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spiderguy33
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If this ideas has been suggested before, please redirect me to the thread so I can post this in it. Before anyone says anything, saying that this won't work because it would give Spider-man clones something to work with, think about this. You already have powersets that give TONS of clones something to work with. Iron man, Deadpool. Superman, Batman clones all get what they want. Spider-man clones still exist even without the web shooters, so not putting them into the game won't change anything. With that said, onto the suggestion itself.
IMHO, a webshooter powerset would be a great utility powerset for the game. It would fit into the other gadget powersets for it's theme, but also because it wouldn't fit into energy projectiles.
As for the powers themselves, you could have a web yank/grab power that would work like Grapple gun pull, web a target and yank them towards you. A couple of webbed up powers that can entangle a target, so they could still move but can't attack, or one that immobilizes them but they can still attack, and it would cause a slow effect for a little bit after they escape. A power that completely holds a target in place, but it would be on a cool down, a short cooldown please don't go overboard with it.
A web ball and web blast attacks that does the standard ranged damage stuff, and even a knockback for bigger web ball attacks. An attack that blinds and stuns an opponent for a short time, or gives a debuff to their accuracy. I was going to suggest a web gag attack to prevent enemies from using their mouths, but I'm wondering how that would work.
Hell, you can even put in two new travel powers with the release of this powerset. A web line swinging type power set, and a webchute, or web glide powerset.
That's some of my suggestions for a webshooter powerset. I have a lot more to add, but this post is already quite long, and people hate long posts to begin with. So please, feel free to post your comments and criticisms to this idea and all that good stuff.
One more thing though. Cryptic, from all of our spider toons out there... PLEASE LET US HAVE OUR WEBS!
IMHO, a webshooter powerset would be a great utility powerset for the game. It would fit into the other gadget powersets for it's theme, but also because it wouldn't fit into energy projectiles.
As for the powers themselves, you could have a web yank/grab power that would work like Grapple gun pull, web a target and yank them towards you. A couple of webbed up powers that can entangle a target, so they could still move but can't attack, or one that immobilizes them but they can still attack, and it would cause a slow effect for a little bit after they escape. A power that completely holds a target in place, but it would be on a cool down, a short cooldown please don't go overboard with it.
A web ball and web blast attacks that does the standard ranged damage stuff, and even a knockback for bigger web ball attacks. An attack that blinds and stuns an opponent for a short time, or gives a debuff to their accuracy. I was going to suggest a web gag attack to prevent enemies from using their mouths, but I'm wondering how that would work.
Hell, you can even put in two new travel powers with the release of this powerset. A web line swinging type power set, and a webchute, or web glide powerset.
That's some of my suggestions for a webshooter powerset. I have a lot more to add, but this post is already quite long, and people hate long posts to begin with. So please, feel free to post your comments and criticisms to this idea and all that good stuff.
One more thing though. Cryptic, from all of our spider toons out there... PLEASE LET US HAVE OUR WEBS!
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My super cool CC build and how to use it.
nice idea though...if a little derp
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Yeah some things are broken... no I don't use/abuse them.. where would be the fun in that?
I would buy that... if Marvel sued the pants off of them for Teleportation, dual blades and pistols, power armor, guns, wolverine claws, and just about anything else that Marvel has used in the last 70 or so years in their comics.
Oh, lets not forget sueing them for mentioning Mutants, or giving UNTIL the Helicarrier, OH and for having a rich guy in power armor, or just about anything else that is just slightly similar to anything that Marvel has.
My point, is that Marvel isn't stupid enough to spend money on lawyers to sue Cryptic or PWE for putting in a web shooting powerset, or travel power.
(We have Wolverine claws?)
But you make a 'Web Shooting' power set...
I hope they wont sue CO of Web Grenade.
You just need to understand 'slightly similar'.
But Disney might be....
Let's all go to this merry-go-around once more....
And playing by myself since Aug 2009
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Okay, if you can answer this question with proof that it will happen, then I will ask the devs to lock, burn, and forget this thread and idea.
Will Marvel and Disney, lose money over this powerset being put into CO, or any other super hero game not under their name?
I have no idea if they lose money, since i don't work for Disney or Marvel. You need to contact someone in their end, to maybe get an answer for that.
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Then there is no reason to assume that they would sue to begin with. Unless you are using that as an excuse to say that you don't like the idea. You should just say that you don't like the idea then.
The reason the Iron Man, Deadpool, etc. clones can get away with it is because things like power armor, guns, swords, and super-strength are generic and widely-used things.
Webshooters... are for Spider-Man. And only Spider-Man.
Tell ya what. You think up a character utilizing the hypothetical powerset of yours, and do so without any way of mistaking them for Spidey, and maybe we'll consider it. Maybe. But probably not. Because it's a stupid idea.
Don't made it looking obviously like ropes made of spider web.
Though if we're sticking to the comic books, Spidey's shooters are more transportation and crowd control. They do pitiful damage.
He's used his web shooter offensively. Grant it it's unlikely he will cause any major hurt on anyone but he's still used them offensively. That being said;
Seriously guy, stop being an over sensitive type. Cryptic has been in this situation before. City of Heroes, people were making clones of famous comic book characters, and Cryptic got sued. It was settled out of court when it was found several clones were at a marvel IP, but the result is Cryptic has to actively police for clones. And like it or not, the web shooters are fundamentally tied to one character, unlike power armor or super strength. Clones can get Cryptic into a lot of trouble and no matter how you paint it, web shooters are very specific.
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I can't really see any justification for webshooters being raw dps oriented powers. As hold or paralysis attacks, or knockback/knockdown oriented - seems more like it.
The biggest thing Spiderman ever did with his webs fired at someone was to suffocate or glue visors in their helmets. Or to knock gun out of someone's hand.
Hell, call it bio-rope instead of webbing. Or maybe a mini-set in infernal or bestial supernatural that had some type of sticky secretions, similar to the web grenade we already have in tech pool.
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BTW this is why we have vine swinging instead or web swinging. Spiderman is Marvel's flagship character, they would sue.
Obviously the OP just wants to play Spiderman.
PWE and Cryptic don't own the PnP only hero games does. All PWE and Cryptic own is the IP of the characters which they lease back to hero for $1 a year
unlike other powers web slinging and the term "web slinger' are very specific to Spiderman. Power Armor isn't specific to Iron Man - there are literally hundreds of Comic Book and Anime characters who fall in that category.
Just like there a ton of super-strong "Flying Brick" types. Or Psychic characters, Or Fire-starters.. etc.. etc..
But there is just one web-slinger!
I played City of Heroes when Cryptic got sued by Marvel. It was messy.. messy... messy. Cryptic can get away with Nighthawk - because the gadget using vigilante type is another commonly used trope.
But a wall crawling web slinger - I can't think of another one.
I also would't be surprised if the term web-slinging has probably been copyrighted by Marvel, just like "batarang" has been by DC.
That being said an "insect" power set of some sort could be fun. But it could never, ever be called web slinging. It would have to be called something else.
Here's an article to reference
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/2004-11-11-marvel-sues-over-avatars_x.htm
However, if they expanded chains to it's own powerset, add a tentacle powerset, or even a whip powerset, all with changeable skins and colors, you could possibly have a make-shift web power set.
I have a Spider-man inspired toon named "The Arachnid". Instead of webbing, I took various Mystic powers and combined them with Energy Swing to create "Cosmic Webbing" which works nicely with my concept that he got his powers from a cosmic deity.
However.
Chain swing, chain lash, the net gun, tanglecoil launcher. wind energy builder (it does kinda look like you're throwing webs at people) you could probably fudge a pretty effective web-ish character.
There was some pretty heavy rumbling there for a minute about a plant mini-set. It seriously looked like it might become a reality, and it's a shame it didn't. Vine powers would rock.
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