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Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Finally, someone is willing to admit we exist.
Also, advertising.
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That was pretty much what I took from the article.
@flamingbunnyman in game. Formerly @Roderick in City of Heroes.
And finally CO gets the love/resources it deserves.
Nemesis System gets an overhaul/fix.
Bigger content updates.
Weapon Skins come back ingame.
More Powers.
More Power Sets.
Auras.
Vehicles.
New worlds for our heroes to explore.
Star*Guard.
...
Like you can still use the Game Launchers.....
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My comments are on the quotes.
Sounds like they are abandoning Steam.
It's already been years since they advertised the game there.
Not those resources u3u
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
The last big multi game launcher I used was from NCSoft and god did that bog down my computer memory with all the other **** I didn't care about. I just want to load CO and not have to have ARC in the background EVER.
Could you possibly have meant -
AAAAAAAAAAAAAH! ARC IS COMING FOR US ALL!
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The answer to this, IMO, is an AA(Alternate Advancement) System very much similiar to the Feywild Boons which NW recently added(but this is not a new MMO System, I'm just pointing out that a Cryptic Game has some form of it). A System where you complete tasks and such which earn you points to buy additional nongamebreaking boosts to your toons which leaves them at LvL 40 but lets them grow somewhat stronger. In NW, for example, there are 5 levels. The 1st 3 are(CO Guestimation Translation Incoming) Pick A(DPS Option like +Critical Strike or +Offense) or B(Survival options like +Dodge or +Def). Pick 4 is currently crap in NW since it's a 2% chance to proc 400 damage on a hit or 400 heal on being hit with a ICD of like 1m but that could be repaired. Tier 5 is one of 5 options like Health on Kill or Healing items provide +10%. The key here is to allow some additions to character power levels while also leaving open the option to add additional tiers in the future. This system, IMO, eclipses anything a LvL Cap Increase could provide with far less damage. Oh and before you ask, when being adapted to CO a different system could be employed which would just be earning points which could be used to "buy" something like additional talents, spec points, adv point, or powers but the "costs" would be reflected in how useful the purchase is so a power would cost alot more than adv points and the points would need to be somewhat capped IMO. The point is there are better options and I do not feel that, in 2013, LvL Cap Increases are even remotely a solid idea. They're just the kneejerk reply players have been conditioned to expect.
As for Arc:
I do not care. I am not interested. Here are 2 simple reasons why:
1. I have a web browser and I know how to use it. They just need to fix the bad code errors with Chrome but I have other browsers if I absolutely must see the pictures in some article.
2. Run the Launcher, Hit Options, Check the "Show all games" button and now you have one Cryptic Launcher that shows all the Cryptic Games. Taa....Daa. I currently play CO, NW, and STO all from my CO Launcher. It's that simple.
So, if it all possible please make this an "option" for no other reason than I have no desire to have this particular program because, for me, it offers me nothing to validate the space it would take up no matter how "lean" it is. if I ever decide to try out Blacklight Retribution(the only PW Game I've seen which even remotely captures any of my potential interest) then I can download it myself. :biggrin:
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That being said I will likely avoid this program in the future.
At the moment, that is true. However, from what it says in that article, it looks like the intention is to eliminate the game-specific launchers and just use Arc instead. We'll see how that works, I guess.
@flamingbunnyman in game. Formerly @Roderick in City of Heroes.
I do not want to touch ARC.
I do not want to use ARC.
I will not USE ARC.
Get it through your heads, PWE. I don't want yet another Steam like program thingy whatever. I already HAVE Steam.
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That said:
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=13146001&postcount=78
(How will this affect Steam users?)
Good. So I can give ARC the middle finger by running CO/STO through Steam.
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Great. I can use Steam.
Don't get me wrong, PWE.
I've checked Arc and there is nothing wrong with its current version.
But I aready have Steam and I'm used to Steam, so Arc would be redundant for me.
For people who don't use Steam - current Arc is like 9 MB and it is a Steam knock-off. It doesn't slow your machine.
Not even close to NCSoft launcher.
Champions is listed under Atari on STeam.
And since I only play one PWE game, I see no reason to get ARC. I uninstalled after accidently getting it.
I have only got 1 game. Champions, I have no interest in any of the other games.
It runs perfectly well from my desktop.
i did breifly have ARC and got rid of it within 1 day. I see no reason to use another launcher to launch something which can launch itself.
I have no need for the messages or social functions or any of the other stuff that ARC is touted to have.
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I was one of many who mentioned this point. I'll also add that Arc installs in the hidden App Data folder. So any screenshots, costume and bind files are in an extra layer of directories, you have to copy to and from.
Good thing I backed up CO, so I recovered everything and restored them to their proper place when I uninstalled Arc.
Wut the Decepticon said. Its just a normal launcher thats trying to look like Steam its nothing world destroying.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Yo dog, we heard you like clients. So we gave you a client you can launch from your Steam client so you can launch the Champions Online launcher to launch the Champions Online executable.
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Arc is like this stuff here...
People do not care for or want it but somehow its still a thing U_U"
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
WOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
I haven't seen a Tab in a LONG time. When I was a kid we had a soda vending machine in the local supermarket. Every other soda was standard price at the time. Tab was free. At the time I didn't think anything of it. Later it hit me, "wow, this stuff is such a hard sell they're just giving it away."
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The following item, so far, in reguards to STO. Whether CO is included in this at all is unknown at this time.
Oh and you can find the entire 14 pages(and counting) STO Thread Here for those who might want to look through it.
BTW, Kenpo...Tab was free? I've had Tab before but when I got it from a machine I had to pay for it.
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Yup, at that market. It was a local supermarket called "Big B" and Tab was always set to free until they ran out because almost no one was buying it. They didn't want to just trash the stuff but they couldn't just blatantly give it away either without ticking off the distributor. So the manager and the guy who runs the vending machines set the Tab option to free and let the news of the machine's "malfunction" spread via word of mouth.
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Oh you and your fancy references~ :biggrin:
Seems reasonable.
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This will make a lot more sense in the possible future when Publisher Unified Launcher Type B matures to the point where it doesn't merely launch Studio Unified Launcher Type A.
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What on earth makes you think I am interested in the disappointment that is Champions-Online, being included in an inclusive platform initiative to sell me yet MORE Perfect World games?.
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No, it would appear from the evidence that at long last, CO's finally getting some love from the PWE beancounters.
'Course, I'm still not interested in their other games, except for STO...
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I'm finding Neverwinter hella fun. But unless you REEEAAAAALLLY love grind *ahem*PWI*hem* or PUGging, you can avoid their other titles.
Anyway, I've been using Arc and the only problem I've been finding is that I need to constantly agree to all three Cryptic games TOS when I load it up. Also all of Cryptics games default to windowed mode instead of fullscreen.
I mean, it could be something else, but it's a heck of a cowinkydink.
Wait? Whaaaa..?
Yeah, that fact alone makes me lol. A launcher that launches the launcher. LMAO!
No, and I feel for and have sympathy for Flying Lab's position - but the movement you speak of Jonsills does not indicate nor mean that they will be tasked with anything other than the current strategy of lockboxes and 10 min alert content.
Yes there is evidence that bugs are being squashed, but that is far from a coherant development plan coming from PWE/Cryptic-Studios that will evolve the game and do justice to the IP.
That is of course waaaay beyond Flying Lab's (Cryptic Norths's) remit - as that has to come down from Perfect World Entertainment.
I will be very interested, pulled back to the game and motivated to spend $15 per month when new power-sets are developed, with original animations. I will be interested when Ravenswood Academy, Arcadia, Sunday Pond, Atlantis, Well of the Worlds and Shamballah get an in-game enviroment: full-content full-sized (Vibora-Bay sized at least) zones.
In-short I will be interested when Champions-Online (after over four and a half years) actually starts feeling like CHAMPIONS-online.
The cynic in me would say Cryptic North has most likely been tasked with just keeping the status-quo of ticking over with mildly revised and/or expanded powersets, 10 minute alert content and lockbox content.
I'm looking for the BIG INVEST from PWE, when they realise they still have an opportunity after inheriting a fair portion of the CoH community, when they realise that that combined with the disappointment found in Marvel Heroes and DCUO, that a big investment in Champions-Online mean they could be the market-leading example AAA+ Superhero MMO. Sadly I'm resigned to feel that this is not going to be forthcoming. It just feels to me that Cryptic Studios has lost all enthusiasm for the Superhero genre.
Where is our State of the Game? - where is the explanation about the lack of the State of the Game for that matter?
I feel like the expectation has been worn down over time with the development of this game and the abandonment of both the adventure pack and comic series initiatives.
Paragon Studios used to bring out fully fledged NEW powersets to their store quite frequently on the FTP model. Where are our plant, sonic, staff, water, gravity, shield, radiation/cosmic and animal mastery powersets?.
I suppose 5 years on the excuse is they still 'dont have the tech'... well buy the tech and get on with it.
PWE/Cryptic; you either are serious about investing in the game or you aren't. Time will tell, but the writing on the wall doesn't look good if past experience is anything to go by in my opinion.
This isn't about making Champions-online into COH. Despite the avatar I would not want that to happen. In actual fact Champions-lore has thirty years of history and in many ways is superior to COH's lore and gameworld. Where the hell is Mechanon?, where the hell are these missing locales from Champions PnP? - The story could be amazing here if PWE invested in this game.
I feel over time expections have also shrunk with regard to the development of the game and that mainly due to the industry-wide shift to FTP and the way MMOs are developed now, but it doesn't make it any less disappointing in my opinion.
To this date PWE/Cryptic-Studios still has not been forthcoming with even acknowledging our concerns over development, - past that very weak and understated statement from Cryptic-North's Radioscience that said "I know some of you have been feeling a bit neglected lately, and we really don't want that, so I'll be on the forums to answer a few questions here and there".
Still waiting for the State of the Game. Still waiting for the explanation of what is going on with communication and SoTGs. Still waiting for signs that PWE/Cryptic studios has given Cryptic-North resources and staff to fulfill the potential in this game.
Still willing to spend $15+ per month when i see results and that the game is being invested in.
Still waiting...
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At least Fresca was new and different.
Mmm... Grapefruity.
I hear that it is part of the Fanta line, now, if anyone is looking for a carbonated Grapefruit flavor.
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Where is our State of the Game? - where is the explanation about the lack of the State of the Game for that matter?[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid that ship has sailed. Cryptic has no chance to sweep up the players of CoH. They missed the opportunity a long time ago.
I have come to the conclusion just like many other people this game is on life support. Cryptic will come in and change the bedpan...sometimes. However, most times it has to smell before they take notice.
The sad part is I really need my superhero fix and this is the only place I can find it. So I'm resigned to pay for a month here and there (to access my freeforms) get my kicks and cancel. Rinse and repeat. The good thing is there are other options on the horizon. And that group of volunteers at least care and are trying.
Playing this game is like being in a bad relationship. I can see all the potential but my partner doesn't try and could care less.
And my 1 cent about Arc.....Cryptic put your time and resources into improving Champions Online. Then I'll think about letting you force feed me your other crap.
Firtly most people I play Champs with also played CoH ..so yeah. Secondly this ARC thing has nothing to do with Cryptic.
And I thought I was the master of thread derails
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Champions has a development team that has been creating new content, new powers, and has been fixing bugs and adding new features.
A game that is on life support doesn't have any of that.
Thats it really a place to advertise their other games. UPSIDE and this is a very big upside as I have said before Pando Media Booster looks like its getting booted
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
This! I don't need two game download managers, and I ain't installing yours.
That Dork In The Suspenders, signing out.
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A game being on "life-support" is a relative term. SWG lasted for a few years after its combat upgrade, but the damage was done. The player base continued to fade until it was so low it was shutdown for good.
New content is in the eyes of the beholder. Alerts were "new" but effectively modified pre-existing instances for the most part. The last addition I felt was truly new content was whiteout, and I remember when comic series were promised to us to be released on a regular basis.
Sure, we've had Gravitar, Hi Pan, and Cybermind. With Grav, anytime people used knowledge of powers to simplify the encounter, it was soon nerfed to the ground. Hi Pan to this day is probably the most balanced, but still suffers from bugs that break it to the point of forcing a complete restart. Cybermind was given an insane amount of health and drop rates so low that a single costume unlock is valued on average over 2k globals. Those of us who repeated it regularly did so mainly to avoid having to repeat the process in the future.
Sure, there have been some new powers. But what's really needed attention are the old ones. There are so many power gaps that particular powers are greatly favored over the majority.
Most new "content" comes in the form of a lockbox. When was the last time we saw a new costume set in the zstore? New vehicles don't really account for much when the alert built specifically for them can't make a simple adjustment of improving the reward.
Bug fixes are great, except when a bug fix takes over a year to hit live, it's a reminder of how neglected things have been.
I think adding the questionite exchange was a much needed and necessary feature. But as far as "new features" go, nothing else comes to mind.
I know all the negativity gets old, but I can only imagine how difficult it must be to be positive about it all.
*Points to corner*
When I told you to sit over there I didn't expect you start talking to the walls.
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So are we referring to everyone with an opposing opinion as a wall?
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