remove bags cat from AH, replace with aura cat

jasinblaze

All the bags category is now is people selling bags higher than the vendor price.
Any special bag that is dropped is BoP so can not be sold.
This category was for when bags dropped or were crafted, it's not needed now.
An Aura cat would be good since you plan on making more of those.

meedacthunist

Pretty much signed.

Bags can be either bought from a vendor at reasonable price, or one basic bag is granted from quest.

The category in AH is redundant and can be either nuked, or repurposed into something more useful, like auras.

nextnametaken

Yes please.

maleb666

/signed!!

That would be a nice first step to improve the Auction House.

chalupaoffury

Yeah, definitely.

championshewolf

How about instead of a band aid we get the entire AH redesigned and more useful.

chalupaoffury

Yeah, while we're at it I'd like to be able to ignore certain items. I'm looking at you, resistance nightstick.

jasinblaze

championshewolf wrote: »

How about instead of a band aid we get the entire AH redesigned and more useful.

because one idea can be done right away, and the other requires more effort.
how about you make your own post instead of resurrecting one just to troll?

championshewolf

Anyways how to refine the AH, since I know my last response will be misinterpreted as snubbing the OP by a select group of people;

Basics

Most of the basic stuff here is fairly done, the search bar, the quality level, the level range. However the level range needs to be defaulted to blank always, and the player should be the one to fill this in.

However the rest needs work, as the top should have the AH section, consignment section and bid section. Furthermore, when placing items up for sale their should be a bid range and a buyout option and all items should be place enabled to set a range on the price for said item. This will allow people to keep their maximum but give them to set a lower price over the course of the auction period as well.

The Side Bar

Over here is where the most work is going to be needed. No I don't think the Bags tab should go. While bags are currently purchasable from a vendor, that doesn't mean that future bags when they might raise the level cap will be. However there needs to be more organization.

First tab is Equipment, which is a catch all tab that when clicked will open up into a tree with Primary and Secondary sections for Offense, Defense and Utility slot gear. This will allow people to either just generally select for equipment or refine their selection with specific types.

Second tab is Modifications, which will also tree out, but will have Armor, Enhancement, Vehicle and Catalysts. Again allows people to be general about what they want or refine to a specific brand of modification.

Third Tab is Vehicles, which also should tree out with Bikes, Tanks, Other and Miscellaneous. Tune-up kits and potentially any other vehicle modification item like it would go under Miscellaneous.

Fourth Tab is Costumes, which will open up for Weapons, Outfits and Auras. Weapons are all the weapon style costume bits of course, outfits are the body mods and auras are auras of course. However, if time permits perhaps adding in the various costume locations to this tab to help refine searches for specific costume bits, such as head, neck, body, etc. However that amount of work might be too costly.

Fifth Tab is Devices. This one doesn't expand and all permanent devices that are usable would go here. Not much needing to expand on here, pretty straight forward.

Sixth Tab Miscellaneous, this will open up and be expandable for the future. Here Action Figures, Bags, and Consumables will be placed. Consumables of course being items that have a finite effect that typically only has a limited number of uses before gone forever.

Future additional tabs, based on plans that have been discussed in the past.

Crafting tab. While crafting was initially removed before to make way for the mod system, I do believe there is probably going to be some form of trickle down effect similar to what happened with STO for Champions as well. In this case I would put the crafting Tab in the number 2 spot under Equipment and everything down one so Modifications is number 3, Vehicles is 4, etc. The tab itself will contain the crafting materials and depending on how research and development will be handled, perhaps have it expand with a tab for Materials and a tab for Researchers if it ends up happening that way.

Next up, it's been mentioned in one of the UNTIL reports as something they were talking about as similar to the DOff system in STO, so a tab for Sidekicks perhaps. Probably between vehicles and costumes at that point when it's added. Basically making the AH expandable with new options without being a hassle.

Basic intent of these suggestions here is to make the Ah more streamlined, easier to manage and putting in options it desperately needs. Removing bags tab is a silly one because I have my doubts that any future bags will be purchasable even if the level cap goes up. Also it's not a good design choice to leave things as a cluttered mess and attempting to organize them is a much better solution.

championshewolf

jasinblaze wrote: »

because one idea can be done right away, and the other requires more effort.
how about you make your own post instead of resurrecting one just to troll?

Hrmm I didn't resurrect it and a post from little more than a month ago is hardly a resurrection. Furthermore, I love how offended you are for me stating a band aid fix doesn't change the main problem with the whole AH system. And instead of band aid fixing it tackle the entire thing.

chalupaoffury

*sheepishly raises hand*

I necroed it.

nepht

chalupaoffury wrote: »

*sheepishly raises hand*

I necroed it.

championshewolf wrote: »

How about instead of a band aid we get the entire AH redesigned and more useful.

jasinblaze wrote: »

because one idea can be done right away, and the other requires more effort.
how about you make your own post instead of resurrecting one just to troll?

I do not understand your post Jasin. Spar was agreeing with you and you call them a troll? She more or less just said they should do what you said PLUS more. I hate to see what you call people that DONT agree with you @_@

championshewolf wrote: »

Anyways how to refine the AH, since I know my last response will be misinterpreted as snubbing the OP by a select group of people;

Basics

Most of the basic stuff here is fairly done, the search bar, the quality level, the level range. However the level range needs to be defaulted to blank always, and the player should be the one to fill this in.

However the rest needs work, as the top should have the AH section, consignment section and bid section. Furthermore, when placing items up for sale their should be a bid range and a buyout option and all items should be place enabled to set a range on the price for said item. This will allow people to keep their maximum but give them to set a lower price over the course of the auction period as well.

The Side Bar

Over here is where the most work is going to be needed. No I don't think the Bags tab should go. While bags are currently purchasable from a vendor, that doesn't mean that future bags when they might raise the level cap will be. However there needs to be more organization.

First tab is Equipment, which is a catch all tab that when clicked will open up into a tree with Primary and Secondary sections for Offense, Defense and Utility slot gear. This will allow people to either just generally select for equipment or refine their selection with specific types.

Second tab is Modifications, which will also tree out, but will have Armor, Enhancement, Vehicle and Catalysts. Again allows people to be general about what they want or refine to a specific brand of modification.

Third Tab is Vehicles, which also should tree out with Bikes, Tanks, Other and Miscellaneous. Tune-up kits and potentially any other vehicle modification item like it would go under Miscellaneous.

Fourth Tab is Costumes, which will open up for Weapons, Outfits and Auras. Weapons are all the weapon style costume bits of course, outfits are the body mods and auras are auras of course. However, if time permits perhaps adding in the various costume locations to this tab to help refine searches for specific costume bits, such as head, neck, body, etc. However that amount of work might be too costly.

Fifth Tab is Devices. This one doesn't expand and all permanent devices that are usable would go here. Not much needing to expand on here, pretty straight forward.

Sixth Tab Miscellaneous, this will open up and be expandable for the future. Here Action Figures, Bags, and Consumables will be placed. Consumables of course being items that have a finite effect that typically only has a limited number of uses before gone forever.

Future additional tabs, based on plans that have been discussed in the past.

Crafting tab. While crafting was initially removed before to make way for the mod system, I do believe there is probably going to be some form of trickle down effect similar to what happened with STO for Champions as well. In this case I would put the crafting Tab in the number 2 spot under Equipment and everything down one so Modifications is number 3, Vehicles is 4, etc. The tab itself will contain the crafting materials and depending on how research and development will be handled, perhaps have it expand with a tab for Materials and a tab for Researchers if it ends up happening that way.

Next up, it's been mentioned in one of the UNTIL reports as something they were talking about as similar to the DOff system in STO, so a tab for Sidekicks perhaps. Probably between vehicles and costumes at that point when it's added. Basically making the AH expandable with new options without being a hassle.

Basic intent of these suggestions here is to make the Ah more streamlined, easier to manage and putting in options it desperately needs. Removing bags tab is a silly one because I have my doubts that any future bags will be purchasable even if the level cap goes up. Also it's not a good design choice to leave things as a cluttered mess and attempting to organize them is a much better solution.

All good ideas. No troll here.


Also she didnt resurrect this post Taco did and I am glad he did as Cryptic need to fix the AH post haste.

spinnytop

Remember when we could craft bags?


Pepperidge Farms remembers o3o

jerax1011

So.... uh.... how is a week gap between posts a necro???


Anyways, I agree with both suggestions. Optimally a full overhaul would be best, but I'm ok with "bandaids" if it doesn't just stop with one or two fixes and that's all.

jasinblaze

band aids are better than nothing. while shewolfs requests are valid, it derails a simple request and turns it into a bigger request. i have had a good track record with simple things getting fixed ,7/10 so far. while i have had no such luck with big things 0/40 (last one is an estimate. Her statement derails a simple request and turns it into a bigger request. this commonly happens on the forums.

let's look at it from the DEVs point of veiw

1. they are a small team
2. the code to this game is a scary mess with little order or sense
3. a small thing can be done in a short time and makes them look good

the current dev team is a third generation that inherited all the bugs and problems of the previous 2. now i know they recently had some posts to hire some new people for this game.
but they don't always have time to fix big things and still come out with new things.

when people always bring up the bigger issues when someone is asking a small thing. the small thing gets ignored right with the big thing.
Small things add up.

championshewolf wrote: »

How about instead of a band aid we get the entire AH redesigned and more useful.

here she discounts my idea for a much bigger request.
let me rewrite that.
"that would be a nice start, I would also like to see the following changes as well...."
this way doesn't come off like you know better than everyone else.
I am not a part of a select group. I am by myself not a part of any SG or under or over anyone in the game. I am just me. My opinion of you is based on your behavior and what i read of your posts and see of your chat. I have actually defended you in the past to others that have a static view of you.
I was impressed with how much you were helping new players from CoX when their game went down in the CoX channel.

but disagreeing with my idea just because you want more is trolling
i do not have a static opinion of you , I hope it can evolve in to a more pleasant one in the future.

flyingfinn

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!

championshewolf

jasinblaze wrote: »

here she discounts my idea for a much bigger request.
let me rewrite that.
"that would be a nice start, I would also like to see the following changes as well...."
this way doesn't come off like you know better than everyone else.
I am not a part of a select group. I am by myself not a part of any SG or under or over anyone in the game. I am just me. My opinion of you is based on your behavior and what i read of your posts and see of your chat. I have actually defended you in the past to others that have a static view of you.
I was impressed with how much you were helping new players from CoX when their game went down in the CoX channel.

but disagreeing with my idea just because you want more is trolling
i do not have a static opinion of you , I hope it can evolve in to a more pleasant one in the future.

Funny, I didn't disagree with your idea. I wasn't trolling you either. And you're trying too hard to make it sound like trolling. And contrary to what you just said, you've already formed a static opinion of me, despite the fact I agreed with your post, and declared me trolling your post. In fact most of the text before the green I read as a nice backhand response, and then you kind of try to sweep it under the rug by saying you've defended me in the past. You got beef, fine, but don't take a post that agrees as trolling just because you don't like that I don't 100% agree with you.

meedacthunist

Truth be told, it is more logical to ask for finally fixing the whole AH instead of only one category.

Unfortunately, given for how long AH was not updated, modifying only one category seems to be just more realistic expectation.

nepht

meedacthunist wrote: »

Truth be told, it is more logical to ask for finally fixing the whole AH instead of only one category.

Unfortunately, given for how long AH was not updated, modifying only one categor seems to be just more realistic expectation.

Indeed it is more logical for them to fix the whole thing. From a making money point of view you think if something was wrong with the AH they would fix it right away.

Sometimes Cryptic go full dumb.

formtri108

i support.