Ice/Wind FF Build Advice

slowecsl4pwe

Hi,

I've had this Glacier AT that I converted to FF when I went gold months ago. It has kind of languished as I have been trying to find a good ice build.

I finally decided to mix the Wind and Ice powersets and with the abundant maintains, decided to power it with Overdrive.

I'm looking for advice on the build. The only thing I believe it is lacking is an Active Defense. I could maybe swap out Resurgence for Masterful Dodge and just rely on the one self heal.

This does not have to be a leveling build as it is already sitting at level 40 waiting for its retcon.

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Permafrost-Wind-Ice

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Glacier
Level 6: Daredevil
Level 9: Investigator
Level 12: Boundless Reserves
Level 15: Wordly
Level 18: Quick Recovery
Level 21: Negotiator

Powers:
Level 1: Ice Shards
Level 1: Wall of Ice (Rank 2)
Level 6: Ice Shield
Level 8: Hurricane (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Overdrive
Level 17: Snow Storm (Rank 2, Eye of the Storm)
Level 20: Concentration
Level 23: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 26: Avalanche (Rank 2, Serrated Shards)
Level 29: Whirlwind (Rank 2, Vortex)
Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Ice Sheath
Level 38: Typhoon (Rank 2, Rank 3)

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Tornado Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Teleportation

Specializations:
Ego: Mental Endurance (2/3)
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (1/3)
Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

Thanks for any feedback to help make her better, including my SS choices.

titotito333999

In my opinion you have too many attacks... if you need them for theme then forget all I'm about to say hehe. Here's my take on the build. I picked just 2 attack powers, Avalanche and Typhoon, then buffed them with Fire Snake. MSA will work better because Typhoon is not a maintain.


PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Ice/Wind

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats: LV40 Test toon had 133DEX 502INT 110REC
Level 6: Dexterity (Primary) Got this for more DPS from crits and Mastery
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary) Got this for cooldown/energy cost reduction, concentration/MSA sacaling
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary) Got this to attack from rest better and CoAP scaling

Talents:
Level 1: The Soldier
Level 6: Agile
Level 9: Brilliant
Level 12: Tireless
Level 15: Coordinated
Level 18: Impresario
Level 21: Negotiator

Powers:
Level 1: Strafe Had to start in Archery set to not waste a power
Level 1: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Evasive Maneuvers (Sleight of Mind) +Dodge chance and agro wipe, procs MSA
Level 11: Molecular Self-Assembly Better energy unlock than Overdrive if don't have just maintain attacks
Level 14: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Resurgent Reiki) Great with dodge, procs MSA
Level 17: Masterful Dodge AD, with lots of INT and cooldow reduction gear/mods you can always have an AD on, procs MSA
Level 20: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3) Awesome ice attack
Level 23: Fire Snake (Rank 2, Rank 3) Debuffs elemental(ice) damage resistance on mobs, procs MSA
Level 26: Unbreakable (Rank 2, Rank 3) AD, with lots of INT and cooldow reduction gear/mods you can always have an AD on, procs MSA
Level 29: Circle of Arcane Power (Rank 2, Rank 3) To better spam Typhoon
Level 32: Ice Sheath (Rank 2) AO, procs MSA
Level 35: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3) Self heal, procs MSA
Level 38: Typhoon (Rank 2, Rank 3) Great 100' range attack

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Teleportation
Level 35: Tornado Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)

Specializations:
Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
Dexterity: Brush It Off (2/2)
Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Elusive (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

Always keep Fire Snake up, with all that INT/cooldown you can have 2 of them up for a bit. Always have one Active Defense up, and just keep attacking nonstop.

slowecsl4pwe

Great advice, I'll rework it a bit. Thanks

magentagem

um, Tito, you state "Dexterity (Primary) Got this for more DPS from crits and Mastery".

Ego tree can push crit Chance up 47% (bad gear) and around 51%ish (with heroic\legion gear) via sixth sense. By raising your secondary super stats high, you can achieve more crit chance than Dex.

Just thought I'd let ya know ^.^

titotito333999

magentagem wrote: »

um, Tito, you state "Dexterity (Primary) Got this for more DPS from crits and Mastery".

Ego tree can push crit Chance up 47% (bad gear) and around 51%ish (with heroic\legion gear) via sixth sense. By raising your secondary super stats high, you can achieve more crit chance than Dex.

Just thought I'd let ya know ^.^

In this build, by switching from DEX to EGO I only gain 3.1% crit chance while I loose 32.9% crit severity. In my opinion DEX is better.

Here's with DEX


Here's with EGO

magentagem

it's hard to see numbers with those images.
When I build my toons, with vindicator/guardian I definitely do NOT have such very low crit chance or low severity.

I have my Ego sitting somewhere around 220ish while my Dex + Rec sit somewhere around 260ish, making my total crit chance be 55-56% with 90% severity. With no Dex, and replacing it with something similar in number, it'll be 49-50%ish percent with the same severity.

From 90% severity to 115% severity, the difference in crit dmg isn't all THAT noticeable. it's about 100-200 dmg from something like typhoon. Much less on maintains, like avalanche...

monsterdaddy

Dex PSS with Dex Mastery is really the top choice for DPS thanks to the high Severity. The increased damage is quite noticeable on many powers/high end builds. Just test it out in the PH and see how fast you kill a level 40 dummy with some high crit chance Active Offense. And the added healing when you crit can be very fortunate at times (i.e. Resurgence)

That said, Ego as PSS is still very good for balancing out other things like Defense (damage resistance gets pretty high with Guardian/Vindicator) and cost reduction if you do not take Int as a SSS. Plus some extra crit chance and the Mastery is decent.

P.S. The reason Tito sees such a huge difference in Severity is because Ego spec is tied to Ego whereas Dex spec is tied to SSS and Tito kept his PSS low in both cases.

slowecsl4pwe

Thanks for all the great advice. I believe this will be the build I will go with. I'm going to roll it and give it a spin to see how it preforms. By the way, how did you take a screen shot?

PowerHouse (Link to this build)

Name: Permafrost-Wind-Ice

Archetype: Freeform

Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

Talents:
Level 1: The Marksman
Level 6: Lasting Impression
Level 9: Daredevil
Level 12: Investigator
Level 15: Accurate
Level 18: Shrug It Off
Level 21: Quick Recovery

Powers:
Level 1: Ice Shards
Level 1: Wall of Ice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Ice Shield (Rank 2)
Level 8: Hurricane (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 17: Snow Storm (Rank 2, Eye of the Storm)
Level 20: Concentration
Level 23: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 26: Avalanche (Rank 2, Serrated Shards)
Level 29: Masterful Dodge
Level 32: Fire Snake (Rank 2, Trail Blazer)
Level 35: Lock N Load
Level 38: Typhoon (Rank 2, Rank 3, Cold Front)

Travel Powers:
Level 6: Tornado Flight (Rank 2)
Level 35: Teleportation

Specializations:
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (3/3)
Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)


I decided, with the good advice, to switch up to MSA as a lot of my powers had cool downs now. Here is her primary stats using your standard rare gear with level 5 mods as Primaries and Purple Secondaries. I will work next on Silver Recognition Gear.

Ego = 209
Dexterity = 189
Intelligence = 183

Offense = 293.2
Defense = 201
Dodge = 57.2%
Avoidance = 56.3%
Critical Chance = 42.4%
Critical Severity = 97.8%

Thanks again for all the feedback, it truly helps.