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Need advice with a Celestial Healer build please

criswolf09criswolf09 Posts: 748 Arc User
edited June 2020 in Builds and Roles
This is the build.

Redemption - Freeform (Support)
v3.43:35

Super Stats
Level 6: Presence (Primary)
Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Witch (Con: 10, Int: 8, Pre: 10, Rec: 10)
Level 6: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 15: Prodigy (Pre: 5, End: 5)
Level 18: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Radiance
Level 1: Celestial Conduit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Vengeance (Rank 2, Redemption Denied)
Level 8: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Conviction (Rank 2, Reverence)
Level 14: Compassion
Level 17: Expulse
Level 20: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Iniquity (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
Level 29: Circle of Radiant Glory
Level 32: Ascension (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 38: Transcendence
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Teleportation
Level 35: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)

Specializations
Presence: Repurpose (2/3)
Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
Presence: Dominion (2/2)
Presence: Moment of Glory (2/3)
Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
Sentinel: Eternal Spring (2/2)
Sentinel: Caregiver (2/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (2/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Sentinel: Genesis (2/2)
Sentry: Fortified Gear (2/3)
Sentry: Precise (2/3)
Sentry: Sentry Aura (2/3)
Sentry: Fortify (2/2)
Sentry: Reinforce (2/2)
Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

Devices
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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    You prob want Illumination (or Wisp w/ Guide adv) if using Celestial Conduit (and maybe also get Ascension's special adv then). You could also get Vuln in Pres PSS, if you plan on using charged Vengeance enough. The build also doesn't have an EU, though that may not be a huge deal here. I may also put some ranks into Expulse, if using it to AoE heal. You could also max Caregiver and Sent Aura in Sentinel spec, and Precise in Sentry spec.
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    holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    Here's my feedback :
    - Celestial Conduit : I'm not sure what it's doing here. Is it your main dps power?
    - Seraphim is not the best support passive, on top of being an Energy Form and therefore cancellable (some bosses can do that). Try to choose a sorcery aura passive instead.
    - Expulse : if you don't rank it for the healing rune nor pick any adv for the cc, then I don't see what it is doing here?
    - Circle of Radiant Glory : if you need a self-rez, I think you better pick a real self-rez. Also CoRG means 0 mobility, you'll not be able to roam from 1 group to another to provide heals.
    - Redemption adv Salvation : forget it, it's bad. It divides the %hp by the number of rezzed players, like you'll rezz them with such low hp that they might insta-die again.
    - Sentinel Mastery : you've only 1 power with paralyze...
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    criswolf09criswolf09 Posts: 748 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    I adjusted the build with the feedback and Conduit is my main single target DPS:

    Redemption v2 - Freeform (Support)
    v3.43:35

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Presence (Primary)
    Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Witch (Con: 10, Int: 8, Pre: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 15: Prodigy (Pre: 5, End: 5)
    Level 18: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Radiance
    Level 1: Celestial Conduit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Vengeance (Rank 2, Redemption Denied)
    Level 8: Aura of Radiant Protection (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Conviction (Rank 2, Reverence)
    Level 14: Compassion
    Level 17: Illumination
    Level 20: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Iniquity (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 26: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
    Level 29: Fiery Embrace
    Level 32: Ascension (Rank 2, Judgment)
    Level 35: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Transcendence
    Adv. Points: 36/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Teleportation
    Level 35: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)

    Specializations
    Presence: Repurpose (2/3)
    Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
    Presence: Dominion (2/2)
    Presence: Moment of Glory (2/3)
    Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
    Sentinel: Eternal Spring (2/2)
    Sentinel: Caregiver (3/3)
    Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
    Sentinel: Genesis (2/2)
    Sentry: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Sentry: Precise (3/3)
    Sentry: Fortify (2/2)
    Sentry: Reinforce (2/2)
    Mastery: Presence Mastery (1/1)

    Devices

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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    Vengeance w/ adv is good enough to get Sent Mastery and Vuln/Wither for, imo, since it's not a cd ability- you just have to wave it into your rotations, so it'll just come down to how you plan on playing the build or what your goals are for it. Seraphim is okay, but I'm curious as to how many bosses are disabling Energy Forms now? EFs really need to be reformed, either way.
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    holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    I've not done the count but I've met some.

    @criswolf09 : I don't think you've that many changes to do. You can keep the Sentinel Mastery and stick to Celestial powers too but I would probably swap Celestial Conduit for Rebuke R2 w/ Admonish. You can use Rebuke either as an offensive way (to deal damages) or defensive way (especially if you target a teammate who's in the middle of aggro).
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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    Well, both Conduit and Rebuke can be used as nuke or a as a heal. Main difference between them is that Conduit can be made to chain to other targets via Illuminaton, while Rebuke has a CC adv and can go upto 100ft- but can't chain. He already has Iniquity for a 100ft single-target heal, though. There could be some other tweaks made, but I think the build looks okay as is, whether going the CC/debuff route or the more pure healer route- just as long as energy is fine (prob will be, but I guess that's something to see in practice).
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    holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    Yes, that's right.
    My suggestion isn't that much to tweak the whole build as I, actually, would only swap Conduit for Rebuke to have a 2nd cc.
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    jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,431 Arc User
    Instead of Vengeance, how about the very similar
    Condemn (Redemption Denied, Dark Rune)
    Let's you drop a healing rune that could help those fighting the boss.

    If you find that energy is not a problem, maybe just put some talents in Rec and SSS Dex to boost crits for Conduit and Condemn/Vengeance (Conviction can crit too, I believe)?
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    holloweaverholloweaver Posts: 582 Arc User
    Yes, Conviction can crit.
    But Iniquity can not (I'm mentioning it simply because he has this power in his build).
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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    Yeah, Condemn can work well here too, since it's nearly the same power as Vengeance. Just as long as he doesn't mind a bit lower dmg from the nuke (by taking the rune over R2), and he doesn't add a healing rune somewhere else.
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    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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