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Captain America: Winter Soldier

blueionstormzblueionstormz Posts: 300 Arc User
edited April 2014 in Off Topic
Saw the movie today and I was impress.

As an action spy thriller, Winter Soldier is no kiddie film.

Some impressions:
1) Captain America is more likable compared with the first film and Avengers. In the comics, he was an inspiring leader that somehow did not translate well on the big screen until now.
2) Better/bigger role for former minor character(s) along with interesting new characters.
3) Several surprising plot twist and development.
4) More realistic, take away the superhero tone of the franchise and it would still be comparable to the Bourne series in terms of spy genre, suspense and action.
5) Knowing the identity of the Winter Soldier in advance does not take away from the enjoyment of the film.

The house of ideas is surprisingly good in developing various genres of film suitable to the particular hero.

Now I'm eagerly awaiting Guardians of the Galaxy and the Age of Ultron. Also looking forward to Spider-Man and DoFP even though those belongs to Sony and Fox atm.

Just a tip which long time MCU fans may already be aware of: Be sure to stay for both the mid-credit scene and post-credit scene.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    It's... not out until 4/4. Are you in freaking Hollywood?
  • jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,318 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    It's... not out until 4/4. Are you in freaking Hollywood?
    I recall hearing it was released in the UK already.
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  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    This is becoming a more common marketing tactic by American movie producers: release a "big" movie first overseas, let it build up buzz and stoke anticipation in the American audience before its domestic debut.
  • blueionstormzblueionstormz Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    It's... not out until 4/4. Are you in freaking Hollywood?
    Ah.. haven't been to the US yet, I'm from South East Asia.
    jonsills wrote: »
    I recall hearing it was released in the UK already.

    International release date of the film was March 26, 2014. So overseas get a head start to watch the movie.
    bulgarex wrote: »
    This is becoming a more common marketing tactic by American movie producers: release a "big" movie first overseas, let it build up buzz and stoke anticipation in the American audience before its domestic debut.

    My impression was it was a way of fighting piracy but I suppose the buzz generated does help a lot as well.
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  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Wait...wut. A Captain America movie is released in America LAST?

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    Right not being a git here I'm married to a Texan and my daughter is a New Yorker so I dont hate Americans I actually quite like them....but most of the world hates your face so surely CAPTAIN AMERICA should have been realesed in America first? Or does that sound like to much common sense?
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  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Ultimately Hollywood movies exist to make money. For better or worse, Nepht, money cares nothing for borders and has no national loyalty.
  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    bulgarex wrote: »
    Ultimately Hollywood movies exist to make money. For better or worse, Nepht, money cares nothing for borders and has no national loyalty.

    Unfortunately that much is true.
  • nephtnepht Posts: 6,883 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    bulgarex wrote: »
    Ultimately Hollywood movies exist to make money. For better or worse, Nepht, money cares nothing for borders and has no national loyalty.

    My hubby he raged so hard about America getting it last. Then I pointed out we live in the UK and we will get it before the USA :P
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  • kallethenkallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    I'll agree that it's pretty ironic that a Captain America movie hits the USA last.


    But we could always say they left the best country for last. :wink: *insert stereotypical American smugness here*
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  • tigerofcachticetigerofcachtice Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Great rundown. It answered exactly the questions I had, I'm definitely checking this out then.
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  • helbjornhelbjorn Posts: 678 Arc User
    edited March 2014
    Glad to hear this one is decent - I didn't care much for the first Cap movie. Along those lines, did you feel it was better than the original? How does it compare to The Avengers? I thought that one was possibly the best super hero movie ever made.
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    And here in Finland, we don't get to see Captain America: Winter Soldier. We get to see Captain America: The Return Of The First Avenger.
    Yes, really.
    I think the reason for the name change is, Russia. Some people are afraid that Putin gets angry, because they got their asses handed to them in Winter War, and invades us.
    Bring it.
    Or the renamers think that Finns don't know who the Winter Soldier even is. And because the 1st Captain America movie was called Captain America: The First Avenger.
    I bet that 3rd Captain America movie is called Captain America: The Return Of The First Avenger Part 2.
    Just because they rename movies really stupidly here.
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  • rianfrostrianfrost Posts: 578 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kallethen wrote: »


    But we could always say they left the best country for last. :wink: *insert stereotypical American smugness here*
    I'm gonna go roll off some dwarves for their cash...
    oh wait, i was doing smaugness.:biggrin:
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    And here in Finland, we don't get to see Captain America: Winter Soldier. We get to see Captain America: The Return Of The First Avenger.
    Yes, really.
    I think the reason for the name change is, Russia. Some people are afraid that Putin gets angry, because they got their asses handed to them in Winter War, and invades us.

    hehe, they thought it was about simo? that would be...targeted marketing..nyuk nyuk.
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Posts: 3,797 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    jonsills wrote: »
    I recall hearing it was released in the UK already.

    Did they re-title it Captain Britannica there? :biggrin:
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  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,132 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I saw Captain America: TWS on the 27th of March and it was amazing...

    (Thank goodness for skin tight thin white shirts :wink:)

    Action was great and I really got to like Falcon really fast. All round great work I felt. Eagerly anticipating the next movies!!
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    zedbrightlander1 wrote: »
    Did they re-title it Captain Britannica there? :biggrin:

    No, I would think not, because Captain Britain is a completely different Marvel Comics character.
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    No, I would think not, because Captain Britain is a completely different Marvel Comics character.

    And he's pretty cool, too (And very different). What were the pistols he used again? Come on, one of your Brits has to know this...

    Marvel UK always had some pretty stellar stuff, now that I think about it. I liked their Transformers stories (way better than the US ones, they actually had better continuity).
  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    cybersoldier1981 wrote: »
    And he's pretty cool, too (And very different). What were the pistols he used again? Come on, one of your Brits has to know this...

    Marvel UK always had some pretty stellar stuff, now that I think about it. I liked their Transformers stories (way better than the US ones, they actually had better continuity).

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  • blueionstormzblueionstormz Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    helbjorn wrote: »
    Glad to hear this one is decent - I didn't care much for the first Cap movie. Along those lines, did you feel it was better than the original? How does it compare to The Avengers? I thought that one was possibly the best super hero movie ever made.

    Hi there, sorry for the late reply. Went out of town for a week.

    Yes, I do feel that this was much better than the First Avenger. Reasons:

    Plot - CA:TFA's plot was pretty straight forward, not so with CA:WS. Here, there are layers of plot and it plays like a detective film where the true villian is revealed near the final act.

    Character Development - Both major and minor characters are better fleshed out, good interaction among the heroes.

    Themes - National security, pre-emptive strike and trust issues are very fitting for contemporary times.

    Compared with the Avengers. That's a tough one, likewise I also feel that the Avengers was one of the best super hero movie ever made.

    This is what I can say, the Avengers is a film that has mass audience appeal where as young children would not be able to appreciate the whole plot of Winter Soldier. The new film feels like a movie better suited for grown ups. WS has its light hearted moments but it is a more serious film than the Avengers.

    I doubt Captain America would be able to beat Avengers' box office hit, but I think it would certainly surpass Thor:TDW.
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  • blueionstormzblueionstormz Posts: 300 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    theravenforce wrote: »
    I saw Captain America: TWS on the 27th of March and it was amazing...

    (Thank goodness for skin tight thin white shirts :wink:)

    Action was great and I really got to like Falcon really fast. All round great work I felt. Eagerly anticipating the next movies!!

    Yup, felt the same way.
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  • tigerofcachticetigerofcachtice Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    I just came back from watching this. My thoughts were that Blueionstormz was spot on:
    blueionstormz wrote: »
    Some impressions:

    1) Captain America is more likable compared with the first film and Avengers. In the comics, he was an inspiring leader that somehow did not translate well on the big screen until now.
    2) Better/bigger role for former minor character(s) along with interesting new characters.
    3) Several surprising plot twist and development.
    4) More realistic, take away the superhero tone of the franchise and it would still be comparable to the Bourne series in terms of spy genre, suspense and action.
    5) Knowing the identity of the Winter Soldier in advance does not take away from the enjoyment of the film.

    I very much agree. I expected just a superhero film, but it was much more a spy/political story.

    In fact, I also felt the bits about S.H.I.E.L.D. outshone the bits about Captain America. Much of the film was about S.H.I.E.L.D., just seen through Captain America's eyes. Nick Fury, Black Widow, Maria Hill, other agents, really intrigued me.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    My favorite quip so far about the film is "Does Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. become Agents of Guys Without a Job?"

    Also... STRUCKER! ....And Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
  • ealford1985ealford1985 Posts: 3,582 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    Saw it today....i would rate it right below Avengers, best in the set of single character movies for sure!!

    Winter Soldier.....i need a cold shower. haha

    Post credits, a must see, both of them.
  • bwdaresbwdares Posts: 1,517 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    kojirohellfire wrote: »
    My favorite quip so far about the film is "Does Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. become Agents of Guys Without a Job?"

    Also... STRUCKER! ....And Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

    Well the latest AoS episode kind'a covers that...

    I just find it a little weird the TV show only gave people the opening weekend then BAM! SPOILERS!

    But at least AoS is interesting now :D

    Also Winter Soldier is probably my favorite Marvel movie so far, its a toss up with Avengers.
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  • kojirohellfirekojirohellfire Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited April 2014
    bwdares wrote: »
    Well the latest AoS episode kind'a covers that...

    Yeah, I saw it last night.
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