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PTS Update (8/18): FC.20.20110812.4
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FC.20.20110812.4 Patch Notes
ETA: 4:00 PM PST (GMT-7)
General Gameplay:
King of the Hill
Desert
Monster Island
Vibora Bay
Powers:
Claws
Gadgeteering
Martial Arts
Might
Power Armor
Telekinesis
Telepathy
Known Issues (Please write in red text when submitting bugs to this thread so issues are easier to find.):
ETA: 4:00 PM PST (GMT-7)
General Gameplay:
King of the Hill
- King of the Hill is a new Tier 3-Tier 4 team-based king of the hill-style PvP map. The object of this match is to control the hill located in the center of the cemetery. Defend the hill for as long as you can.
Desert
- Radioactive Ringleader: Fuel barrels should no longer hinder the progression of this mission.
Monster Island
- From Monster to Man: Transformed scientists no longer get stuck while exiting the area.
Vibora Bay
- Blast to the Past: The final cutscene should always play.
Powers:
Claws
- Tiger's Bite: The damage dealt for consuming Shredded now properly ranks up along with the rest of the power.
Gadgeteering
- Sonic Boom Generator: FX and audio has been corrected.
- Sonic Boom Generator: Radius reduced to 10' down from 15'. Cost reduced slightly, damage increased ~5%.
- Tanglecoil Launcher: Now properly costs a power point to purchase, instead of 2 Advantage Points.
- Pulse Beam Rifle: The damage and costing on this power have been reworked. Damage now scales up as the power is maintained.
Martial Arts
- Parry: The damage dealt back to the attacker when successfully parrying an attack has been modified slightly. Previously, this damage was completely irresistable, which would allow it to deal damage to targets that are intended to be completely immune to all damage (such as Statues of Therakiel). It now uses a small amount of the targets resistance when determining how much damage it deals. As such, the base damage of the reflected damage has been increased slightly to compensate for this.
Might
- Demolish: The debuff applied by this power was incorrectly affecting the damage dealt in the same application as the debuff. The debuff will now correctly take place after the hit, instead of prior to it.
- Mighty Kick: Madness?!: This advantage now correctly has a 100% chance to apply Defiance when fully charged, and will now properly only apply or refresh Defiance, instead of allowing it to stack up to 6 times.
Power Armor
- Mini Gun: U-238 Rounds: The debuff applied by this power was incorrectly affecting the damage dealt in the same application as the debuff. The debuff will now correctly take place after the hit, instead of prior to it.
- Mini Gun: U-238 Rounds: Now has the correct icon.
- Energy Wave: Should now show up in the proper category in the powers window.
- Energy Wave: Damage and cost increased.
- Energy Wave: Hardened Particle Matrix: Should now occur 100% of the time, instead of 15%. Should now properly display the Force Field amount/overlay on your Health UI.
Telekinesis
- Ego Blade Breach: The debuff applied by this power was incorrectly affecting the damage dealt in the same application as the debuff. The debuff will now correctly take place after the first hit, instead of prior to it. (The second hit in this power activation is still affected by the debuff.)
Telepathy
- Psychic Vortex: Ranks 2 and 3 of this power should no longer run as far away as they can from your foes, and should instead sit still like Rank 1.
- Collective Will: Consume Will: The debuff applied by this power was incorrectly affecting the damage dealt in the same application as the debuff. The debuff will now correctly take place after the hit, instead of prior to it.
- Collective Will: Consume Will: Now properly has an icon. Description updated to better reflect what the advantage does, as well.
Known Issues (Please write in red text when submitting bugs to this thread so issues are easier to find.):
- Powers hue palette is missing.
- Attempting to research items via crafting causes a client crash.
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Glad to see an exploit fixed but oh boy this is going to cause a flame war. Also may I suggest instead of increasing base damage to lower the cooldown on the reflect by half?
Does this mean there are 4 teams of 5 on this one map (ala 20 people) or that it is 2 teams of 4 (ala 8)?
Edit: NM the tiers made me totally miss read that. Darn you number 4!
So what was the point of the patch then exactly?
Is anything going to work today?
There is the answer...
Yeeehaaaaw!
I kinda liked having 2 portals wandering about me, felt kinda badass. Granted this probably plays better but I'll miss my little fuzzballs following me.
Hey, hey, hey. Don't bring logic and reading comprehension into this! Clearly this is a major issue. I mean. How dare they announce a patch, and then have the NERVE to bring the PTS down so they can apply it?
(DISCLAIMER: This post may be sarcasm.)
Peanut butter!
Seconding the vote for shorter cooldown on the parry.
The PA Energy wave changes should make a lot of people happy.
Edit: MMM peanut butter and jelly sammich... doh now I'm hungry.
This change is just a bug fix, and not intended to affect the strength level of the power in any serious way. We'll look into this request as we're reviewing the MA sets, though.
Is the PvP gear update around the corner? It had been said the PvP gear would be up at the same time as KotH or before it.
Yes please, this^
pvp gear is a big reason to pvp and will (hopefully) invite more people to join the games. This is what we really need now. Personally I'm hoping for some really unique items instead of stat gear.
Srsly. I don't even PVP that much, and I gotta say the gear rewards are kinda lame. Gimme an overarching goal to achieve for on those characters I do intend to PVP with (at some point in the future)!
Also, is there only supposed to be the one active door? If so, having three of them there is a little confusing (though it's mostly there for aesthetics, right? It looked like a mausoleum, so I can dig the multi-doors I guess).
For example:
Also, Pulse Beam Rifle's color cannot be changed. It is always red. Not certain if that's been brought up before, so I thought I'd mention it.
My apologies if this is the incorrect area to post such.
About time :-) but i bet Interest in running TT will drop quite a bit and the Global price of the sword will go up.
This was my experience as well, my ego blader with 10 strength was punting dummies, and my high strength might toon was... not.
All three work during the 5 second window the doors are active and drop you in different spots.
Also this 'how to play' thing is getting really annoying when trying to leave the door since you hit interact and tada how to play prompt not leave the darn spawn button
Sonic Boom Generator now has slightly higher dps than Experimental Burst Ray so it's not terrible anymore. It would be nice to have the AoE boosted back up to 15 feet, but I'd rather keep the damage/costing it has now with the smaller AoE. Would it be possible to make the adv debuff all energy resists instead of just sonic resists? There are not many sonic damage sources in game making the current debuff of only sonic resists lackluster. Also, would it be possible to make the orb larger scaling with charge time? Swinging while using this power causes the projectile to shoot from the left hand instead of the gun.
Energy Wave is slightly improved, but I still feel the damage and advantage are lacking... especially the advantage. Three adv points spent for a 900 damage shield (assuming 5 targets hit) is not worth it in my opinion. On the damage side I was hoping/expecting for closer to 4k non-crit on my avenger/elec form toon w/ 342 SS average but instead it's about 3k (at rank 3).
On the PvP side of things... I hope the devs enjoyed getting slaughtered as much as I enjoyed hearing about it on their new KotH map. Now the healing (and fixing) can begin.
Per the description of Quarry: When using attacks that aren't Energy Builders, you gain a single stack of Audacity.
...and yes I'm aware Mini-Gun and Shoulder Launcher share the same slot, you can still use them at the same time. Though I'm sure that's a bug it's been around since as long as I can remember. And while I'll be sad to see my Lightning Arc infused Concussor Beams go away eventually it really should be fixed.
On live, my rifter Shal gets 3-4k procs of Shadows and it tosses people away.
On test, it hit for 123 damage and no longer has knockback.
Please fix as I don' wanna shelf her again.
I was getting 1.8k against training dummies on Gigantes, and saw a few hits for 800-900 (heavily resisted) when actually in the KotH map (the few times I had time to catch my damage ticks anyway).
Though I'd be happy to help you test it out if you need a victim. >>
We didn't actually change anything with the individual powers, we changed how dodge thinks of powers with a 0 activation, so it should only have an effect when the target gets a dodge. If something has happened to it, it's not likely related to that change. I'll look into it.
We're looking into the other reports as well, thanks everyone.
The bonus Crit chance and Severity? It seems to be working fine for me. If are you referring to the damage buff and tracking, Targeting Computer only grants those to Ranged Technology attacks, and Energy Wave does not have the Ranged tag. While it isn't a melee power either, it is one of only a handful of powers that fall into neither category, being a PBAoE that is not melee.
Ahh, I was assuming that it would have the ranged tag since it's not melee and buffed by Avenger role. I guess that solves that mystery.
I find it odd melee only passives (like Way of the Warrior) work with melee PBAoE's (like Sword Cyclone) yet a "ranged" PBAoE power (like Energy Wave) isn't buffed by a ranged passive (like Targeting Computer). The fact "ranged" PBAoE powers are buffed by Avenger (which says nothing about buffing non-melee PBAoE's, just ranged) adds to the confusion.
Would it be possible to add the "Ranged" tag to all non-melee PBAoE powers?
Er, ewww?
That would make a number of powers in ranged sets melee attacks. Which would mean no Avenger bonus.
Cause Avenger wasn't bad enough?
I would expect everything within 10 feet to be melee. Anything outside of 10 feet would be tagged as ranged.
...that's assuming we continue the (in my opinion) horrible design flaw that is specific buffs/roles/debuffs for ranged/melee tags. I still say if melee is supposed to be better, buff the base melee powers and let players pick the utility they want without having to worry about crap like "oh, I can't make a ranged/melee offensive hybrid because the roles don't fully support it" or "But X power isn't tagged as ranged even though it's buffed by Avenger and longer than melee range so it won't work with the passive I have chosen".
Would it be wrong to ask for the archery's charge powers to be 0 activation time?
Its not a big deal, just that it feels like when your chargeing an archery attack its like your pulling back on the bow, and when you let off, its like your letting go of the arrow. but with the current activation time it doesnt feel that way at all. you just stand there for 1-2 sec more before you fire.
like I said, not really a big deal, just an immersion thing.
Maybe 0.5 second, otherwise tap archery charge powers would never be dodged.
but didnt Ame say somthing about how 0 activation time powers have been changed so tapping them can now be dodged currectly? (or rather how dodge was changed to handle them better)
hmm, ok how about if you charge more than 1sec the activation time falls to 0?
Energy wave is buffed by electric form, at least.
Of the 2, i'd take Eleform over TC Anyday due to it's bonuses, Or defiance for an actual PA Build (Rather than particle DPS) because of the energy return on hit
Then again, i'm weird like that.
I guess I'm weird like that too. I was never too keen on Targeting Computer and this latest revelation makes it fall flat on its face in my book.
I tested 3 powers by charging them half way and letting off and judgeing how long it takes them to activate.
Tazer Arrow with 0.5 sec activation time.
Torrent of Arrows with 0.65 sec activation time.
and Ebon Ruin with 0.65 activation time.
and it seems to me that Ebon Ruin fires pretty much instantly, with Torrent of Arrows waiting around for maybe 0.65 sec. but Tazer Arrow (with 0.5 activation time) lingers around for I want to say 1 to 1.5 sec or so. Its rather hard to tell with such short amounts of time.
But Tazer Arrow with the lowest activation time for sure lingers around the longest, with Ebon Ruin being pretty much instant.
so maybe Tazer Arrow and Ebon Ruin just have bugged activation times (or at least the Tooltip isnt saying the right number)
Wow targeting computer is absolutely TERRIBLE.
Sad its the only option for Gadgeteering if you don't want to look like crap and use electric form.
I guess my themed gadgettering toon will stick with his horrid mess bu the Min maxer inside me is screaming.
I guess the thought is that it would put a chainsaw or laser sword build over the top. But both of those need energy. DEX/EGO TC would be lacking energy compared to the DEX/INT combo that works so well with Quarry, the energy-on-dodge from Way of the Warrior, or the various energy buffs that you can get from Aura of Primal Majesty.
I recommend you devs save yourselves future trouble and remove the chainsaw/laser sword restriction.
Now that I think of it, every Tech set but Archery has a melee attack of some form, yet Archery is the one that gets a passive that buffs both melee and ranged damage (albeit mostly physical)?
Not that there is anything wrong with Quarry doing that. AT ALL. >_>
I was pushing for that, and I am very happy that stayed in.
All my melee users use quarry. And they have ALWAYS used quarry since the game launched.
Quarry is MY passive.
The main reason it has the restriction is actually for flavor/theme, in that it was supposed to be helping lock on projectiles fired at your foes. I don't really think that flavor is strong enough, or that incredibly advanced super technology couldn't assist a melee swing, so I'll add it to our list to review and possibly remove that restriction. It won't happen with this patch, but we'll look at it soon.
In the meantime, see you guys tonight in KOTH. >:]
This is a positive development... I hope to see more like it <. .>b