Two New Builds: Lasers & Wendigos

circleofpsi

So got another 2 builds I wish to try out thanks to the new powers that came out, the first build will be quite similar to Gadgeteering DPS Build I had already made but with some key power changes.

The 2nd build is up to date version of my old Wendigo Build but also a new one to go along with it, so two builds in one, hopefully that is not confusing.


Lasers Build:

This build will have a heavy focus on everything Lasers with some other minor powers to make sure the build is viable and useful, so I've gone for the new Eye Lasers, Chest Beam as my two Laser powers but I do not know what Single-Target DMG, I can grab for this build. After that I have Electro Magnet and Radiation Poisoning to upkeep Plasma Burn and to effect MSA/Technological Poweress and I have Bionic Shielding as a possbile power so I can keep myself protected and others (and mostly for MSA)

So the last 2 powers as ? I don't know to pick, but the rest are the basic Heal/AD/Self Rez, etc

Super Stats
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Marksman (Dex: 10, Int: 10, Ego: 10, End: 8)
Level 6: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)
Level 9: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
Level 18: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Power Bolts
Level 1: Eye Lasers (Rank 2, Disintegrate)
Level 6: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Radiation Suit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Chest Beam (Rank 2, Point Blank Blast)
Level 14: Electro Magnet(Rank 2, Redirect Power)
Level 17: Bionic Shielding? (Rank 2, Rank 3) (Or Download?)
Level 20: Single Target Power? (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Radiation Poisoning (Rank 2, Particle Blast)
Level 26: Technological Poweress
Level 29: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 32: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Resurgence
Level 38: Thundering Return
Adv. Points: 30/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Power Skating (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35:

Specializations
Intelligence: Preparation (2/2)
Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

Devices


Here is the 2nd build:

So this is the updated version of my older build, I ditched Frenzy in favor for Dragon Kick cuz I really dislike how Frenzy can be used without any targets, it messes up with my muscle memory. However if I need another AoE to proc bleed, please go ahead and suggest one.


(Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Melee Damage)
v3.45:38

Super Stats
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Penitent (Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
Level 6: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
Level 9: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Bestial Fury
Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
Level 6: Antagonize (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Way of the Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Void Shift
Level 14: Howl (Rank 2, Rank 3, Make them Tremble)
Level 17: Dragon Kick (Rank 2, Dragon Rush)
Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
Level 23: Moonstruck (Rank 2, Lunar Force)
Level 26: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Supernatural Power
Level 32: Aspect of the Bestial
Level 35: Resurgence
Level 38: Thundering Return
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Swift Skating (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Stoic Flight

Specializations
Strength: Swole (2/3)
Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Overpower (3/3)
Warden: Slaughter (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Upper Hand (2/3)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
Brawler: Finishing Blow (3/3)
Brawler: Setup (2/2)
Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

Devices


Now another version of this build is more of a Blood Mage/Wendigo, so a copy and paste of the same build but differ powers, hance why I only will post the power section here:

So I have Pestilence/Will-o'-the-Wisp and Cruse to help with the theme of spreading "toxic blood" and I have Violent Roar with it's adv for even more dps and to help spread Bleed around. I was going to have Bite in the build but it does consume my Bleeds, so I don't think that'll be wise. I did put in the Ult as well but ditched a Self-Rez in favor for such (I shuold be fine without one)

Also I can go for Endorphin Rush over Conviction if need be. Also if the Ult not works out I may go and pick Howl or Call To Battle for the extra DPS or Shielding, not sure yet. (I want this build to be more of a much more blood thirsty version)

Powers
Level 1: Bestial Fury
Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
Level 6: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Antagonize (Rank 2)
Level 11: Void Shift
Level 14: Will-o'-the-Wisp (Rank 2, Guide)
Level 17: Curse (Rank 2, Needles)
Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
Level 23: Aspect of the Bestial
Level 26: Violent Roar (Rank 2, Blood Roar)
Level 29: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Resurgence
Level 35: Supernatural Power
Level 38: Corrosive Pit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Adv. Points: 36/36

flowcyto

For the 1st build, Chest Beam can be fine as your main single-target attack, though I'd prob just get it to R3 instead of having to get close for the adv. Chest Beam will take much energy to use constantly, though, but you can make it more manageable by taking Avenger spec for Preemptive Strike, and then you can alternate between Eye Laser (a Blast) and Chest Beam for single-targets, which is easier on energy. Chest Beam is actually not that good for AoE, imo, since its cylinder is very narrow. I'd prob invest in an AoE attack w/ wider reach to handle trash, and keep Chest Beam for mostly single-target dps.

Although Bionic Shielding (and Conviction) can be good for MSA, ideally a dps build shouldn't normally be using a non-dmg power for MSA like that. Since you have many Radiation effects (like PBurn, Burn Through, and Disintegrate) I may just get Unified Theory as the EU, since it'll be easier to proc than MSA (scales w/ End, which you also have SS'd). You also prob won't need Radiation Poisoning either then, though Electro Magnet can still be handy for AoE utility. I may also just use Concentration as the toggle/form here, since it can be easier to proc than the new toggle/forms, but it's up to you.

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For the 2nd build, your reason for ditching Frenzy for Dragon Kick is strange, since Dragon Kick can also be used w/o a target. Dragon Kick also won't proc AotB or Supernatural Power, so it's not really a good fit here (also, Rush's duration scales w/ Focus stacks from MA toggle/forms, which you aren't using here). I may just go back to Frenzy as it is a fitting and easy-to-use melee AoE, but you can always try Venom Breath, Epidemic, or Lacerating Cyclone (w/ Vortex adv) instead, since they still work with the toggle/form and EU (though Epidemic and Cyclone can also be used w/o a target, and Epidemic is also quite expensive now). Most of the rest of the build seems okay.

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For the 3rd build, I don't think there's much worth in getting the new AO w/ the Bleed adv when its uptime is low, and it can be pretty easy to apply/spread bleeds as is with AoEs that bleed (Frenzy, Lacerating Cyclone, or even Shred's own cleave) and/or with half-charges of Bite w/ the Rabies adv. Also, Bite will only consume debuffs if you fully charge it, which you don't have to do if you don't want that effect, but Bite is also optional for bleeds here since you have other potential sources of Bleeds you could pick from. The Ult is okay if you really want it for the theme, but it's a Ranged Ult so it won't be as potent on a melee build. I also prob wouldn't get normal ranks on the Wisp (ranks only buff its upfront dmg, which isn't worth much).

I will admit that I'm not that clear on what you're going for w/ this version of the build, though, so I'm not quite sure on how to refine it and/or how to try to differentiate it from the 2nd build. If you want it to be a 'toxic' Bestial build (for example) then you could keep the Wisp + Curse combo and add Venom Breath, Vicious Cyclone (w/ Vortex), or Frenzy (w/ the Poison claws adv) for AoE, and still keep Shred and Massacre for single-target.

circleofpsi

Based on feedback I have done the following:

Lasers Build:

I've gone ahead and replaced MSA with Unified Theory (forgot that existed lol), I will keep in Technological Poweress however, I will also put Chest Beam to Rank 3 as suggested and placed in Avenger, so a pure DPS setup. I put in Bad Sector R3 (or with its Adv) but unsure of the last power, but I'll see what I can do.


Super Stats
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Marksman (Dex: 10, Int: 10, Ego: 10, End: 8)
Level 6: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)
Level 9: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
Level 18: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Power Bolts
Level 1: Eye Lasers (Rank 2, Disintegrate)
Level 6: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Radiation Suit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Chest Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Electro Magnet(Rank 2, Redirect Power)
Level 17: ???
Level 20: Bad Sector? (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Radiation Poisoning (Rank 2, Particle Blast)
Level 26: Technological Poweress
Level 29: Unified Theory
Level 32: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Resurgence
Level 38: Thundering Return
Adv. Points: 30/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Power Skating (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35:

Specializations
Intelligence: Preparation (2/2)
Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Avenger: Ruthless (3/3)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)
Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

Devices


For the 2nd build:

Yeah, I am really bad at trying to explain things but I guess I can try lol, for builds that are melee I gotten used to the lock on target effect when it requires a target and then holding down a non-target power (such as Dragon Kick) for a AoE burst, rather then tapping the power during fighting but yes I ended up going for Lacerating Cyclone /w Vortex since its a power I can hold down and a spinning chain of death seems kinda cool.

As for the 3rd build yes a little confusing I am sorry but the build is as you said it is: 'toxic' Bestial build to keep Wisp + Curse, etc.

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Melee Damage)
v3.45:38

Super Stats
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Penitent (Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
Level 6: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
Level 9: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Bestial Fury
Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
Level 6: Antagonize (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Way of the Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Void Shift
Level 14: Howl (Rank 2, Rank 3, Make them Tremble)
Level 17: Lacerating Cyclone (Rank 2, Vortex Technique)
Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
Level 23: Moonstruck (Rank 2, Lunar Force, Midnight Frenzy)
Level 26: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Supernatural Power
Level 32: Aspect of the Bestial
Level 35: Resurgence
Level 38: Thundering Return
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Swift Skating (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Stoic Flight

Specializations
Strength: Swole (2/3)
Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Overpower (3/3)
Warden: Slaughter (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Upper Hand (2/3)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
Brawler: Finishing Blow (3/3)
Brawler: Setup (2/2)
Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

Devices


3rd build: I have gone ahead and removed the new AO and put in Venomous Breath (tho unsure what adv is better) and kept in Will of Wisp, however since Cruse is already a AoE, I may end up taking something else other then Venomous Breath (or Vice versa) Since I may want to grab Howl or Call to Battle here.

Powers
Level 1: Bestial Fury
Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
Level 6: Venomous Breath (Rank 2, Paralytic Bile, Locust Breath)
Level 8: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Void Shift
Level 14: Antagonize (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Curse (Rank 2, Needles)
Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
Level 23: Will-o'-the-Wisp (Guide, Ghost Fire)
Level 26: Endorphin Rush (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Supernatural Power
Level 32: Aspect of the Bestial
Level 35: Resurgence
Level 38: Thundering Return
Adv. Points: 34/36

flowcyto

For the 1st build: If using Bad Sector, then I assume you want its shield adv too? Mine as well if you're keeping it, since the power is not of much use here otherwise. Beyond that adv, I also prob wouldn't rank up Bad Sector as a priority. Also, I'd get a normal AoE for the remaining power, since you lack a non-cd one that has good coverage atm. Also, it's a smaller thing, but you prob want to max Mass Destruction in Vind here, since your strongest single-target attack (Chest Beam) is still an AoE. I'd also drop Offensive Expertise in Avenger, since you don't have an AO in the build atm (the other options are fine to keep; you can use the remaining 2pts in Relentless Assault if you get a maintain for the wide AO attack, or just spend them elsewhere- and Ruthless in Avenger only allows 2 pts still, not 3, but that's prob just an editing typo).

For the 2nd build: The Cyclone AoE is fine. It won't deal much dmg alone, but w/ the Vortex adv it can rope-in enemies in a wide area, and then it's also easier to cleave them down w/ Shred.

For the 3rd build: I'd prob keep Venom Breath here (or a similar non-cd wide AoE)- unless you just wanted to rely heavily on Shred's cleave, but that's also less thematic and makes it more similar to the other build. But yeah, w/ Venom Breath's stun adv you don't really need Curse's AoE stun (unless you also wanted to get its self-heal adv, but Vile Lariat can also supply that adv for less energy and give you a potential knock option). Wisp's poisoning also won't be as needed, but you can still use it for long-range tagging and the Illum + Ghost Fire advs (and it will also soften up its primary target for more Toxic dmg, at least). I prob would avoid Howl (or CtB), since you already have a build w/ Howl that utilizes it better (w/ Moonstruck), but it's up to you.

circleofpsi

Here are the builds based on the last feedback

1st build: So I've added Analyze Weakness over any other ranks and for my non-cd AoE, I've the choice of Rocket Punch or Sonic Boom Generator, porb will go with SBG due to I don't think crushing is part of the Passive.

Also swapped the Spec a you said

Super Stats
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Marksman (Dex: 10, Int: 10, Ego: 10, End: 8)
Level 6: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)
Level 9: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
Level 18: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Power Bolts
Level 1: Eye Lasers (Rank 2, Disintegrate)
Level 6: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Radiation Suit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Unified Theory
Level 14: Chest Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Sonic Boom Generator (Rank 2, Disruption Module)
Level 20: Electro Magnet (Rank 2, Redirect Power)
Level 23: Bad Sector (Analyze Weakness)
Level 26: Radiation Poisoning (Rank 2, Particle Blast)
Level 29: Technological Prowess
Level 32: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Resurgence
Level 38: Thundering Return
Adv. Points: 30/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Power Skating (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35:

Specializations
Intelligence: Preparation (2/2)
Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Anguish (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)
Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

Devices


2nd build: Done and done, will keep the chain, but if it turns out not good I may swap it back or for somethin else



3rd build: So I do plan on keepin Wisp and Cruse, but for the nomral AoE I got two choices: Venomous Breath /w Infectious Bile or go back to Bite /w Rabies.

VB /w it's adv I can have it set up where I used Cruse or Shred to spread Bleed and have VB to have a higher chance of Toxic (Or) I can go back with Bite and use it to Spread Toxin when I used Wisp or Cruse (or any power, due to my passive) to spread it even more while healing me on single targets. (on top of my nomral heal power)


Powers
Level 1: Bestial Fury
Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
Level 6: Venomous Breath (Rank 2, Paralytic Bile, Locust Breath)
Level 8: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Void Shift
Level 14: Antagonize (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Curse (Rank 2, Needles)
Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
Level 23: Will-o'-the-Wisp (Guide, Ghost Fire)
Level 26: Endorphin Rush (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Supernatural Power
Level 32: Aspect of the Bestial
Level 35: Resurgence
Level 38: Thundering Return

flowcyto

Sonic Boom Gen is a fine AoE, but it won't proc Unified Theory, which would be my only concern w/ using it in the 1st build. Maybe you can try Plasma Radiation and pair that w/ Electro Magnet for AoE? Or, if you want to keep SBG as AoE, maybe get the PBurn adv (Reactor) on Electro Magnet to proc Unified Theory that way? Either approach could work, I think.

I may stick w/ Venom Breath in the 3rd build, since Bite isn't technically an AoE- it just can spread DoTs in AoE (and you have to build them up on the Bite target first, and even then the DoTs won't deal much dmg on their own).

circleofpsi

flowcyto wrote: »

Sonic Boom Gen is a fine AoE, but it won't proc Unified Theory, which would be my only concern w/ using it in the 1st build. Maybe you can try Plasma Radiation and pair that w/ Electro Magnet for AoE? Or, if you want to keep SBG as AoE, maybe get the PBurn adv (Reactor) on Electro Magnet to proc Unified Theory that way? Either approach could work, I think.

Yup, I went ahead and put PBurn adv (Reactor) on Electro Magnet to proc Unified Theory, since I do plan on keepin SBG, I also swapped a adv around on Radiation Poisoning so it stacks more PBurn, rather than the AoE thing and it works so much better.

flowcyto wrote: »

I may stick w/ Venom Breath in the 3rd build, since Bite isn't technically an AoE- it just can spread DoTs in AoE (and you have to build them up on the Bite target first, and even then the DoTs won't deal much dmg on their own).

Yup after swappin and testin I found that Venom Breath is much easier to use and fits way better, however what I did do tho is drop Wisp and went for CtB due to the shield and quick heal it gives is very handy for both to keep myself alive longer and a quick painc button if I need to do a quick heal and block (or attack due to the protection).

It won't porc any EU or anything, but its handy non the less and I got 2 methods of spreading Toxin (on top of my passive) so it shuold be fine

flowcyto

Yea if you want CtB instead for the theme and for Reckless/Bastion then that's okay too. Hope the three builds work well for you, regardless.