Fixing end and rec PSS trees

ryokoryu

Ok so I have been thinking a lot about the different things we can use as primary and secondarysuperstats and ways to tweak this or that bit of performance out of them. The truth is that most stats have a viable end game reason for picking them. Con, Dex, Str, and Ego all have their obvious roles and int and presence even have their niches. Endurance and recovery however just seem sub-par. There doesn't really seem to be any other reason but theme to pick either of these which with the changes to electricity comming makes me wonder. If what is in PTS is accurate then endurance is gonna scale the new electical form and it seems we will be stuck with doing a song and dance here that will look like this. PSS int, dec, pres, or ego then stack end. There is no advantage in the ego tree to make it competetive. I like the idea they are going for here and the outside the box thinking with end stacking for DPS but think there needs to be a pass for the end tree. but there should be more ideas than us just saying it needs work. While we do end we should also think of rec. End already has something I like in it's tree. The bonus HP makes sense so what about some defensive options.
My start would go along these lines.
End Tree
-Cut quick recovery
-Cut kickback
-cut outburst
-redesign withstand, increase all resist based on crit severity while blocking.
-in place of kickback new passive reduce the energy costs of maintains based on SSS 2 ranks
-in place of quick recovery new ability taking damage while blocking grants stacks of stoicism, stacks up to 3 times gives cost discount and -cooldown reduction of the next offensive ability used. 2 ranks
-increase the rank count of hardened to 3
-new 2 rank ability reduce damage from aoe attacks
-new 3 rank ability endurance increases crit severity.
Recovery tree
-Cut Withstand (your not ennduring things your recovering
-redesign rapid recovery when taking damage gain buff that heals 1/2/3% of your health over 3 seconds stacks twice re-name walk it off
-redesign staying power secondary superstats increase maximum energy
-New ability to replace withstand increase crit chance every time you gain energy from a non-energy builder ability of yours 1/2% stacks up to 5 times stacks last 10 seconds.
-Cut supercharged
-redesign efficient active offense and defense last 2/4/6% longer reduce GCD on said abilities by 3/6/9 seconds
-re-design well rounded now instead gives +3/6 to all non-superstats
-re-design second wind critical hits now reduce the remaining cooldown on all abilities cooling down by by 1/2 seconds can only occur once every 6 seconds.
-New ability reduce the penalty of travel powers on power costs 33/66/100%


Put up your own ideas on how to fix these and let's get this discussion going.

jaazaniah1

I doubt we'll see any work on spec trees until work is completed on reworking powers, probably in a year and a half. After all, they haven't done anything with them yet.

ryokoryu

gradii said:

Uh you didn't add anything for damage to the END tree and took away it's only damage advantage? don't remove outburst, FIX outburst to be a REAL 15% damage increase at rank 3.​​

really so increasing crit severity is not a damage increase?

superalfgorn

From the PTS patch notes:

"Changed the Outburst spec in Endurance to buff base damage."

ryokoryu

superalfgorn said:

From the PTS patch notes:

"Changed the Outburst spec in Endurance to buff base damage."

That is a start, the tree overall will still be sub-par to others. We still need ideas to take to devs instead of just complain that the stuff sux make better argument.

rtma

It's obvious that Endurance and recovery aren't great cause it revolves around utility specs, Since those super stats are about focusing on Energy management, not Damage or Durability.

ryokoryu

so does int but it increases damage in it's way. instead of thinking of end and rec as utility stats think more in terms of as a primary stat it should give other benefits besides energy management. Hell strength is a damage stat that gives you health, completely out of character for that stat as a normal stat or SSS. Recovery as a concept easily lends itself to hitting faster or getting out of holds quicker or many other things besides energy management and endurance conceptually lends itself easily towards a defensive role or biding your time til you get that chance to hit back bigger harder and oh so heavy.

magpieuk2014

I've never quite understood the role of REC and END in this game. Surely - thinking about how it works in the comics, anyway; REC should be about rapid energy regeneration and personal healing, END should be about the amount of energy available (making the player almost self-sufficient in the generation of it and giving access to high-energy charged powers), while PRE should be about stealth, holds and healing of others?

roughbearmattach

My electric toon was already End-based, to spam Gigabolt. Now, this toon got a small but nice buff with the Endurance change.