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Frequent Rubber-banding

Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
edited September 2009 in PC & Technical Issues
I am having frequent rubber-banding problems on this computer (see atached DXDiags). I have another computer on the this same home network that has NO problems, so I'm pretty sure its the computer and not the network, but what do I know?

UPDATE: See MindReaver's post for solution (Vista)

This computer is:
Vista
AMD processor
4GB mem
Nvidia GTX285
MSI wireless LAN card.
Router: Linksys WRT54G
I am in L.A.

The attached (down-rez'ed) screenshot is using /netTimingGraph /showfps and screenshot_ui_jpg. I have lots of screenshots like this, and the netgraph parts all look the same to me. There is very little variation in the shape and sequence of the anomalies. The only real difference is the length/duration of the 'red bar' on the bottom, but the variation is maybe 50% at most.

I have tried disabling the firewall (Norton), and that made no difference. No other programs are running (that I know of).
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    This is a very well known issue that Cryptic are working on. There is a sticky in the general forums about lagging.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Solution: I disabled my wireless network card, and turned on the wired network. This solved the problem. I switched back and forth to confirm that the wireless device was the problem. Since it works on my other machine, I have to assume its the Vista drivers that are actually the problem.

    Windows Vista 64-bit, Device Manager says it is:
    Ralink Technology Corp.
    802.11g PCI Turbo Wireless Adapter
    Driver Date: 6/10/2009
    Driver Version: 2.1.5.0
    The box I bought it in is labeled:
    MSI (Micro-Star International)
    PC60G: Wireless 11g Turbo G PCI Card
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    This is actually a Windows Vista Problem, and not Cryptics Problem. There is a solution but it's very annoying, blame windows. The problem is that Wireless networks are set to check for new networks every 1 minute. Everytime it does this any internet activity completely stops for about 3 seconds. In XP you could turn this off, but in Vista you cannot through a normal means. Here is the solution:

    On your desktop right click and go to New> Shortcut. Then a box comes up asking for the shortcut command. Put this into the shortcut line:

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=yes interface="Wireless Network Connection"

    Then make another shortcut and put this:

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="Wireless Network Connection"

    Name the first one Internet ON, The second one Internet OFF. Everytime before you start an internet game, double click the OFF one. This will stop Vista from looking for wireless networks. Then turn it back on when you're done or leave it off (I do). The only time you need it to turn back on is if you disconnect from your network somehow. Then you just turn it right back on, connect, and right back off.

    P.S. ATTENTION: On those command lines where it says" Wireless Network Connection", You must make that the name of your wireless network connection. To find out what that is on your bottom right tray right click your internet symbol and go to Networking and Sharing center. Then it will say Connection: Wireless Network Connection (RouterName). You need to put whatever that is in there, without the router name. If you don't do it correctly, when you run the file it will say "No such network exist" so you'll know you need to fix it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Wow. That fixed it alright. When is the Linux version of Champions out? :rolleyes:


    Thanks!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    You're welcome. I noticed it was a computer problem and not specific game problem because a few months ago I would play WC3, TF2 and other games and I would get the same periodic lag spike in all of them so I looked all over the internet for a solution and finally found it.

    I have posted this solution in its own thread and perhaps it can get stickied as I am sure there are many Vista Wireless users out there that have no idea that is a problem they can fix.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    MindReaver wrote:
    You're welcome. I noticed it was a computer problem and not specific game problem because a few months ago I would play WC3, TF2 and other games and I would get the same periodic lag spike in all of them so I looked all over the internet for a solution and finally found it.

    I have posted this solution in its own thread and perhaps it can get stickied as I am sure there are many Vista Wireless users out there that have no idea that is a problem they can fix.

    When i try your method is says

    The Wireless Autoconfig service (wlansvc) is not running
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    And you are running Windows Vista with a Wireless network Card? As I stated, I found this solution on the internet so unfortunately I cannot give any real troubleshooting advice beyond my general computer knowledge. I don't know the specifics but it sounds like you are not running a wireless service.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I am having this same problem, and I actually had the problem on TF2 as well after I installed Vista 64bit. I created the short cuts like you said and changed the SSID in the properties command line, but its still saying that the network doesn't exist. Not sure what I could be doing wrong.

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="larry"

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="Wireless Network Connection (larry)"
    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="(larry)"

    I've tried it 100 different ways.... And I for sure have a wireless connection.

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="Wireless Network Connection"

    If I just leave it like this, then it gives me a message saying, "You do not have sufficient privledges or group policy has been applied."

    SOLUTION!: I'm dumb, if you were having that problem just right click the short cut and "Run as Administrator." Problem solved. Thanks for the help!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Kronnik990 wrote:
    I am having this same problem, and I actually had the problem on TF2 as well after I installed Vista 64bit. I created the short cuts like you said and changed the SSID in the properties command line, but its still saying that the network doesn't exist. Not sure what I could be doing wrong.

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="larry"

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="Wireless Network Connection (larry)"
    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="(larry)"

    I've tried it 100 different ways.... And I for sure have a wireless connection.

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=no interface="Wireless Network Connection"

    If I just leave it like this, then it gives me a message saying, "You do not have sufficient privledges or group policy has been applied."

    SOLUTION!: I'm dumb, if you were having that problem just right click the short cut and "Run as Administrator." Problem solved. Thanks for the help!

    Here is what worked for me. You don't use the name but the windows assigned network number above your router name. Here is the exact scrpit for the ON version:

    C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /k netsh wlan set autoconfig enabled=yes interface="Wireless Network Connection 3"

    Don't know if it works yet, I will let you all know as soon as possible. One last thing did anyone notice a drop down menu just above the patch progress bar in the launcher last night with two options? One was for normal and another for Vista or something along those lines. So maybe we will see a fix for this soon if you can't get the autoconfig working. Good luck :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited September 2009
    Like I said before it's not actually something crpytic can fix, unless they are going to try to modify this windows setting, which windows firewall will probably call foul on if they do. Sorry you guys had trouble, glad to see you worked it out. I tried to word what name you needed to put into the quotes as best I could but apparently it wasnt descriptive enough but yes, it cannot have your router name on there. I suppose a better way to put it would be:

    Go to Network and Sharing Center
    Click Manage Network Connections
    You should see the name of your wireless connection there, and that is the name you need.

    P.S. As others have pointed out, you need administrative priviledges to do this, or at least run it as admin.
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