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FC.31.20131213.8 / .9 PTS Update

lordgarlordgar Posts: 267 Arc User
edited February 2014 in PTS - The Archive
This build is scheduled to hit PTS at 4:00pm, 1/24/2014

You can find release notes for previous unreleased PTS patches by using the link(s) below:

FC.31.20131213.3
FC.31.20131213.5


Release Notes:


Fire & Ice

  • Living Ice, Living Fire, and Frozen Spires now have correctly-sized capsules, which will be much easier to select with the mouse.

  • Corrected an error in the tooltip for Ice in Your Veins.

  • Put the real introductory cutscene in place.

  • Added VO to a number of attacks.

  • Added music to the environment.

  • Blaze and Frosticus Action Figures have been added to the Fire & Ice loot table as rare rewards. You can preview them on the Debugger.


Rampages / Private Queues

  • Rampages are now running in rotation. See the in-game calendar for details.

  • All four Rampages will be enabled on PTS for testing.

  • Some rampages were missing images in the Private Queue UI. Fixed.

  • Sky Command and Lemurian Invasion now show up in the Alert Selector UI when they are active.

  • Rampage alert windows opened via the Alert Selector now have a button to create a Private Queue.

  • The Private queue UI can now be closed via an [x] button at the top right corner. Open it again by clicking on the "private queue" button again or on the appropriate slot in the Alert Selector.

  • If you are in a Private Queue the appropriate slot in the Alert Selector is now highlighted in yellow (instead of blue for a normal active queue).

  • The "Missions" tab in the Queues window has been replaced with a "Rampages" tab that will always show the current rampage.


Items

  • Renamed Force Field Aura: Wobble to Psionic Shield Aura

  • The Firefighter Vest costume items are now called Construction Vests.

  • Psionic Shield Aura and Ice Sheath Aura have had their sound effects removed.


Costumes

  • Various category bugs have been fixed on the rampage reward costumes.


Known Issues

  • The UI asking if you want to accept an invitation to a private queue is placeholder.

  • There are some issues with moving players between teams in the Private Queue UI.

  • Match chat does not work properly in the main chat UI.


FC.31.20131213.9 (1/27)

  • We are currently pushing FC.31.20131213.9 to PTS. This build contains a fix aimed at stopping groups being kicked from rampages created using private queues. Please try out some private queue rampages and let us know your feedback.

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In particular, do not report bugs from the live game in this thread, unless they are impacted by changes in the PTS build.
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  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,148 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Items


    Renamed Force Field Aura: Wobble to Psionic Shield Aura


    The Firefighter Vest costume items are now called Construction Vests.


    Psionic Shield Aura and Ice Sheath Aura have had their sound effects removed.

    :biggrin:

    Thank you!

    I am very glad it received such a name which fits very well.

    Just a question to everyone, really, when are people going to test this? Has anyone got a set date during the weekend or something? I haven't tested Fire and Ice in a while.

    If anyone is planning to do this, rampage for testing purposes and needs another person feel free to PM me:

    @Ravenforce
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,629 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Kenina Blaze AF is missing her shoulder pad capes.

    Using the advantage Impart Freedom on Arcane Vitality seems to make Ice Cages "spread" to the user using that power.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Hated "Wobble" as the name for an aura. Psionic Shield seems much more appropriate to me.
    Good job.
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  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I tested Fire and Ice once, second iteration.
    I tried testing it this past week once, but it took too long for people to gather on the PTS. We did not form a big enough team to launch the rampage.
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  • malvoumalvou Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    -The Private Queue has issues where you try to move your icon and it won't.
    -Fire and Ice cuts the private queue and pick up queue in half dropping many people
    -The Living Fire and Ice can not be targeted sometimes which leads to wipes.
    -Living Fire half the time does not have the vocal callout

    -I like the Sky Carrier icon
    -I like the Private Queue yellow icon lightup
    -Voice work is funny
  • cybersoldier1981cybersoldier1981 Posts: 2,501 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Anime pistols still have the muzzle flash issue.
  • quasimojo1quasimojo1 Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Private Queue Bugs: Invite to private queue is not working consistantly
    Leader of private queue gets kicked from instance on load (2 for 2)
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,629 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Debuffs don't work at all.
    malvou wrote: »
    -Voice work is funny

    Yes I forgot about that. Pretty amusing compared to Gravibore.
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    are you serious? flux field is the best.

    Obviously the devs preferred the suggested name.
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  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,553 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    The name they picked seems fine to me. Anything that didn't have wobble in it would have worked.
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    the suggested name sucks TBPH.

    we need the devs to open their ears to a wider amount of players with suggestions in general though. :cool:

    Considering that they asked for feedback, and there were other options, they picked to one they liked best. Not everyone has to be unanimous when it comes do decision making.

    And considering that the devs are actually taking ideas (no matter if only a few or many suggest it) into consideration in the first place, I'd say they are opening their ears alright.
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  • mrhinkypunkmrhinkypunk Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    Kaiserin you don't have much credibility in my eyes on this purely due to the fact you think EVERYTHING is too easy regardless.

    not much to compare to. :biggrin:

    Are you mad?

    I've seen the builds that kaizarin runs and they are in no way every time a true cheese min maxed solo build.

    You seem to be forgetting, this is content MADE FOR 10 PLAYERS. This isn't made for soloing, you need a team of 9 others to do it with you. Even if you may find it hard, you may find a good healer / tank / or even a mix of different types of support who will allow your run to be a success and may allow you to hit the damage to be a part of you team.

    I don't know about you but I want to be running something with my SG and have a point for us to have a team of 10 that works well together.

    Fact is there are threat mechanics in CO for a reason, and also a choice to remove damage (crit or offense) to increase healing. I don't see what you don't understand in how teaming in CO is designed to work.


    You don't have much of an idea what you are saying as you haven't played this game for that long at all in comparison to all of us. You don't seem to understand how much harder content once seemed. Nem Con once could be considered "hard" yet now you can solo it without even batting an eye.
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  • mrhinkypunkmrhinkypunk Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    awww no steins gate this time? sad panda.

    read my answer to Kaiserins answer. I'm interested in team content as well. I just think it should be the exception not the rule.

    Yeah I read it before posting that last comment, didn't think much of it. ;D

    I suppose this is sort of what you are getting at? http://chickgeek.org/hardcore-gaming/


    I think after playing FFXIV I don't mind team wide wipes as long as there is a way around it. I well know that you would reply to this "well this isn't FFXIV" which is obviously true, however I am just stating I feel this is a very good way to make a boss a team effort for what is and certainly should be the hardest content in the game.

    Do you not agree with me that rampages should be the hardest content in the game?
  • darqauradarqaura Posts: 169 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Yeah I read it before posting that last comment, didn't think much of it. ;D

    I suppose this is sort of what you are getting at? http://chickgeek.org/hardcore-gaming/


    I think after playing FFXIV I don't mind team wide wipes as long as there is a way around it. I well know that you would reply to this "well this isn't FFXIV" which is obviously true, however I am just stating I feel this is a very good way to make a boss a team effort for what is and certainly should be the hardest content in the game.

    Do you not agree with me that rampages should be the hardest content in the game?

    For the gear it gives, yes it should be.

    And yes team wipes should be avoidable if everyone plays correctly and the mechanics of the content is working correctly.

    If there had never been a COH there would never have been a CO. :cool:
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  • crypticbuxomcrypticbuxom Posts: 4,629 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I would encourage Fire and Ice throwing on some debuffs onto the players every now and then or some unusual tactics. Perhaps an attack that throws a player into the fire part of the environment to take ongoing damage or into the snow covered parts where the player occasionally gets caught in normal ice cages. Basically things that make the player want to move faster or is forced to a crawl. Basically some functions that prevent players from kiting into the deadly outer environment.

    Maybe even when the players somehow pull the bosses close together (which I see happen every run or so) they can perform a combo attack or get buffed slightly.
  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Posts: 456 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    How about when they get pulled within 10ft of each other, they radiate a rimefire aoe for 20ft and does a periodic knock to and pulls range players in?
  • lafury001200lafury001200 Posts: 567 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    Suggestion for the devs: remove the team wipe from living fire and ice. make it instead to a large amount of regular damage to the team when it detonates. then add an enrage timer, make sure to make it long enough to allow victory with a less than perfect team but short enough to prevent soloing or roflstomps.

    People WILL thank you for this even if they aren't the usual nerfhead/make it harder clowns on the forums.

    yes, I personally know at least 10 people who each know people who will completely despise a team wipe mechanic. that should not exsist IN ANY GAME.

    its Poor, Lazy Design.

    I love how you guys did the rest of the alert don't fail us on this one thing, get it right.

    Horse pucky. My main has self and team rez for situations like these. You wanna autowin and die of boredom, do it on your own time gradi, and let the rest of us play. Don't you ever tell me how to play...yeah self filter applying...MMMPHPHPHPH!
  • blademaster5121blademaster5121 Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I agree with gradii, it's poor lazy design.
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  • quasimojo1quasimojo1 Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    If there's one thing you can count on, like death and taxes, it's that gradii will spam the hell out of a PTS thread and try to drown out all the more reasoned feedback with volume.

    I was only able to participate in the alert once so far, but we completed it with only 7 players, and it seemed pretty easy to me. Much easier than Sky Command, maybe comparable or slightly easier than Gravitar.
    I agree with gradii, it's poor lazy design.

    I'm curious when you played the event and what your experience was?
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  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Actually, with every boss encounter that I've seen that has suffered a team wipe there is a brief period of time before reset that someone can indeed use rebirth and continue fighting. Cool your jets about team wipe mechanic.
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  • malvoumalvou Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    After going through some footage I realized

    -The music stops after a while and doesn't loop constantly
  • blademaster5121blademaster5121 Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    cyrone wrote: »
    Actually, with every boss encounter that I've seen that has suffered a team wipe there is a brief period of time before reset that someone can indeed use rebirth and continue fighting. Cool your jets about team wipe mechanic.

    Lemme quote myself here.

    "...It's poor and lazy design." - Blademaster5121 circa 2014

    Team wipe mechanics are just troll candy mechanics. I could join a rampage for the sole purpose of triggering said team wipes. TL;DR instead of artificially creating difficulty with team wipe mechanics, use something dynamic. Ie use a stacking debuff that makes the opposing damage type far more effective against you. (Like hi pan yin/yang)
  • quasimojo1quasimojo1 Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Lemme quote myself here.

    "...It's poor and lazy design." - Blademaster5121 circa 2014

    Team wipe mechanics are just troll candy mechanics. I could join a rampage for the sole purpose of triggering said team wipes. TL;DR instead of artificially creating difficulty with team wipe mechanics, use something dynamic. Ie use a stacking debuff that makes the opposing damage type far more effective against you. (Like hi pan yin/yang)

    I have to admit that's a pretty good point. I hadn't really thought about the potential for intentional group griefing. It would make having a pre-made group pretty much essential.
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  • highrealityhighreality Posts: 402 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    You can't trigger the wipe, since what the team needs to do is destroy the living ice/fire, at vest you can move when in fire cage and kill yourself and people in your immediate proximity, but in the end you'll be deader than the others.

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  • cyronecyrone Posts: 1,028 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Lemme quote myself here.

    "...It's poor and lazy design." - Blademaster5121 circa 2014

    Team wipe mechanics are just troll candy mechanics. I could join a rampage for the sole purpose of triggering said team wipes. TL;DR instead of artificially creating difficulty with team wipe mechanics, use something dynamic. Ie use a stacking debuff that makes the opposing damage type far more effective against you. (Like hi pan yin/yang)

    I can't take what you say seriously. Especially since your TL;DR portion is longer than the portion before it.
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  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,148 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Trolling in Fire and Ice would just be taking isht to the max really...

    Although it is a point, I doubt anyone would waste their time to queue up for an alert and then troll it, after a few possible false starts.

    The Private Queue system nullifies the reason to fear trolling to an extent, all you need is a group of 10 friends who are co-ordinated and boom, you have 100% troll free instance.
  • roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well, I will be on the lookout for another playtest group for this latest iteration.

    I am pleased with any rampage/boss mechanics that are not as simple as high health and high defenses.

    Environmental effects, object interaction, timers, etc, are all better than simply tank & spank.
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  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,148 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Well, I will be on the lookout for another playtest group for this latest iteration.

    I am pleased with any rampage/boss mechanics that are not as simple as high health and high defenses.

    Environmental effects, object interaction, timers, etc, are all better than simply tank & spank.

    I am currently on PTS with Cyrone, I'd like to see the entire play out, I haven't seen it since the 17k strike days.
  • mrhinkypunkmrhinkypunk Posts: 1,569 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    gradii wrote: »
    this applies to your statement. btw if the entire team wipes at the same time a self rez is useless, your main won't be of ANY use if that happens.

    TEAM wipe mechanics are BAD. plain and simple.

    Team wipe is not bad if it is designed right to be avoidable in some way. In FFXIV if you don't all get behind that LOS you'll be one shot, if you don't all get into the middle you'll all be one shot. Then team wipe wise, if you don't get rid of all the rocks or untrap your team in time your team will wipe.

    What is wrong with team wipe mechanics? It makes one thing which you simply have to avoid happening.
  • stergasterga Posts: 2,353 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    I'm not a fan of party wipe mechanics because they seem lazy. There are other things that can be added that make a fight more interesting and challenging. Some of them are used in other boss fights in this game. None of the boss fights I consider challenging or exciting have party wipe as a thing.


    I don't understand your point of view. A team mechanic that is trollable sounds more like poor implementation.

    Also: Some people like doing stuff with randoms. I've made quite a few friends in various games that way.​​
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  • kaiserin#0958 kaiserin Posts: 3,210 Cryptic Developer
    edited January 2014
    sterga wrote: »
    I don't understand your point of view. A team mechanic that is trollable sounds more like poor implementation.

    Also: Some people like doing stuff with randoms. I've made quite a few friends in various games that way.


    Good team mechanics should require coordination and cooperation amongst the entire team. If someone doesn't play their part or fails to complete a task during the encounter, it should result in failure for everyone. This promotes balanced group compositions and team thinking, as opposed to playing solo with 9 other people.

    Doing something with randoms does not inherently mean your group has to act independently. It just makes it more difficult to act as a team.
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,195 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Is this a Total Party Kill trope I hear?

    Yeah I agree with Gradii, Unavoidable Party Wipes is one of the cheapest and dirtiest trick you can put in a Video game :/

    So How well is the Gamepad-Targeting works with the Living Ice, Living Fire, and Frozen Spires?
    lordgar wrote: »
    [*]Blaze and Frosticus Action Figures have been added to the Fire & Ice loot table as rare rewards. You can preview them on the Debugger.

    and why Exactly Gravitar doesn't have an Action Figurine yet...? :eek: Seriously now, she is the First Rampage Boss, she is on the Lore but yet she has no Action Figurine!
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  • jerax1011jerax1011 Posts: 966 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    avianos wrote: »
    and why Exactly Gravitar doesn't have an Action Figurine yet...? :eek: Seriously now, she is the First Rampage Boss, she is on the Lore but yet she has no Action Figurine!

    As long as she doesn't run her mouth off about how last season my outfits are :P
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