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keikomyst
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During my unemployed times, I used to do things on Mechanical Turk, which lets you make pitiful amounts of money for doing really stupid/easy things, like tagging business cards, picking out what genre the picture is, writing small articles for websites, and so on and so forth.
And then I realized... if Cryptic just tossed all of the items onto a database and quickly coded up a front end tagging/model viewing program that players could access, we could do all the work! The way I see it is as follows:
Level 1: The Taggers
Give the taggers a naming convention to use (like tree_1.3dm or whatever extension you use) and show them objects that need to be tagged. Once an object is tagged, the object moves to level 2. Every time an object gets approved at Level 2, the Tagger receives 1 Zen. If too many wrong tags come back from Checkers, you are warned, and if you continue doing so you will be locked out of the system. Tag 100 objects as a Tagger and you can become a Checker.
Level 2: The Checkers
Checkers look through newly tagged objects to see if the filename is accurate. Say a rifle is tagged as "handgun_42.3dm." The Checker who finds this error will be able to correct the tag themselves and send it back through the Checking line. For every 10 objects checked and confirmed, the Checker will receive 5 Zen, and corrected items approved by another Checker will get 1 Zen. Marking EVERYTHING as wrong when it obviously isn't, on the other hand, will get you demoted to level 1. Checkers can also correct typos in a Tagger's tag with a 'Typo' mark that doesn't count against a Tagger's record, but does tell the Tagger to be a bit more careful with their typing.
Level 3: The Developers
With your new database of items you can get to work on bringing the Foundry to CO! When you've got players doing your work for you and being rewarded for doing it, it should be a lot easier to get the Foundry into CO. If you guys notice anything weird with your object index (the slim chance that an object got the wrong name and managed to slip through level 2) you could probably just rename it and fix it yourself.
So, what's to stop a troll from going into the system and mucking things up? Either limit this tagging service to players who have been around for at least three months (or even longer?) to decrease trolls or just take a leap of faith and hope the genuine hard workers weed out any potential damage trolls could do.
To prevent over-farming, limit access to the tagging service to one hour (or two hours?) a day as well. That way, if you tag an object a minute, you get through 60 objects and therefore get 60 Zen provided they're 100% right, which ain't a bad haul considering the crap Mechanical Turk 'employers' can put you through sometimes, though that does mean you're working for 60 cents an hour... :S That is, unless you can work faster than an object a minute.
Throw in unlockable titles and costume pieces for rewards for participating in the tagging program and there will be plenty of incentive for us to do your work for you. I know I'd put at least a few hours into it. We already do your bugtesting and playtesting on the PTS, why not go the extra step and let the players work on something most of them really want?
A superhero can dream.
double edit: if not Zen, then Questionite
And then I realized... if Cryptic just tossed all of the items onto a database and quickly coded up a front end tagging/model viewing program that players could access, we could do all the work! The way I see it is as follows:
Level 1: The Taggers
Give the taggers a naming convention to use (like tree_1.3dm or whatever extension you use) and show them objects that need to be tagged. Once an object is tagged, the object moves to level 2. Every time an object gets approved at Level 2, the Tagger receives 1 Zen. If too many wrong tags come back from Checkers, you are warned, and if you continue doing so you will be locked out of the system. Tag 100 objects as a Tagger and you can become a Checker.
Level 2: The Checkers
Checkers look through newly tagged objects to see if the filename is accurate. Say a rifle is tagged as "handgun_42.3dm." The Checker who finds this error will be able to correct the tag themselves and send it back through the Checking line. For every 10 objects checked and confirmed, the Checker will receive 5 Zen, and corrected items approved by another Checker will get 1 Zen. Marking EVERYTHING as wrong when it obviously isn't, on the other hand, will get you demoted to level 1. Checkers can also correct typos in a Tagger's tag with a 'Typo' mark that doesn't count against a Tagger's record, but does tell the Tagger to be a bit more careful with their typing.
Level 3: The Developers
With your new database of items you can get to work on bringing the Foundry to CO! When you've got players doing your work for you and being rewarded for doing it, it should be a lot easier to get the Foundry into CO. If you guys notice anything weird with your object index (the slim chance that an object got the wrong name and managed to slip through level 2) you could probably just rename it and fix it yourself.
So, what's to stop a troll from going into the system and mucking things up? Either limit this tagging service to players who have been around for at least three months (or even longer?) to decrease trolls or just take a leap of faith and hope the genuine hard workers weed out any potential damage trolls could do.
To prevent over-farming, limit access to the tagging service to one hour (or two hours?) a day as well. That way, if you tag an object a minute, you get through 60 objects and therefore get 60 Zen provided they're 100% right, which ain't a bad haul considering the crap Mechanical Turk 'employers' can put you through sometimes, though that does mean you're working for 60 cents an hour... :S That is, unless you can work faster than an object a minute.
Throw in unlockable titles and costume pieces for rewards for participating in the tagging program and there will be plenty of incentive for us to do your work for you. I know I'd put at least a few hours into it. We already do your bugtesting and playtesting on the PTS, why not go the extra step and let the players work on something most of them really want?
A superhero can dream.
double edit: if not Zen, then Questionite
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[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I knew you were going to say that, so I guess I do.
'Caine, miss you bud. Fly high.
I'd go for longer. Maybe even limit it to Gold/LTS folk or those who've been playing for 6 months or more.
Costume pieces and titles? I'm in!
While she has been rescued
what diabolical mastermind
was behind the devious brain-napping of
the Volterrific Dr Cerebellum?
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Dominus Drake Primus Database ,Also @Pyromasher ingame
You may have my Volterrific Fury!
Mua-HaHaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
While she has been rescued
what diabolical mastermind
was behind the devious brain-napping of
the Volterrific Dr Cerebellum?
@ScarredSilencer
*clears throat one more time* (back out of character) I'd do this.
from my cold de..
wait no.. AHEM
You have my support
*paranoid hugging of guns*
Here we are now going to the West Side
Weapons in hand as we go for a ride
Some may come and some may stay
Watching out for a sunny day
Where there's love and darkness and my sidearm
In game as @forgemccain