Help with a build...

lame22334

Ok...i am pretty decent with single type builds...but this one is giving me a headache. Im an old school CoH player...i had a kheldian i loved....a peacebringer with a dual human/dwarf build. Im trying to get something similar here...sadly i cant figure out how to get a blaster/tanky build. i like the repulsor beams look for blasting...now i have noted theres a similar power in other sets now...fire i think is one of em and id like to build that in somehow sadly im at a loss as to how

Can someone help me out here?

flowcyto

I can't say I really get the original source ref, but you mentioned Fire? We can give you a standard Fire build, if you want. Here's a hybrid-dps one if you want something easier to survive with:

https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=15730bPNWQaX000000200024052A009A032D002G03K5032M072N092O05ON012C01K6002Q000tH5438W2MGB200000000&e=

Super Stats
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
Level 6: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 9: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 12: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 18: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Throw Fire
Level 1: Fireball (Rank 2, Unstable Accelerant)
Level 6: Fiery Will
Level 8: Invulnerability (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Thermal Reverberation
Level 14: Conflagration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Incinerate (Rank 2, Rank 3, Burninator)
Level 23: Flashfire (Rank 2, Fan the Flames)
Level 26: Fire Snake (Rank 2, Trail Blazer)
Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 32: Fire Shield (Rank 2)
Level 35: Imbue
Level 38: Fiery Embrace
Adv. Points: 34/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

Fireball isn't strictly needed in the ideal rotation, but its fine for an opener AoE and an early attack. Main AoE here is Conflagration, and main single-target attack is Incinerate (ie. the one that has beams coming out of both hands). Use Flashfire and Firesnake on cd to help debuff and proc stuff, regardless. Gears mostly for Rec (for Fiery Will), w/ some Con and Ego.

lame22334

er....guess i didnt say that right...i wanted a punchy tanky kind of build with some ranged blasts throw in ....like a dual build. I wanted the firey repulsory blasts as well. Its gonna be hard but just wanna play my ol toon again

mordray001

Hey, Flowcyto.

The kheldian's of CoH were a strange class capable of actually shifting forms and in turn powers. I never really played one long enough to fully understand them. That said...

The human form of the peacebringer was a kind of healy blaster and the 'dwarf' form was a melee tank thingy... at least that's my memory of them.​​

superalfgorn

Ok so you need a dual role character:

Try the following build.
The specs are Warden to increase dps/survivability and Sentinel for the mastery (triggered by Heat Wave) and the healing.
PRE primary as an all-around stat that boosts the healing form and synergizes with Sentinel.

>The blaster/healer type comes from fire powers using a Hybrid role and the Hearth passive.
It deals damage applying clinging flames and the debuffs of heatwave and going to town with Incinerate.
It heals using the passive and the rune from Pyre, and later the Sentinel aura, Iniquity and the Mastery.

>The tanky melee form uses Invulnerability, Tank role, and Annihilate+Pyre for damage.

PROs: it seems like what you asked for, very versatile.
CONs: no EU, no Active offense, only one Active defense, not strong in any specific role.


kheldian Any / Multiple
v3.12:30

Super Stats
Level 6: Presence (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Hero (Str: 8, Dex: 8, Con: 8, Int: 8, Ego: 8, Pre: 8, Rec: 6, End: 6)
Level 6: Jack of All Trades (Str: 2, Dex: 2, Con: 2, Int: 2, Ego: 2, Pre: 2, Rec: 2, End: 2)
Level 9: Field Ops Training (Con: 3, Int: 3, Ego: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)
Level 12: Survival Training (Dex: 3, Con: 3, Pre: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)
Level 15: Command Training (Int: 3, Ego: 3, Pre: 3, Rec: 3)
Level 18: Sniper Training (Dex: 3, Ego: 3, Pre: 3, End: 3)
Level 21: Discipline Training (Str: 3, Int: 3, Pre: 3, End: 3)

Powers
Level 1: Throw Fire
Level 1: Fireball (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Hearth (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Pyre (Rank 2, Burning Sun)
Level 11: Compassion
Level 14: Heat Wave (Engulfing Flames, Feed the Flames)
Level 17: Incinerate (Rank 2, Rank 3, Burninator)
Level 20: Invulnerability (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Annihilate (Rank 2, Scorching Blade, Challenge!)
Level 26: Iniquity (Rank 2)
Level 29: Decimate
Level 32: Masterful Dodge
Level 35: Fiery Embrace
Level 38: Guard (Rank 2)
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Flight (Rank 2)
Level 35:

Specializations
Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
Presence: Grandeur (3/3)
Presence: Moment of Glory (1/3)
Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Tenacious (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Sentinel: Torment (2/2)
Sentinel: Caregiver (1/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Sentinel: Genesis (2/2)
Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

Devices

flowcyto

Well, there aren't any 'fiery repulsive blast' in CO's Fire, unless you meant Concussor Beam in Power Armor? But that's not Fire and wouldn't really work well in CO- since PA slotted attacks like that lockout all other power types when toggled on (ie. then you'd prob want to make it committed PA build). I think Incinerate in Fire is close enough visually, even if it doesn't have a repel effect (Repels can be annoying for the melee portion of the build anyways).

Here's a dual-passive build using a basic Fire dps set and a basic Might/HW melee set that's sturdier:

https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=12830iGQLPKa0630112000J1032D009A03B8002G03K5032N00HG05ON0128032M072C012Q000myr3SWh2MGB100000000&e=

Super Stats
Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Chiller (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Throw Fire
Level 1: Beatdown (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Thermal Reverberation
Level 8: Invulnerability (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Form of the Tempest
Level 14: Conflagration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Flashfire
Level 23: Brimstone (Rank 2, Aftershock)
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Fiery Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Incinerate (Rank 2, Rank 3, Burninator)
Level 35: Fire Shield (Rank 2)
Level 38: Fiery Embrace
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Flight (Rank 2)

Specializations
Dexterity: Combat Training (3/3)
Dexterity: Power Swell (2/2)
Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Slaughter (2/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

Starts off w/ the tankier melee set, using Invuln as the passive (and pref the Hybrid role). That set uses charged Brimstone for AoE, and Flashfire + Beatdown filler for single targets (can use Conflag as the AoE earlier on, if needed). The 2nd set is the ranged Fire dps one, using Fiery Form as the passive (and pref the Ranged dps role). That set uses Flashfire on cd, Conflag as the main AoE, and Incinerate for single targets. Gears mostly for Dex, w/ some Con and End/Rec (for energy).

The build lacks a lunge for the melee set, but a decent travel power can help w/ that.
(100Hands in Unarmed would have been nice w/ its CF adv, but I figured the anim wouldn't really fit visually)

CO doesn't really do shape-shifting in terms of powers, but changing costumes can accomplish that effect visually at least.