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Iron Chain

sturmwolf65sturmwolf65 Posts: 66 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Power Discussion
One of my starting characters was a Might who got his powers from some alien artifact powerchains.
So far...so fine....I picked the Iron Chain routine of powers and played with it.
I was new to the game and some time later I compared him to my other toons and noticed that he sucked performancewise...so I deleted him.
Now I try to rebuild him, but I have some problems to make it work.
Chains are all "ranged" attacks, without strengthscaling.

WHY for crying out loud?!?

Why aren't they treated like heavy weapons?
And is there a way to make that build work?
Iron Cyclone has a lot of knocking potential, so I wanted to pick Enrage, but Enrage scales with STR, the chains don't.
etc,etc...
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  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,132 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    sturmwolf65 wrote: »
    One of my starting characters was a Might who got his powers from some alien artifact powerchains.
    So far...so fine....I picked the Iron Chain routine of powers and played with it.
    I was new to the game and some time later I compared him to my other toons and noticed that he sucked performancewise...so I deleted him.
    Now I try to rebuild him, but I have some problems to make it work.
    Chains are all "ranged" attacks, without strengthscaling.

    WHY for crying out loud?!?

    Why aren't they treated like heavy weapons?
    And is there a way to make that build work?
    Iron Cyclone has a lot of knocking potential, so I wanted to pick Enrage, but Enrage scales with STR, the chains don't.
    etc,etc...

    Strength spec can allow your strength to affect all your ranged powers instead of ego..just get Super Strength with Exceptional *Insert Secondary stat* x2

    I have an FF build which uses it and it works a treat.

    I use Enrage and get stacks and damage increase fine.
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  • sturmwolf65sturmwolf65 Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    theravenforce wrote: »
    Strength spec can allow your strength to affect all your ranged powers instead of ego..just get Super Strength with Exceptional *Insert Secondary stat* x2

    Can't find that in the Strength Spec Tree...there is only Balance, which affects the knock strength only, but not the whole damagescaling.
  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,132 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    sturmwolf65 wrote: »
    Can't find that in the Strength Spec Tree...there is only Balance, which affects the knock strength only, but not the whole damagescaling.

    Surely the knock str of your attacks is the damage...seems to work fine when I am using Iron Larait, chain and cyclone attacks.
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  • klittyklitty Posts: 1,545 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    theravenforce wrote: »
    Surely the knock str of your attacks is the damage...seems to work fine when I am using Iron Larait, chain and cyclone attacks.

    Now I didn't know that!! I need to run some test! For science!!! :eek:

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  • flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Alice 'n' Chains needs more Chain Attacks!!!!!!!
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  • sturmwolf65sturmwolf65 Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    theravenforce wrote: »
    Surely the knock str of your attacks is the damage...seems to work fine when I am using Iron Larait, chain and cyclone attacks.

    Can you back that up?
    I always thought knock is knock and damage is damage.
    One is the number of damage I dish out, the other is the 2ndary effect I might trigger.
  • theravenforcetheravenforce Posts: 7,132 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    sturmwolf65 wrote: »
    Can you back that up?
    I always thought knock is knock and damage is damage.
    One is the number of damage I dish out, the other is the 2ndary effect I might trigger.

    Havent been on my FF for a while but before I got the spec my damage was frankly pathetic...and without any Ego at all I think 800-1.3k dmg on Iron Lariat is ok for a lvl 23 since I got the spec.

    I just simply got the impression the knock str and damage were affected by the spec...There is a 120% chance that total rubbish is flowing out of my mouth and I am wrong but I just wanted to help..I am sorry if I messed it up >_<:frown:

    I dont use str that much and have only once used might chains or the super strength spec tree...
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  • sturmwolf65sturmwolf65 Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    theravenforce wrote: »
    There is a 120% chance that total rubbish is flowing out of my mouth and I am wrong but I just wanted to help..I am sorry if I messed it up >_<:frown:

    I would be glad if your right.^^
    Would be cool, if it would be that easy, but I can't believe it.
  • gammabreakergammabreaker Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Vindicator Mastery is the one that cross-shares damage between Ranged-Ego and Melee-Strength. Unfortunately it's pretty awful. It ends up being something like 9%.
  • sturmwolf65sturmwolf65 Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Come on...Vindicator Mastery can't be the only solution.

    (Thanks for the tip gammabreaker, but the effect is -as you said- a bit meh...)

    Ain't there anyone else with another idea to make it work?
    Or do I have to make a crybaby thread for some Dev to revamp that iron chain powers?
    :wink:
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