the power to convince said harassers it's not worth it.
    You obviously have no idea how the community functions. There are people who have been widely disliked for years who haven't changed in any meaningful way, because, well, they either don't care or actively enjoy being disliked. Most trolls are in fact completely impervious to community disapproval.
  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    what's out of bounds is the indecency of what I endure at the hands of these animals. appealing to their more sane friends is all I can do.

    after what happened the last time I was stalked, I know I can't expect a GM to do diddly squat.

    No better way to ask people of a certain group to help out than to dehumanize them. That's not asking for trouble at all.

    Also, if you're positive that GMs can't do anything to help, what makes you think that the people who have no administrative power would be able to do something? Like I've said on the last matter, learn to ignore it, stop feeding the buggers and silently report. It's not rocket science.
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  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    Why don't you marry safe science if you love it so much?

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    ... I wasn't aware I was dealing with the densest person on the face of the Earth. Please, do continue with your nonsense.

    Also, nice job sidestepping my question with that non-sequitur.
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ...Well, this is certainly going well, isn't it?
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  • scorpagorscorpagor Posts: 607 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Long ago, the CO players lived together in harmony.

    Then, everything changed when the trolls attacked.

    Only Smackwell, master of the thread locks, could stop them.

    But when the forum needed him the most, he vanished.
  • jonesing4jonesing4 Posts: 800 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You obviously have no idea how the community functions. There are people who have been widely disliked for years who haven't changed in any meaningful way, because, well, they either don't care or actively enjoy being disliked. Most trolls are in fact completely impervious to community disapproval.

    ^^^^

    I would even go a step further–most trolls are in fact actively fueled by community disapproval.
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  • paixtouraspaixtouras Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    You kinda brought this on yourself, certainly not to the extent you describe, but rage-pm'ing and then ignoring people constitutes trolling imo.

    Also, you bring this to the forums, they don't.

    I guess you're just as bad, if not worse than those so called troller animals.
  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,582 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Ya know....no on has ever stalked me(except that one weirdo with a rat ERP fetish) and I would say generally the public likes me...maybe, just maybe, it's you?

    This is like the 7th thread you had made about in game harassment, so it's either

    A) you just aren't likeable
    B) people know you take the bait.
    C) both a & b

    I was in zone last night and there were like a group of trolls, zone was silent and they were just fishing for people to say something. Stop worrying about them and it will go away...but this thread pretty much seals the deal that they won't.
  • paixtouraspaixtouras Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    scorpagor wrote: »
    Long ago, the CO players lived together in harmony.

    Then, everything changed when the trolls attacked.

    Only Smackwell, master of the thread locks, could stop them.

    But when the forum needed him the most, he vanished.

    You guys don't get it.

    The OP is victimising himself, he begun the trolling in-game, and he continues here.
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with the anniversary. it has to do with harrassment to the eventual point of cyber bullying. and it's almost always the "PvPers".

    Its got nothing to do with PvP the buttholes just happen to be PvPers. PM Navi and if he doesnt do anything mail PWE or TT about Navi not doing anything.

    I've said it before our GM fixates on the wrong stuff.
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  • paixtouraspaixtouras Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    The fact you make these claims shows you've never met or spoken to me in game. :cool:

    Indeed, I never spoke to you. You did and then ignored me. Sounds familiar?

    I am a soldier AT. I sniped your DoT build. You ignored me and rage pm'd.
  • paixtouraspaixtouras Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    nepht wrote: »
    Its got nothing to do with PvP the buttholes just happen to be PvPers. PM Navi and if he doesnt do anything mail PWE or TT about Navi not doing anything.

    I don't get it, Dazee is hated for a reason. I know the guys who trolled him, and they sure know why they did it.
    Even Dazee knows, tho he won't admit it, he acted like a huge D-Bag
  • itsbrou#5396 itsbrou Posts: 1,778 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Lol, self-policing.
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited September 2014
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    I'm seeing a pattern here...
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  • novaninja555novaninja555 Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Hmm I had the same problem.. Just PVPers (lvl 40) wanting rematch with me (lvl 36 B|) ... They follow me around everywhere and challenge me or spam me challenge messages. In my case, I just accept the duel, win them (most of the times) as walk off to an alert

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  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Y'know... if you really need help on this, Navi's on right now and I'm sure he'd be glad to help.

    Just puting that out there.
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    paixtouras wrote: »
    I don't get it, Dazee is hated for a reason. I know the guys who trolled him, and they sure know why they did it.
    Even Dazee knows, tho he won't admit it, he acted like a huge D-Bag

    Look thats why people shouldnt police themselves in game. A GM should look at chat logs going way back and decide whos to blame. We cant go about giving out out mob justice or going this guys mean to me PM meh for info or go I HATE THIS GUYS FACE like you just did.

    A good GM is ment to look at these issues figure out whats going on and if poss get said players to get along.
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    Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
    They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
    I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    ...Well, this is certainly going well, isn't it?

    Hey that's my line... stop stealing my lines Jon! \( O A O )/ Bully!

    gradii wrote: »
    Spoken like a true BSer.

    The maturity of a large portion of this forum community is truly astonishing.

    It never ceases to amaze me how every thread I start becomes a platform to attack me, even spew made up accusations and slander.

    Lock and DELETE this thread please, mods.

    Gradii. Take a moment, take a breath... and observe. Observe the effect your thread is having. Then observe the effect it's having on you. This didn't help your situation at all, and in fact seems to be making it worse. Step back, stop responding, stop checking for replies. Just forget you ever started this thread and move on.

    It's only going to get worse. Nobody wants to see you have another meltdown (except the very people you're complaining about.. they're loving this. Stop feeding them. )
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    spinnytop wrote: »
    Gradii. Take a moment, take a breath... and observe. Observe the effect your thread is having. Then observe the effect it's having on you. This didn't help your situation at all, and in fact seems to be making it worse. Step back, stop responding, stop checking for replies. Just forget you ever started this thread and move on.

    It's only going to get worse. Nobody wants to see you have another meltdown (except the very people you're complaining about.. they're loving this. Stop feeding them. )

    What the hell just happened? Foxi giving out sound advice...what in the actual %$£ is going on here!?! O_O
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    Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
    They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
    I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
  • kemmicalskemmicals Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    nepht wrote: »
    What the hell just happened? Foxi giving out sound advice...what in the actual %$£ is going on here!?! O_O

    And worse yet... I agree with Foxi.
  • kaiserin#0958 kaiserin Posts: 3,196 Cryptic Developer
    edited September 2014
    Report the players that are giving you trouble. This is a matter for the GMs and not the forums. Closing thread.
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