Hyper Voice build

hardxtarget

I've been toying around with a Hyper Voice build because I really love the concept. As I get farther in the game I'm noticing a drop in my DPS in story content (demon flame, resistance, etc...)and was hoping for some in put.

Powers
Level 1: Gunslinger
Level 1: Concentration
Level 6: Bullet Hail (Rank 2, Wall of Bullets)
Level 8: Killer Instinct
Level 11: Bionic Shielding (Rank 2)
Level 14: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Deafening Dissolution)
Level 17: Hyper Voice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Force Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3, Force Sheathe)
Level 23: Quantum Stabilizer (Rank 2, Rank 3)

I took Quantum over Electric form just to try out and not sold on it yet due to the lack of energy but gain to damage resistance. Killerr Instict + Bullet hail w Wall of Bullets help me stay alive for solo stuff and Bionic Shielding + Wall of Bullets shield help heal faster without having to take more damage than I can handle.

I'm building this as I go so thats why I'm stopping at 23 but I'm hoping with some help to be able to Retcon this guy when I hit level cap to where he's going to be for a while =D

hardxtarget

Also I'm trying out Int primary for Detect Vulnerability defense pen atm.

flowcyto

Like most ranged cone AoEs, Hyper Voice isn't going to be very high dps in of itself. Also, KI won't work with it, though something like Overdrive (or Wind Reverb) will. Quantum Stability is a fine passive for it, though its a bit more of a defensive approach. SMG is also a cone AoE, and if it weren't for the concept of usign HV I may just use that.

So, an HV-focused build won't do great dps overall, though maybe using something like Avenger Mastery can boost it a bit on single targets. Keep in mind that you have to get to max level to use any Mastery. Example build (that's ideally for max level):

https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=15830bNQXPWa000000910031037F00JB034600JI03K50337077D03ON01ER00K6008O017V030cks0nGQ3UbT500000000&e=

Super Stats
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Power Bolts
Level 1: Force Blast (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Unstoppable (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Wind Reverberation
Level 14: Hyper Voice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Force Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3, Force Sheathe)
Level 23: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Masterful Dodge
Level 32: Imbue
Level 35: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
Level 38: Implosion Engine (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Adv. Points: 33/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Avenger Mastery (1/1)

If/When Avenger Mastery procs, you can use it on a quick charge of the blast (I chose Force's cause it gains a knock-immune bonus on bosses or targets that have built up knock immunity). The last few powers can be w/e ya want, though I figured Implosion Engine would be a good ult here for the AoE vacuum and dmg. If energy is good enough, you could consider other SS setups that don't use an energy stat (like Rec or End) and instead take Dex SS for more crit (or maybe structure the build around Chilled Form and use DEX/End/Con w/ a Dex focus). This setup gears mostly for Ego, w/ some Con and End/Rec.

Ofc, you can also just take HV only for AoE, and use a good single-target attack for bosses, but its up to you if you want to play it like that.

hardxtarget

What would be a good single target for this build? Bullet hail and wall of bullets is really only for leveling atm because I started out with Quarry forgetting that sonic isn't physical damage =(

hardxtarget

Why unstoppable, since HV is range and no moves here are melee? Also I've noticed that a lot of builds choose Conviction R3 as a base line heal why is that since it feels energy heavy for the amount of healing received?

flowcyto

Unstoppable boosts all dmg- just not by as much as it boosts melee specifically, but also cause it gives you energy on knocks and some knock resist. HV and FBlast can knock, so you'd get some extra energy from using them.
Conviction gets better as you level, but starts off weak. If you want to use something like an AD instead early on, then go ahead.

An easy single-target attack to stick in would be something like R3 PBR (until Gadgeteering gets its revamp), but I dunno what is thematic for you here outside of using HV.

hardxtarget

I really want to try INT main with this for the def pen.

Theme wise here I'm wanting moon lighting lackey. Like the guy with one power that, yeah its a super power, but he cant go toe with anyone without being funded or supplied. So I picked up R3 PBR because that synergizes and fits the concepts (thanks for that) with Conviction R3.

When Unleashed Rage just because its the only Ultimate that synergizes. I'm not sure what my last 2 powers should be; thinking Mini Drive just for the hilarious idea of talking "down" to someone (dad joke).

Super Stats
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Specialist (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Int: 8, Rec: 10)
Level 6: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 15: Shooter (Dex: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 18: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 21: Academics (Int: 5, Ego: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Sonic Blaster
Level 1: Pulse Beam Rifle (Rank 2, Finite Improbability Engine)
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Quantum Stabilizer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Force Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3, Force Sheathe)
Level 14: Hyper Voice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Deafening Dissolution)
Level 20: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
Level 23: Masterful Dodge
Level 26: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 32:
Level 35: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38:
Adv. Points: 31/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Displacement Acrobatics
Level 35: Jet Pack

Specializations
Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

flowcyto

Eh, UR scales w/ Enraged! stacks, so it prob won't be too powerful if not using Enrage or AotB. I would prob also get R3 on PBR over the special adv for dps. Overdrive would still work w/ both main attacks here, unless you found more short-cd attacks you can stick in there for MSA (Sonic Device's is rather long atm). Maybe try Thunderstike? Its energy dmg, and has some utility advs. Ball Lightning could also add some dps, even if you don't need its Superconductor refresh adv here.

hardxtarget

I completely overlooked Overdrive good call. You were a great help thank you!

riverocean

meh...

Not to kill the OP's buzz, but I tried a Hypervoice build with all sonic powers way back when the power was first released. It's really disappointing. There's not as much synergy as you'd think there'd be. I re-call getting frustrated and giving up. I do recall hyper-voice did work well with Overdrive (which was a surprise).

But yeah, Hyper-Voice is one of those abilities I wish would get revamped to work well with other frameworks. It's stuck in might (where it has no synergies at all...).

Ok grumpy old man will stop being grumpy.

flowcyto

HV is an okay AoE for the reach it has.. its just that ranged cone AoEs tend to not have high dps overall, and its obv going to do poor single-target dps. Something like PBR can help w/ the latter, though.

Might still hasn't been fully revamped yet, so maybe more powers to complement stuff like HV and Power Chord will come in later.

riverocean

flowcyto wrote: »

HV is an okay AoE for the reach it has.. its just that ranged cone AoEs tend to not have high dps overall, and its obv going to do poor single-target dps. Something like PBR can help w/ the latter, though.

Might still hasn't been fully revamped yet, so maybe more powers to complement stuff like HV and Power Chord will come in later.

Hmm... that actually makes me want to try something with PBR + Hypervoice + Power Chord+ Overdrive + Quantam Stabilzer

What I'd really like is an actual Sonic Attack power set, similar to the one that existed in City of Heroes . But I realize an entirely new power-set like this, is probably just a pipe dream!

flowcyto

riverocean wrote: »

flowcyto wrote: »

HV is an okay AoE for the reach it has.. its just that ranged cone AoEs tend to not have high dps overall, and its obv going to do poor single-target dps. Something like PBR can help w/ the latter, though.

Might still hasn't been fully revamped yet, so maybe more powers to complement stuff like HV and Power Chord will come in later.

Hmm... that actually makes me want to try something with PBR + Hypervoice + Power Chord+ Overdrive + Quantam Stabilzer

What I'd really like is an actual Sonic Attack power set, similar to the one that existed in City of Heroes . But I realize an entirely new power-set like this, is probably just a pipe dream!

Yea, that could be cool; we'll just have to see what the devs have up their sleeves. As far as a similar build:

https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=15830bNQXPWa000000700074037F00A6039E00K503JI037D01ON0137057N058O01K600JP030ckr0nGQ438W500000000&e=

Super Stats
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Sonic Blaster
Level 1: Pulse Beam Rifle (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Quantum Stabilizer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Overdrive
Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Hyper Voice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Sonic Device (Rank 2)
Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 26: Force Shield (Rank 2, Force Sheathe)
Level 29: Toxic Nanites (Rank 2, Nerve Damage)
Level 32: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
Level 35: Imbue
Level 38: Power Chord (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Adv. Points: 33/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

Can get the special adv on Power Chord if you want to buff allies w/ it. The On-Next-Hit stuff can add some flair to using PBR and HV everywhere. Still wouldn't expect very strong dps from it, but it should perform admirably enough.

riverocean

I actually went ahead and retconned an old neglected 40 in the suggested build. Even though I'm not properly geared, it was actually quite playable and thematic!

flowcyto

nice; glad to hear its working out alright.

superalfgorn

Ahg this forum makes me mad...

This game pulls me back in from time to time... I was fiddling with the same idea, but wanted to make a Banshee homage, so screams only no weapons. I took several ideas from Flow (ty).

Typhoon would be perfect: I do not remember if it can emit from the head though or if it has the fixed (and cool) animation.

Did I overlook something? What role would it be best?


Banshee Any / Multiple
v3.11:30

Super Stats
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Rockstar (Str: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
Level 9: Paramilitary Training (Str: 3, Con: 3, Rec: 3, End: 3)
Level 12: Survival Training (Dex: 3, Con: 3, Pre: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)
Level 15: Field Ops Training (Con: 3, Int: 3, Ego: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)
Level 18: Jack of All Trades (Str: 2, Dex: 2, Con: 2, Int: 2, Ego: 2, Pre: 2, Rec: 2, End: 2)
Level 21: Martial Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Ego: 3, Rec: 3)

Powers
Level 1: Clobber
Level 1: Gust (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
Level 8: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Night Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Hyper Voice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Overdrive
Level 20: Typhoon (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Aggressor
Level 26: Masterful Dodge
Level 29: Retaliation
Level 32: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Deafening Dissolution)
Level 35: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38: Toxic Nanites (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35:

Specializations
Strength: Swole (3/3)
Strength: Aggression (2/2)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Anguish (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Initiative (1/2)
Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (1/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
Mastery: Avenger Mastery (1/1)

Devices

flowcyto

Typhoon is a bit costly to use heavily- but I guess it depends what you plan on using it for (could be a fine AoE alpha strike). Also, Typhoon has a specific anim, and its emanation options don't really change it, afaik. You could also try Wind Reverb as the EU if keeping HVoice and Typhoon.

A cheap and decent single target-attack that goes w/ a ranged Enrage/knock build would be Force Blast, though (Gust repels instead of knocks innately), and you can make it emanate from the Head too. Would also get 2/3 in Focused Strikes if using a blast and Avenger Mastery.

superalfgorn

Ah no change in emanation point, too bad, I thought it was so.... then force blast is better since the wind graphics are out.

Ty!

magpieuk2014

(cough) I'm working on one of these at the moment. Wind Breath is a great "musical"/sonic power - use that and Stormbringer to level, add Sonic Device and then flavour to suit.

Personally I would rather they made a C & P of Wind Breath for a Sonic Levelling power and turned Hyper Voice into a Sonic Scream - Tier III single target Damage and Disorient.

flowcyto

Yea, Wind Breath is similar enough to HV to replace it, if you like. It is true that Sonic dmg is lacking in single-target dps atm, so if I had to add only one more Sonic attack it'd prob be a strong ST one. No need to lose HV to get that, though.