Bug: Frost Ice Rifle not Shattering/rupturing properly... like, at all?

thisiscraftaaa

So, I bothered porting one of my character with a Frost Ice Rifle over to the PTS to do some testing during the writing of my latest wall of PVD suggestions, and apparently Frost Ice Rifle doesn't actually Shatter on full maintain despite its tooltip saying it does. The Shatter power itself ruptures Chilled stacks, but Frost Ice Rifle does not. Maybe that's intentional though, I don't know; the tooltip only mentions "Shatter" and "Ice Structures" after all. However, any Ice Cages spawned also do not Shatter/rupture on a full maintain either, and the Frost Ice Rifle does nothing but apply Chilled Stacks and occasionally, from those, spawn an Ice Cage that acts like a weak DoT for a little while. No Shattering to be found, not here or there or anywhere at all.

For reference, since I get the feeling it'll be asked, I was running this build specifically, with Frost Ice Rifle in PVD slot 2 (I usually put Qularr there on this one) and U-MD Ghosthunter Phase Rifle in PVD slot 3.

The gear was:
Justice Gloves of Precision (Ego Enh 7, Ego Enh 7, Gambler's 7, Sev Core 7)
Justice Tights of Fitness (Ego Arm 7, Ego Arm 7, Growth Am 7, Growth Am 7)
Justice Mask of Speed (Ego Enh 7, Ego Arm 7, Veteran's Core, ASCII's Precision 7)
Onslaught Gloves of the Sniper (Dex/Ego Enh 5)
Onslaught Tights of Fitness (Dex/Ego Enh 5)
Onslaught Mask of Efficiency (Dex/Ego Enh 5)

I was using the various Regenerating Test Dummies in the Powerhouse to test, mostly the two on the platform at the far right from the entrance to the generic/standard test chamber with the Test Dummies of varying levels on the left.

While talking in trade chat at the time, I got confirmation from other players that this is apparently a long-running issue, and I'm not sure if that means it's already been reported and just never fixed, or if it hasn't been reported at all yet, so... ah, instead of checking to see if it's been posted about a year or two ago or however long it's been (time doesn't even make sense when playing this game) I'll just put this up here now, since I encountered the issue now after all.



Update, on Live I've got someone else successfully Shattering with Frosty Ice Rifle, but on PTS it isn't Shattering properly. They're using a different build. I got on the PTS to test again and I'm still noticing the same issue, but paying closer attention, there's more to it. It might be a bug with something in this build, potentially, or it might be a PTS-only issue? Most of the time, Ice Cages aren't Shattering at all. Occasionally, I AM seeing Shatter ticks but they aren't despawning the Ice Cage until several seconds later? Inversely, it seems like Ice Cages are SPAWNING from Shatter ticks, or only on the exact same ticks AS a Shatter happening (sometimes with Shatter happening before the Ice Cage even appears) then disappearing several seconds later? While sometimes it just doesn't Shatter at all?

Let's see, I've gotten...
An Ice Cage to spawn at 8 seconds instead of 10, only to immediately snap up to 10, then tick down to 3 without Shattering.
An Ice Cage to spawn and instantly Shatter twice on the same tick.
An Ice Cage to spawn AFTER a Shatter on nothing, then despawn after three ticks.
Several Ice Cages to spawn on the same tick AS a Shatter on nothing.
Several Ice Cages to Shatter while remaining fully active, not just the DoT but the entire Ice Cage.
And then most of the Ice Cages just don't want to Shatter at all for some reason, not unless it's on the same maintain they spawned on.

I have no idea what's wrong with this cursed abomination, but I'm going to be honest, I'm glad I never bothered with it until now and would advise anyone reading to never bother with it ever. There's something horribly wrong with this device. It's unnatural and might be evil.

kaiserin

The shatter effect could probably be explained a bit better. The shatter power consumes chill, the shatter effect only consumes ice structures.

Live and pts are on the same build, so it's likely a different issue.

I cannot repro the frost rifle not shattering structures, though. It does only have a chance to, unless you're at rank 3 assault rifle, and will only shatter your structures. I tried with the ice cage power, and the ice cages spawned by frost rifle's chill effect.

thisiscraftaaa

I'm not sure what else to raise for the issue; the only Ice Cages I was using were, since it was that build, whatever was spawning off the Chilleds applied by R3 Frosty Ice Rifle, and my description of that was just from standing there shooting a Regenerating Test Dummy for about half an hour, occasionally pausing to check the combat logs when something didn't line up visually.