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Wiki still not back up - how long would this take?
uprightdog
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Edit: Wiki still not back up - how long would this take? (Yes sir, I can english >.<)
Back at the beginning of February TT posted:
While I've never had to host a wiki I assume (yes, I know what assuming makes...) it's much like any other CMS. Something that should be trivial for a company with the resources/manpower PWE has.
Please try and get it up and running soon, it's such a valuable resource for old and new players alike. Even before the more recent updates made by Vizzone and others it was still very useful, having it back 'as is' would be better than waiting for Cryptic/PW to update and check content before allowing us access.
Back at the beginning of February TT posted:
( http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3940851&postcount=5 )trailturtle wrote: »We're working on it. We know the wiki is very helpful -- we use it to -- and we're working to get it back up.
While I've never had to host a wiki I assume (yes, I know what assuming makes...) it's much like any other CMS. Something that should be trivial for a company with the resources/manpower PWE has.
Please try and get it up and running soon, it's such a valuable resource for old and new players alike. Even before the more recent updates made by Vizzone and others it was still very useful, having it back 'as is' would be better than waiting for Cryptic/PW to update and check content before allowing us access.
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http://web.archive.org/web/20131120001804/http://www.champions-online-wiki.com/
And playing by myself since Aug 2009
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championsonline.vvikia.com/vviki/Champions_Online_VViki
Replacing all VV vvith actual...ermmmm...They key is broken darnit so...the letter that it should be :P
Sometimes it can help
Alexandra.
Cryptic needs to just tell us what the hell is going on since this is just ridiculous at this point. This crap about not communicating with us needs to stop. Especially went we're about to have people spending their time and money to bring back something important to the community. It would suck if the players decided "screw you guys" and brought the wiki back only to have cryptic be all "oh, hey, we finally brought the wiki back" a few months later.
[at]riviania Member since Aug 2009
I honestly think this is the best course of action. A fan maintained wiki has the potential to be more flexible and devs can simply stick their heads in to clear up errors if absolutely needed.
-Sterga
This is what I keep saying every time this topic comes up. Make a new one yourselves, guys, the old one ain't coming back and Cryptic certainly isn't reliable enough to bring it back.
May I suggest Gamepedia?
And, I mean, the url could be free for a year right now if I got some sort of word one way or another on this. And it's not like there's a shortage of volunteer help, I'm positive I wouldn't be alone in the reconstruction efforts. I know for a fact that championswiki.com is currently available.
RIP Caine
NemCon : The main obstacle players will face is the undeniable fact that if you join a NemCon "team" you will spend the next 2 hours standing about the Unity HQ while some noob looks for a team in zone.
I might start my own CO wiki.
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
You know you're not really helping anyone by saying that, if anything i read through most of your latest posts and all i can say is you're being a flat out troll. Go do something productive before the community just ignores you altogether.
Back on topic there is a wikia, although i doubt thats been even updated at all recently since On-Alert.
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Champions Online.. where we sell lockboxes by the dozen.
I bet if we challenged Cryptic to a race on setting up a new wiki that the community would beat them without any contest.
And I will always be @DZPlayer122.
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Or you could just thrown the Link in. Like that.... Since G00GLE does have Virtual Keyboard....
But luck doesn't help when it's missing most of the stuff...
And playing by myself since Aug 2009
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find an alternative resource, they don't have the resources to put it online so chances are its not going to be back
The Nemesis system needs fixing and here's ideas:
A business that makes nothing but money is a poor business. Henry Ford
You are missing my point . You see the bit I should "make my own wiki" thats a magical thing called a hint. Hints are great.
The point being most wiki's are fan made if we want a wiki we have to make one ourselves if we wait for PWE or Cryptic to do one then we are in for a very long wait .
The dogs here for a reason :P
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
Back to the topic, isn't there a way to build on what the Wikia wiki already has ? Because it does contain a ton of information, and good quality information. Have you seen how useful their 10 second videos on unlockable costume sets are ? Plus I have a feeeling no one would bother doing that all over again.. Maps, missions, powersets, NPC's.. There's too much.
(°∇° ) #megalodon2015
You say I didnt add anything yet you say dont bother theres to much to do. Did you see me personaly attack anyone in this thread? As we speak I am looking into starting a wiki myself what are you exactly doing?
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
He is btw. Him a good few Champions players PnP and MMO are spending nights gathering info and searching stuff out to start a fan run Champs wiki that covers everything. Making a damn mess of my kitchen table while they are at it U__U
My brother is actualy looking into doing something as he is a beta player and has tons of CO info locked inside his slightly insane head. Please tell me what your plans on reviving the wiki is. Him and his buddys might fail in a horrid way but least they are willing to have a go. He is right we cant wait on Cryptic we must do this on our own.
OH and he is a big biker type hardly a kid. Hes just annoying by default . No idea whats going on with that dog picture >_>
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They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Precisely what I've been saying. Unfortunately, everyone will be expecting Cryptic to keep a "promise" (how has that worked out so far?) and we'll get another iteration of this thread in a month or two.
Just watch.
Damn it. I should have guessed that one o_o
Wait did he just call us all Cryptic's obediant little lap dogs then. >_>"
A Cryptic Promise almost as pointless as Cryptic Maths.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Of course it will happen in a month or two .
We live in a world where people are like wait and see and it will just all work out fine. You wait and wait and wait then die of old age...or the game does at least.
We also live in a world where people expect things handed to them for free. People wait their whole life for the next free handout.
Getting stuff done doesnt work like that. You want something in this life make it happen yourself no two ways about it.
Cryptic might have promised us one but they dont owe us a wiki. The have done their part sort of by providing us with a half working game. We have to do the wiki not them.
Yeah and dogs do like to wait.
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
In case YOU didn't know we already had a fan made wiki back up some while ago before it went down due to various reasons. And your bit "I should make my own wiki" Sounded extremely and i mean EXTREMELY sarcastic when you put it together with your comment about nemcon, so no i didnt miss your point and that dog being there is assume I to depict your amount of stupidity.
Seriously, get your act together, stop passively aggressively hassling everyone, we're sick of it. I would point out every single offensive quote you've ever said on the forums (including malware's thread, my thread and a few others.) but i dont want to go that off topic on here.
The wikia that currently exists has been outdated for a while, however (IIRC) anonymous users can contribute to the site, right now i personally think thats the cheapest way to get CO a wiki again without having to pay for a new site like previous owner of the other one has.
Handle:@XG3NX
Champions Online.. where we sell lockboxes by the dozen.
If you dont understand only dogs wait then that is not my problem. A good few people understood my point just fine some even SHOCK HORROR agreed with it.
Oh you mean the thread where people unfairly hassled Malware , yes I did defend him and I will do it again if needs be. http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=265831&page=31 ( I'm a CoX vet myself so if you mean my CoX jibes yeah they where a bit mean ) but as you can see I ended up getting along with them just fine.
You really do need to get over me not liking your CC its causing you to go off topic. I didnt like it thought it was boring many didnt move on. No use staying mad over it. Its making you look like a child. Other longer term members of P.A where like he didnt like it big deal.
Though my sis had given me a hard day at work today so you have given me a good laugh with your rage and for that good sir I thank you.
I agree with this. But theres a problem Lohr has control and shes left we cant 100% correct everything due to no admin rights. A new one is needed.
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
I was not talking about that thread, by all means i keep away from that one. Check out the one here where you decided to hate on Mal then defend him... nice work.
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=279541&page=2
You really need to read more. Check the last bit,I wasn't mad at you but recently you've been attacking various threads, and im BEYOND over it. Usually im very nice on here but you've been grinding people's gears and im bothered by it.
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=4252741&postcount=93
Maybe, if you wanted a completely new one we could make a new wikia entirely or pay for one, not sure which one he community is willing to do though.. i wonder if theres a free site we could use to make one...i've been itching to know for a while and searched but no avail.
Handle:@XG3NX
Champions Online.. where we sell lockboxes by the dozen.
Its called PvP banter if you notice after wards I give him nothing put praise. Again your rage about me not liking your CC is causing to to go seriously off topic. But please continue it wont be me that gets edited by Biff.
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
He plans on paying for one out of his own pocket. Also Malware and Ginger get on well, Malware can tell when he is just doing PvP trash talk. The only person hassling anyone on this thread is you hassling my little brother because he didnt like your SG's CC.
Flare doesnt like my SG's CCs you dont see me stalking him in forums like some sort of pervert. He doesnt like the fact mine are to short , I can live with this.
But of course we all know what to do when we come across player stalking on the forums.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
You dont get it, i got over it, and neither does he get it either. And regarding the pvp thread there.. well then i'll leave them to their own banter.
"Ginger has a right to an opinion, i'm not arguing with him because hey you cant please everyone right? If he didnt like it, he didnt like it. If he wants to be blunt about it? Okay fine, however he should at least have left some CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, other than that i see no reason to argue, told him what we did and what effort we made towards the CC, if he doesnt want to change his post to leave something constructive then let it be, arguing wont solve it. He said it was boring and it took long to announce winners.. and you know what? i Do agree with him, But hey we can take this and improve, its not necessarily bad. "
Again you both need to read, that above i quoted from the previous thread, im not mad and i did agree with him for the most part, it was pretty blunt what he said but none the less spot on for what we both felt during the CC. I cannot possibly elaborate and make it easier for you both to understand, if i did i'd be talking baby language just to get through to Ginger, lets hope this is the last off-topic post i have to make before you both understand what im trying to get at.
He doesn't like the P.A CC fine, whatever, people will like and hate what they want, i can live with that, i only complained before because he didnt leave any sort of constucive criticism when he left his comment.
On another note, is he really considering paying out of his own pocket? Well then thats rather noble of him, i'd be happy to contribute what info i can if this ever goes into action.
Handle:@XG3NX
Champions Online.. where we sell lockboxes by the dozen.
Right well take you own advice. Ginger has said in the past he was most likely to harsh about the CC. Me and him are even freinds with some P.A people , long time P.A people. So drop the CC nonsense its done was a success one single person went..I didnt like it. Big effing deal.
I like you but your really pushing it here. Gingers point is valid we want a wiki we do it ourself. Think about it the NemCon comparison is sound waiting for Cryptic to do a wiki is like waiting for a NemCon team to form but on a larger scale but your rage at Ginger stopped you from seeing this.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
You know what this is getting dumb on both sides. Dude I talked to you in chat a few times your all right but obviously you put a lot of work into that CC and me being my blunt self has truly upset you this cannot be allowed to stand as it is. I dont want to upset anyone. I didnt like it I cant change that. I would if I could..
But for being blunt as I was about the CC, You, Caliga the other hosts and P.A have my apollogies.
Git Gud M8!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Cause I'm worth it. Playing since 2009.
Ok so you guys done now. Smackwell is going to moan at me on forumites you know for having to clean this mess up. Thanks guys o7
You where both pi**ing me off. ( least Ginger is in range of my Nerf gun you lucked out Gen )
Can we get back to the wiki issue now please.
Also Cryptic make one before Ginger does can you imganine what his Wiki would be like. Grumpy Cat plays CO.
Every catergorie the answer will be : Its crap dont bother play some CoD.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
I like blunt. I like funny blunt. I even like aggressive blunt. If I punch you in the mouth and then apologize, does that not mean that I punched you in the mouth? Apparently to some people it does. I don't care what his damage is. Leash him. He makes you look bad. He's a troll. Period.
Also, can we stop throwing around vet status? If I were new, I'd be saying the same thing. Pretty sure I've been here longer.
RIP Caine
His vet status is valid he is the one that got me to leave CoH for CO ( and annoying vets seem to post their start date in their siggys :P ) He was playing 2009 unless your a super early 2008 vet I doubt you have played longer. Also no one has punched anyone in the face. That is pure exaggeration.
Like some P.A people have posted he didnt disrupt the CC he just posted his views on the forums.
All his posts have been on topic in this thread. Have yours or mine for that matter?
He is blunt and he does say what he thinks I think its down to being a big hairy no nonsense biker ( still my little bro though ), in RL people tend not to argue with him. And with saying that there is no way in hell I could leash him :P
But to be honest I dont think he cares what any one on the internet thinks of him least alone some MMO players. I seem to be the one thats bothered with it.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
So, um... yeah. I'm sure there are enough people who can spend time for mass copy-pasta. We can't all be farming, PvPing, (E)RPing, trolling, or whatever all the time, right?
The Wiki people and Wika people didnt get along that well. Still has loads of merits this idea.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Getting punched in the mouth through the Internet must be an awkward experience.
Yes, yes it is.
questions:
1.does either or both require a website? someone said championswiki.com is available.
How much?
2. does it require a server(ok I know F...all about site hosting)?
how much?
3. can we use a kickstarter to get some money to pay for any costs, or a donation page set up?
4. does the copy/paste come with instructions? I, foe one, have only done copy/paste in Word and on the forums.
5. contact person for volunteers, to arrange sections to be copied.
any other constructive questions people can think of?
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The biggest problem is if Cryptic is going to put up a wiki and the players put up a wiki, then the community is going to be divided. Very few people are going to support both sites. That's a damn crappy thing to do to fans. The Cryptic wiki is going to have a huge advantage of more content up from the get-go if Taco can't get in touch with Lohr. There's that thing about her not wanting a player to host the wiki and I'm sure she has good reason for it.
How hosting works: You buy a domain. You buy hosting. You point the domain to your host. Many hosts offer nice things like one click installs for popular software like MediaWiki or Wordpress. Or you can add them yourself.
Hosting and domains are super cheap depending on your needs. A plan on a shared server is much cheaper than a dedicated server. Most hosting is on a shared server, meaning one server is used to host multiple domains. For personal or low traffic sites, this is fine. For a site that requires a lot of dedicated bandwidth, it's not.
PayPal would be better than Kickstarter and more appropriate.
I don't remember what software the old wiki used, but if it's not the same, then it may not be as simple as importing it to a new site. Otherwise, how you copy and paste in word may be how it would need to be done.
[at]riviania Member since Aug 2009
Cut the apron strings.
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Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
You're dethpicable.
That Dork In The Suspenders, signing out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xrw0gbnNuU
This is what happens when you wait for Cryptic to make a Wiki. Ducks eat their own face .
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!