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kaiserin#0958 kaiserin
kaiserin#0958
 Posts: 3,210 Cryptic Developer
edited August 2019 in PTS - The Archive
FC.31.20190810.1

Behemoth
Corrected diminishing return values on this archetype.

New Power Progression:
  • 1 Clobber
  • 1 Defensive Combo
  • 6 Mighty Leap
  • 8 Defiance
  • 11 Thunderclap OR Demolish
  • 14 Enrage
  • 17 Uppercut OR Haymaker
  • 21 Retaliation
  • 25 Brute Force
  • 30 Havoc Stomp OR Shockwave
  • 35 Indestructible OR Endorphin Rush
  • 40 Warcry




New Archetype: The Wrecker
Strength - Constitution - Recovery
Warden - Brawler
Unlock item is available on the Debugger store.
Costume is placeholder.

Power Progression:
  • 1 Clobber
  • 1 Beatdown
  • 6 Mighty Leap
  • 8 Unstoppable
  • 11 Demolish OR Roomsweeper
  • 14 Enrage
  • 17 Haymaker
  • 21 Retaliation
  • 25 Brute Force
  • 30 Shockwave OR Havoc Stomp
  • 35 Aggressor OR Endorphin Rush
  • 40 Unleashed Rage



FC.31.20190810.1


Devastator
Changed power choices:
  • 35: Aggressor OR Endorphin Rush



Mountain
Changed power choices:
  • 25: Destructive
  • 30: Fault Line OR Quicksand
  • 35: Unbreakable


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  • qawsadaqawsada Posts: 746 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    Bug
    The Behemoth's choice at level 11 is between Thunderclap and Demolish, not Thunderclap OR Roomsweeper.

    Bug
    The Reckless Adv on the Haymaker doesn't seem to work or increase the dps of Haymaker by 30% compare to R3. Here is a chart for referance. I only use the lunge that applies Reckless and Haymaker x2. I tested both R3 and the adv with r2 three times each.

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  • nyghtshroude#9048 nyghtshroude
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         Posts: 212 Arc User
    My review:

    The Wrecker is a great archetype. It's a combination of the advantages I chose but this is a great choice. I really hope you offer this for free - because it's to me as good as the Savage. Don't know what it was but I got a shield over time ability which helps me keep smashing. Think it's the Endorphin Rush. I tested my level 40 with some basic equipment found from asking the debugger for items and made myself into a half presentable opponent who had no problem dealing with normal Purple Gang or DEMON enemies as long as I kept the team size to one. This archetype is fun. You feel like Juggernaut

    8/10 Will play again.
  • nacito#6758 nacito
    nacito#6758
         Posts: 984 Arc User
    no plans on switching behe con PSS to STR?
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  • lunnylunnylunnylunny Posts: 187 Arc User
    I'd suggest adding another proper Single-Target damage to Behemoth. If a Behemoth picks up the Haymaker 5-point advantage, they're stuck without one.
  • zamuelpwezamuelpwe Posts: 668 Arc User
    Potential suggestion for the Wrecker AT default outfit. Had a few alternate concepts (like this without the hardhat) but posting this now:

    Costume-Zamuel-Now-Wrecker-CC-Comic-Page-Blue-618786661.jpgCostume-Zamuel-Now-Wrecker-CC-Comic-Page-Blue-618787344.jpg
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  • nacito#6758 nacito
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         Posts: 984 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    I'd call it "the demolisher"
    or "the crusher" "the wrestler" "the luchador" "the mighty"
    down here more suggestions made by other people:
    "The brute"
    "The brawler"
    "The fister"
    "The muscle"
    "The juggernaut"
    "The bully"
    "The unstoppable"
    "The prizefighter"
    "The Bruiser"
    "The slugger"
    "The feisty"
    Post edited by nacito#6758 on
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  • nyghtshroude#9048 nyghtshroude
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    naciiito wrote: »
    I'd call it "the demolisher"
    or "the crusher" "the wrestler" "the luchador" "the mighty"
    down here more suggestions made by other people:
    "The brute"
    "The brawler"
    "The fister"
    "The muscle"
    "The juggernaut"
    "The bully"
    "The unstoppable"
    "The prizefighter"
    "The Bruiser"
    "The slugger"

    Yeah The Bruiser or The Brute.
  • magpieuk2014magpieuk2014 Posts: 1,268 Arc User
    I like The Wrecker. Mainly because it makes me think of Wreck It Ralph, which is a good thing.

    I would swap some of the AO/AD powers around. The Behemoth probably needs access to Aggressor and Endorphin Rush, especially with Diminishing Returns being corrected and affecting its damage output. The Wrecker should choose between Indestructible and ER - melee DPS ATs tend to be a bit vulnerable when they face lots of targets and Indestructible's flat damage reduction would stop the player getting scraped to death.
  • kaiserin#0958 kaiserin
    kaiserin#0958
         Posts: 3,210 Cryptic Developer
    FC.31.20190810.5
  • spinnefuchsspinnefuchs Posts: 10 Arc User
    Behemoth at 40, Warcry or Demolish/Roomsweeper; whichever power isn't available at the lower level. Because it'd be really nice for my behemoths to at least have access to all the attacks they've been using for years on end, and also not have to get a power that doesn't thematically fit any of them.
  • nacito#6758 nacito
    nacito#6758
         Posts: 984 Arc User
    > @spinnefuchs said:
    > Behemoth at 40, Warcry or Demolish/Roomsweeper; whichever power isn't available at the lower level. Because it'd be really nice for my behemoths to at least have access to all the attacks they've been using for years on end, and also not have to get a power that doesn't thematically fit any of them.

    I support this, warcry should be a choice over something else
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  • ownzd4ownzd4 Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    I was wondering if any changes would happen to the Devastator Archetype? My Devastator used the Endorphin rush on Enrage as his heal which kept him alive. Also It would be nice to have the knock Energy Unlock for the Devastator. Maybe we could trade Brimstone for a heal. I've found myself never using Brimstone because the Devastator is literally all AoE damage and Brimstone just seems like another AoE attack.
  • criswolf09criswolf09 Posts: 759 Arc User
    Suggestion
    Give Brute Force to all Brick archetypes as an option for their level 25 power please.
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  • kallethenkallethen Posts: 1,576 Arc User
    ownzd4 wrote: »
    I was wondering if any changes would happen to the Devastator Archetype? My Devastator used the Endorphin rush on Enrage as his heal which kept him alive. Also It would be nice to have the knock Energy Unlock for the Devastator. Maybe we could trade Brimstone for a heal. I've found myself never using Brimstone because the Devastator is literally all AoE damage and Brimstone just seems like another AoE attack.

    Yeah, Devastator will be in a bad spot without Endorphin Rush. Perhaps make that a choice at level 35 similar to how it's a choice on the Behemoth new progression?​​
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  • redcastle56redcastle56 Posts: 136 Arc User
    Is Behemoth 11th choice going to remain as in PTS currenty (thunderclap or Demolish) or going to change to what is listed. (Thunderclap or Roomsweeper.)


  • kaiserin#0958 kaiserin
    kaiserin#0958
         Posts: 3,210 Cryptic Developer
    FC.31.20190810.19
  • alriialrii Posts: 63 Arc User
    Suggestion
    Please keep roomsweeper /somewhere/ in the early levels of the behemoth. it is what i use to sell CO to newbies: "you can punch a a bunch of mooks all the way to the horizon!" and it is a ridiculously satisfying power.


    And before vets point out the issues of knock backs in group content, by the time these newbies get serious / invested in the game, they usually switch to a different powerset (or at least realize to use such attacks more selectively).
  • wrathsoul1wrathsoul1 Posts: 681 Arc User
    Is Destructive a Form or a EU?
    Personal ideas thread: http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=276551
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,195 Arc User
    wrathsoul1 wrote: »
    Is Destructive a Form or a EU?

    It's Earth's Energy Unlock​​
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  • nyghtshroude#9048 nyghtshroude
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         Posts: 212 Arc User
    Will this new Archetype be available this week (on August 29th)?
  • rugrothrumborrugrothrumbor Posts: 534 Arc User
    naciiito wrote: »
    I'd call it "the demolisher"
    or "the crusher" "the wrestler" "the luchador" "the mighty"
    down here more suggestions made by other people:
    "The brute"
    "The brawler"
    "The fister"
    "The muscle"
    "The juggernaut"
    "The bully"
    "The unstoppable"
    "The prizefighter"
    "The Bruiser"
    "The slugger"
    "The feisty"

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  • spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    "The Might Guy"
    Squishy DPS builds that can solo QWZ w/videos.
    My super cool CC build and how to use it.
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