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Still to low stats on crafted items!

Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
edited September 2009 in Items and Crafting
So items that are craftable are still to lower then they are supposed to be.

Any ETA on a fix for this so we know when we'll be able to craft without waisting mats ?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    So, any words on this or what?
    It's a game breaker.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Maybe it would solve things if the drops wouldnt be so "high Quality".
    By doin the first Quest in the Millenium City Tut i drop more useful items than i can craft.
    I mean...i drop +10 Dex/+10 Recov, in me eyes these are unbalanced drops out there.

    Greetz,
    Mörser out
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Thats not what i meant. Items that are supposed to come out 5.1 Def and for example 17 ego comes out 4.9 def and 16 ego atm.

    My epic recipee i bought said 5 con, 9 endu and 9 ego. It's 4 con, 8 endu and 8 ego.

    So basiclly before they fix this you just waste your resources.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Ah k :D

    Greetz,
    Mörser out
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    and how exactly is 1 stat point less game breaking?

    Maybe all the developers should just stop fixing powers, making new content etc just so you can get your 1 stat point.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I just noticed the same thing. The science/invention I crafted stated 20 intelligence, but it crafted with 19.

    Disappointing. Hope it's fixed soon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    same issue here too....so dont feel like your being singled out
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    yowser wrote:
    and how exactly is 1 stat point less game breaking?

    Actually, it was 3 stat points, and over 9 items that's 27 stat points. And it sounds like it was a mid level item, which means its pretty darn bad.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    FoxtrotTwo wrote:
    same issue here too....so dont feel like your being singled out

    I'm not saying that. I just want some info if this is about to be fixed, Antiproton stated in another thread he found what was causing it, and a fix was getting to us. I'm just curios on when since it's been like this for a long time now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Cambios wrote:
    Actually, it was 3 stat points, and over 9 items that's 27 stat points. And it sounds like it was a mid level item, which means its pretty darn bad.

    Thank you, yes in the big picture it's a BIG loss in stat points. And also in the Energey/Physical defense, those numbers are lower to.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    yowser wrote:
    and how exactly is 1 stat point less game breaking?

    Maybe all the developers should just stop fixing powers, making new content etc just so you can get your 1 stat point.

    They have diffrent dev's for diffrent things.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Give me more details, Specific thing you are crafting, etc. Are you referring to the change in stats on algos the other week when the off by 1 bug got fixed? Are you seeing different numbers in a store vs. in inventory? Tell me the precise places you are getting different information and I can poke the right programmer to investigate.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I know that with one of the patches last week, the customizable crafted items took a hit. I can no longer craft the same items that I've currently got equipped. I'll have to wait till I get home to post specifics but in general, what I can make now is a couple of points off what I could last week. The customized primary offense I have is +45 STr, +9 Rec, but if I try to make it again, it tops at +43 STr (and .1 lower Phy/Eng def). I have a pair of secondary utility items (green name) that I have to make the Blue name version to get the same stats now. The green version is lower Phy/Eng.

    Was there a general tweak/lowering of the efficacy of crafted items overall?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Gamester66 wrote:
    I know that with one of the patches last week, the customizable crafted items took a hit. I can no longer craft the same items that I've currently got equipped. I'll have to wait till I get home to post specifics but in general, what I can make now is a couple of points off what I could last week. The customized primary offense I have is +45 STr, +9 Rec, but if I try to make it again, it tops at +43 STr (and .1 lower Phy/Eng def). I have a pair of secondary utility items (green name) that I have to make the Blue name version to get the same stats now. The green version is lower Phy/Eng.

    Was there a general tweak/lowering of the efficacy of crafted items overall?

    There was fix where crated items were making stats 1 level higher than they should have been, so anything you create now vs before that fix will be a bit weaker
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Antiproton wrote:
    Give me more details, Specific thing you are crafting, etc. Are you referring to the change in stats on algos the other week when the off by 1 bug got fixed? Are you seeing different numbers in a store vs. in inventory? Tell me the precise places you are getting different information and I can poke the right programmer to investigate.

    All of the 3 greater insight + 10g patterns that I've tried so far gave me lower stats in the crafting than they did in the store... there were others, but I don't remember offhand cause they have already been purchased.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    I am currently wearing 3 primaries and 6 secondaries that I can not reproduce, what's going on here?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    In another thread (or possibly it was DevChat) it was stated that the current restrictions in regard to stat availability on the customisable crafted items is as is was always intended to be...

    Apparently part of the balancing revolves around certain stats only being available (in quantity) on certain slots.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Antiproton wrote:
    Give me more details, Specific thing you are crafting, etc. Are you referring to the change in stats on algos the other week when the off by 1 bug got fixed? Are you seeing different numbers in a store vs. in inventory? Tell me the precise places you are getting different information and I can poke the right programmer to investigate.

    For example, the lvl 38 rares you can make came out 17 before 2 patches ago, now they only come out at max 16 with a reduce in engergy and physical defense.

    Same for some epic recipe i bought, it come out 4,8,8 and like 4.9 defenses. When i bought it it said 5,9,9 and 5.1.

    So items are still off by a couple of points. been like this for like 2 weeks now.
    Even common drops have better stats.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Eekoo wrote:
    For example, the lvl 38 rares you can make came out 17 before 2 patches ago, now they only come out at max 16 with a reduce in engergy and physical defense.
    That was a bugfix.

    The old stats were one level too high due to a data error (someone was using a non-zero based index on a table with a zero based index).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    WingedKagouti wrote:
    That was a bugfix.

    The old stats were one level too high due to a data error (someone was using a non-zero based index on a table with a zero based index).


    Ohh, alright so basicly the made crafting in this game a non-factor?
    And how does that explain that if i by a recipe, that states 5.9.9 and it turns out 4,8,8 ?

    But anyways, thanks for the input mate. Now atleast i know.. :/
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Eekoo wrote:
    And how does that explain that if i by a recipe, that states 5.9.9 and it turns out 4,8,8 ?
    That's a display bug for the store, it used to affect all stores that sold endgame gear, but the others should have been fixed by now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Eekoo wrote:
    Ohh, alright so basicly the made crafting in this game a non-factor?

    Non factor?

    I once had reason to craft a single item that I replaced 5 minutes later by a much better lower level quest reward.

    Once..

    I still dismantle my items i the vain hope a crafted item might actually be useful.

    Stat combo's are always wrong though. And when they are, they're usually worse than quest items.

    I'm a sucker for concept, so I always go for the crafting school that fits my char.

    Really, all stat combo's really need to be available from an earlier level. Otherwise, crafting is just useless to the early game.
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